David Grusch Lies to Members of Congress and States Steven Greer is Russian Agent

[greymagick]

By the way, Above Top Secret and other conspiracy forums have been notoriously populated by disinformation trolls working for the NSA, that have many axes to grind with Greer.  So it doesn't surprise me that there will continue to be "people" posting apparent disdain towards Greer and his work.

[Sirius]

He loses me with his CE5, for someone with high ambitions he calls the lowest forms

[greymagick]

So basically what's going on in Washington D.C. right now, for those that are not familiar, is that there are congressional hearings taking place on the UFO/UAP subject, with whistleblowers testifying to their personal knowledge on UAP encounters, technologies etc.  And since Dr. Steven Greer is actually the "father" of the modern UFO disclosure movement, since the early 1990s, he has amassed a huge network and archive of whistleblowers and information.  He even has most of that archived online: https://www.dpiarchive.com/

What has been happening is that CIA disinfo agents like David Grusch and Luis Elizondo have wormed their way into this situation, and have actively been lying to members of Congress, AARO and the Pentagon, and stating that Greer is a "Russian agent", to prevent Congress et al. from pursuing Greer's whistleblowers.  That fundamentally is what is happening and the original point of this thread.  Not about Greer's reputation on calling down aliens with his mind.  That's something else entirely!

[FULCRUM331]

All of the "whistleblowers" are phonies and frauds lying to the American People as a distraction. There will never be disclosure, and the truth is only what anyone can make of it.

I do not believe a word the UFO industrial complex has to say as a great many have ties to Naval Intelligence. If you believe a word a government employee says, you have to an absolute fool.

Not one shred of real proof has ever come to the surface and not one shred of believable video has come out. I used to believe in this phenomena to where I dedicated decades of my life only to watch frauds reveal themselves and watch fraud perpetrated against the American People. 

Recently I began watching "Resident Alien" and in that series they mainstream ufos and alien abduction to where it is treated both seriously and as comedy sending a mixed message. The worst part is that it likely has more truth in it than watching Luis Elizondo lie to the American People about his involvement in UFOs.

The only real way to convince me any of this is real, is to get abducted, get some souvenirs, maybe a real recording and keep my memories. 

For the last 30 years I have watched the same people write book after book with nothing in the way of proof. With all the TV shows, and the cash that all this generates no wonder they continue to defraud us.

[quintessentone]

There is a new documentary out, as of a few weeks ago (Asymmetric Disclosure), about the UAP Congressional Hearings in the United States, from the point of view of UFO Disclosure movement pioneer, Dr. Steven Greer.  This is available on Amazon and elsewhere, for free probably in those areas....

But a new podcast with Greer and director of 'Asymmetric Disclosure' was just posted on YouTube last week, where Greer reveals that popular UFOlogists connected to the Congressional Hearings in Washington D.C., have been telling key members of Congress that Greer is a "Russian espionage agent".  Later on in the podcast, if you are paying careful enough attention, Greer states that one of the main people connected to this that said this specifically was, none other than David Grusch.  Only those paying attention to American UFOlogy will be aware of these people, particularly Grusch.

https://youtu.be/IWtHyvbTZiA?si=JPZZe3qtU3SsXIts&t=1507

What Greer also says, is that lying to Members of Congress, in such a way as saying an innocent American civilian is a Russian espionage agent, is a felony, and he has brought Grusch et al., and this information, to the FBI for criminal investigation.

This is what Greer's core message is:

"Greer insists this is not the work of a rogue U.S. agency, but a coordinated, global criminal enterprise. These actors allegedly carry out psychological operations, stage false-flag events, and manipulate military responses to fictitious threats—all to maintain secrecy and control over transformative technologies, including anti-gravity propulsion and zero-point energy. 
He warns that the continued suppression of such breakthroughs—motivated by trillions in vested oil and aerospace interests—has not only delayed human progress but also endangered the planet’s future."

Bombshell Announcement from Dr. Greer - Dr. Steven Greer

I absolutely believe what he says in the above comments from him.

