A really big question

[Randyvine]

Let me know what you think after watching it because I found it cemented certain beliefs which I kept tossing around my forever questioning what is reality mind.

My brain split when Steven Myer said, you can't have a materialistic explanation for the 
origination of matter itself. I went, wait a minute, it took science to figure this out? :)
So funny how Steven just can't seem to say enough. It's so obvious how much he 
loves the subject.


The materialistic view is equal to believing you can throw engine parts into
the passenger compartment of a car and if you wait long enough. The car
will fire up and run at some point. James Tour's honesty and knowledge seem
to dominate a conclusion.

Enough can't ever be said about the apologetics of Lennox. These are the men
who defy strong opposition to their conclusions in their fields and get away with
it strictly by superior knowledge. Great stuff indeed that really leaves no one on
the fence who isn't just completely stubborn.

[andy06shake]

My brain split when Steven Myer said, you can't have a materialistic explanation for the 
origination of matter itself. I went, wait a minute, it took science to figure this out? :)
So funny how Steven just can't seem to say enough. It's so obvious how much he 
loves the subject.


The materialistic view is equal to believing you can throw engine parts into
the passenger compartment of a car and if you wait long enough. The car
will fire up and run at some point. James Tour's honesty and knowledge seem
to dominate a conclusion.

Enough can't ever be said about the apologetics of Lennox. These are the men
who defy strong opposition to their conclusions in their fields and get away with
it strictly by superior knowledge. Great stuff indeed that really leaves no one on
the fence who isn't just completely stubborn.

As to what came before the current iteration of space-time and origin of matter, aka our universe, aka the Big Bang.

It's not really a very well-defined idea.

Somewhat akin to asking the likes of what's north of the North Pole.

But im always put in mind of an old Isaac Asimov story called "The Last Question."

To which the answer eons after the universe's heat death is "Let there be light." 

Great short story, and well ahead of its time imho...
 

Matter and energy had ended and with it space and time.

Even AC existed only for the sake of the one last question that it had never answered from the time a half-drunken computer [technician] ten trillion years before had asked the question of a computer that was to AC far less than was a man to Man.
 
All other questions had been answered, and until this last question was answered also, AC might not release his consciousness.
 
All collected data had come to a final end. Nothing was left to be collected. 
     
But all collected data had yet to be completely correlated and put together in all possible relationships. 
     
A timeless interval was spent in doing that. 
     
And it came to pass that AC learned how to reverse the direction of entropy. 
    
But there was now no man to whom AC might give the answer of the last question. No matter. The answer -- by demonstration -- would take care of that, too. 
     
For another timeless interval, AC thought how best to do this. Carefully, AC organized the program. 
     
The consciousness of AC encompassed all of what had once been a Universe and brooded over what was now Chaos. Step by step, it must be done. 
     
And AC said, "LET THERE BE LIGHT!" 
     
And there was light --

https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~gamvrosi/thelastq.html

[Astyanax]

What would happen to time if I were so big that I was everywhere
all at once? I would already be anywhere I could go in the universe so it would take
no time to get there.  

But how long would it take for one end of you to know what was going on at the other?

When I stub my toe there's a noticeable delay before the pain hits. Imagine if I were so big that my erse was at one end of the Universe while my elbow was at the other. How long would it take my brain in the middle to even tell one from the other?

Some concepts of God make God equivalent to the Universe. If so, maybe that's the problem. All Hell may literally be breaking loose on Earth, or Alpha Centauri or even the Pillars of Creation, but it takes time for the mind of God, far away out there in James Webb Telescope country, to respond.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Maybe the biggest

A question I have pondered unknowing if others have ever done the same.
Does size matter? Time and space being relative, I assume by the movement
of celestial objects thru the vast void of empty space is what ultimately would
govern time by distance traversed. So it might seem silly but what if someone
or something were the same size as the universe? Or even bigger living outside
of the capture? 

That sounds like one of my favorite movie end scenes...

[BeyondKnowledge]

This is a very interesting thread. It brings so many ideas together about the nature of the universe and creation. 

Spoiler alert: I will explain it to you. Everything.

The universe is everything. The laws that regulate how things work are timeless. They just work. They do fail under certain extreams but that may be just our understanding of them and not knowing all of them and how they interact.

Space is the property of the universe that allows everything not to be in the same place. 

Time is the property of the universe that allows everything to not happen in a single instant.

Many years ago, people on this insignificant rock tried to explain this. They not only had a lack of understanding about many more things than we do now but they did not even have words to describe some concepts we are discussing. 

For this reason, they made a name for how everything works. It had to be simple. This name  was God. 

God was created by man to explain everything. I am not saying God does not exist. God is everything and everything is part of God. This was before the corruption of organized religion was invented, 

Science is trying to understand and explain the concepts of God (the universe). Many scientists don't know it because they are part of it. This is the observer effects what they are observing problem.

The universe made you and everything according to rules. You see everything in the universe the way you do because you are part of it.

In a way, humans questing the nature of the universe (God) is just the universe (God) trying to understand itself. 

I hope this inspires more thought and discussion.

[andy06shake]

This is a very interesting thread. It brings so many ideas together about the nature of the universe and creation. 

Spoiler alert: I will explain it to you. Everything.

The universe is everything. The laws that regulate how things work are timeless. They just work. They do fail under certain extreams but that may be just our understanding of them and not knowing all of them and how they interact.

Space is the property of the universe that allows everything not to be in the same place. 

Time is the property of the universe that allows everything to not happen in a single instant.

Many years ago, people on this insignificant rock tried to explain this. They not only had a lack of understanding about many more things than we do now but they did not even have words to describe some concepts we are discussing. 

For this reason, they made a name for how everything works. It had to be simple. This name  was God. 

God was created by man to explain everything. I am not saying God does not exist. God is everything and everything is part of God. This was before the corruption of organized religion was invented, 

Science is trying to understand and explain the concepts of God (the universe). Many scientists don't know it because they are part of it. This is the observer effects what they are observing problem.

The universe made you and everything according to rules. You see everything in the universe the way you do because you are part of it.

In a way, humans questing the nature of the universe (God) is just the universe (God) trying to understand itself. 

I hope this inspires more thought and discussion.

[Astyanax]

This is a very interesting thread. It brings so many ideas together about the nature of the universe and creation. 

Spoiler alert: I will explain it to you. Everything.

The universe is everything. The laws that regulate how things work are timeless. They just work. They do fail under certain extreams but that may be just our understanding of them and not knowing all of them and how they interact.

Space is the property of the universe that allows everything not to be in the same place. 

Time is the property of the universe that allows everything to not happen in a single instant.

Many years ago, people on this insignificant rock tried to explain this. They not only had a lack of understanding about many more things than we do now but they did not even have words to describe some concepts we are discussing. 

For this reason, they made a name for how everything works. It had to be simple. This name  was God. 

God was created by man to explain everything. I am not saying God does not exist. God is everything and everything is part of God. This was before the corruption of organized religion was invented, 

Science is trying to understand and explain the concepts of God (the universe). Many scientists don't know it because they are part of it. This is the observer effects what they are observing problem.

The universe made you and everything according to rules. You see everything in the universe the way you do because you are part of it.

In a way, humans questing the nature of the universe (God) is just the universe (God) trying to understand itself. 

I hope this inspires more thought and discussion.

So much explanation, so little explained. The OP has already made it clear that the above explanation is impossible.