[Sirius]

So basically what's going on in Washington D.C. right now, for those that are not familiar, is that there are congressional hearings taking place on the UFO/UAP subject, with whistleblowers testifying to their personal knowledge on UAP encounters, technologies etc.  And since Dr. Steven Greer is actually the "father" of the modern UFO disclosure movement, since the early 1990s, he has amassed a huge network and archive of whistleblowers and information.  He even has most of that archived online: https://www.dpiarchive.com/

What has been happening is that CIA disinfo agents like David Grusch and Luis Elizondo have wormed their way into this situation, and have actively been lying to members of Congress, AARO and the Pentagon, and stating that Greer is a "Russian agent", to prevent Congress et al. from pursuing Greer's whistleblowers.  That fundamentally is what is happening and the original point of this thread.  Not about Greer's reputation on calling down aliens with his mind.  That's something else entirely!

On the surface it makes sense but also distractions and nonsense.

I know! Let me dig into the CIA and other black and defense projects...oh wait why am I in the afterlife?

These things are pointless to chase unless you want to watch drama, the phenomena is still out there and that you can chase

The government will do what it always does... bureaucracy and circus

There are no borders with orbital mechanics, to the victor the spoils, as a civilian your just fucked weather it be aliens or nations

There will be no progress in space until there is peace on earth, why would any nation allow another to take a lead in this?

[greymagick]

This is what Greer's core message is:

"Greer insists this is not the work of a rogue U.S. agency, but a coordinated, global criminal enterprise. These actors allegedly carry out psychological operations, stage false-flag events, and manipulate military responses to fictitious threats—all to maintain secrecy and control over transformative technologies, including anti-gravity propulsion and zero-point energy. 
He warns that the continued suppression of such breakthroughs—motivated by trillions in vested oil and aerospace interests—has not only delayed human progress but also endangered the planet’s future."

Bombshell Announcement from Dr. Greer - Dr. Steven Greer

I absolutely believe what he says in the above comments from him.

Yes!  That's exactly the overall message, thanks for posting that.  That's the best and most succinct paragraph in regards to The Disclosure Project's mission I have read online.  I missed that on Greer's site when the recent YouTube podcast was posted.  But it's definitely refreshing to know there are people out there that really get this information!  I think it's important and worthwhile, but there is a lot of power that can push back against The Disclosure Project's work, and I can see the dilemma Greer et al. are in now, but if this newest situation goes to the FBI and court, it could really break the whole conspiracy wide open...

[Steamer]

Me thinks that average Joe Public , are supposed to read and forget. Well we do not forget, . Who recalls how a few years back — during TRUMP —- indictment, it was M15 / M16, agents who were blamed every time. Now it is RUSIA. Whilst in the silent background Oligarchs are using stacks of obedient ‘serfs’ to create NWO. 
      Ze mystery deepens………….says 007 and five eights.

[UltraBudgie]

Me thinks that average Joe Public , are supposed to read and forget. Well we do not forget, . Who recalls how a few years back — during TRUMP —- indictment, it was M15 / M16, agents who were blamed every time. Now it is RUSIA. Whilst in the silent background Oligarchs are using stacks of obedient ‘serfs’ to create NWO. 
      Ze mystery deepens………….says 007 and five eights.

i wonder if it all comes out of research from the woodstock institute. how to bombard people into effectively forgetting, if not actually forgetting.

[greymagick]

i wonder if it all comes out of research from the woodstock institute. how to bombard people into effectively forgetting, if not actually forgetting.

People would be blown away to learn how far technologically PsyOps/psychological warfare has come in the 21st Century, and who exactly is involved in doing it.  It's definitely actively deployed on the internet, and the level of intrusion via surveillance goes beyond just monitoring people's phone cameras and mics etc.  And "they" are also the ones involved in orchestrating things like Q-Anon and Pizzagate, and all sorts of phony UFO stories, going back decades now.  The trolls can also make up anything online that they wish, so long as it distorts the original information they are posting about...