Mass shooting at south Minneapolis church

[ANNEE]

How do you know he was shown the fanticy side of the religious upbringing. Perhaps his parents were open to this transgenderism but forced their religion on him. There is the name change that shows their support. Where is any evidence that he bought into the religious stuff and was not just going along to not cause more problems with his parents?

In that situation, he would probably have been bullied several ways by the school children when going there. Not firing in by gender choice or beliefs. It could have been pent up rage from that bullying causing him to snap. 

Then again, it could have been anything in the state he was in as shown by the evidence so far.

Have you read the letters praising his family with love?

He seems to have lived in an isolated protective cocoon. 

Does he mention anything or anyone — like a friend — outside his family?

A loner whose life seems to be online. 

Just my observation from early information. 

There could be much more coming.

And gender variances in school these days is not unusual. The kids don’t care. They protect their friends.

[Sky727]

YouTube https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3C3h7Uduf...ture=share

[UltraBudgie]

So there you go...

Case closed..

Haha I knew the O9A mention would be catnip and you'd pop up, even as I was posting it. But just to mention: that profile link hasn't as far as I know been hard-verified -- note that the guns the pic don't really look like the other gun photos, right? Don't think you're too far off though. But I'm not jumping immediately to conclusions.

Thanks, your notes at first glance seems spot on.... except:

Hatred of Mother (why is that not surprising?)

From journal:

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08.23.25
Life in turmoil. Koyaanisqatsi yesterday. I watched that movie because I felt I needed to see it before I die. I had seen some of it when I was very little. It was very contemplative and impactful to watch it now with my current mindset. I recommend you should watch it. Humanity is the pestilence. The plague. Humanity is overrated. I am the filth of my species. I am the decay. I will contribute to the collapse of society. I will fulfill my mission. I have only four days left. TO cry, to waste, to fall apart, to break, and then die. Give me peace, please, I will be dirt and food for flies. I will not be alone, tho. I will take many with me. Take this, all of you, and eat of it. For this is my body, which will be given up for many. It has been a long time since the last mass shooting, and in America that means a few days lmao. There was a hoax the other day that really got my hopes up. It was also at an orientation mass which is really similar to my plans haha. I hope I get to see one more before I die. Keeping my fingers crossed. I love my brothers and sisters. I am so sorry for doing this to them. I wish I wasn't in this amazing, respectable family. Please don't bother them. Leave them alone and let them move on with their lives. They had no knowledge of and nothing to do with my plans. I am glad they all have loving partners. I hope this doesn't break any of their love of relationships. I don't know what else to do today. Maybe I should go see my papa. Fuck! He is out of town too. All my fucking family is out of

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town. I need to be around someone that isn't Phil! And again, it's me who has to fucking reach out to be with people. Nobody ever hits me up on to hang. Nobody ever wants to hang out with me. I am a worthless loser. I texted my old boss Andrew and at least he is down to hang out on Tuesday. Hehehe. I just bought another gun just for fun. Just to make me feel something. I bought a five-shot .38 special revolver an INA Tiger. It was $200 and looked pretty. I think I will keep it in my car or backpack in case I need to kill myself when I don't expect it. I don't think that it will ever be fired by me. I just wanted to blow my money before I die. It sure is a beautiful piece. Also .38 special is huge! I think I should try illegally having a gun on me in public, just to have that feeling. I don't want to have that feeling on the day be such a shock! I am still going to be fucking terrified but i can do this. I will do this. I also wanted a second handgun in case I got pulled over or otherwise confronted in my car on the day. I was worried I wouldn't be able to access any of my guns while seated in the van. I will probably have the revolver in my lap and toss it under the seat or overhead before I go in case anyone goes to the car and use it against me. Fuck me I am going to die. Die. Permanent death. Forever. Forfeiture of life! Throw away the gift. Pass away. I am tired of pain. The good times of life are good but not that good. The bad sides are eternal pain.

Note: "I love my brothers and sisters. I am so sorry for doing this to them. I wish I wasn't in this amazing, respectable family. Please don't bother them. Leave them alone and let them move on with their lives. They had no knowledge of and nothing to do with my plans. I am glad they all have loving partners. I hope this doesn't break any of their love of relationships."

So no on the broken family flag you're waving there, and the assumption of mommy issues... may need to clean the wiper blades on that one.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Ok, it seems a good relationship to his family members. Then why did none of them notice the growing problem?

[UltraBudgie]

[Owlwatcher]

We'll never see the manifesto, never see his online social media contacts, or learn what psych meds he was on. Only the guns he had and used. 
    I suggested that trans shooters may be groomed for violence like other radical groups. Reddit said that was hate speech and banned me.

[TheGoondockSaint]

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

There is an agenda to confuse American males and to destroy masculinity.

The agenda here might be to point that /\ out with a "Poster Child For Teenage Gender Transitioning."

I dont like it. I like trashing the expectation for how gender is suppose to behave too much. And all non-violent instance of transgressing that. 

But this tragedy is a perfect horse to ride THAT agenda too. Of course after the obligatory signaling of outrage and condelence. Then the important politicizing can begin.

The gender transitioning equals induced mental disorder angle is strong here.

Like, "This is what happens when you let woke values destroy traditional masculinity and what a male and female and so on and etc."

Honestly, the ones I've met, or are acquaintance to are really balanced. Rational. Just being themselves and happy.

I think examples shouldn't be made in the name of agenda. But I support woke things, and woke things always use these instances for gun control mantras. Which I dont have much of an opinion on, but is also brought up every mass shooting. 

So this tragedy has dual use. A battle of agenda and angles after the moents of silence and virtue signaling mourning period.

That's definitely going to be a bigger talking point from this.

So... so we dont sew the seeds of a broader LGBT crackdown, couldn't we compromise on "This is neither representative of transsexuals or gun owners," and leave it there?

Maybe do another satanic panic instead? Those are always fun. 

While I can't deny this one was mindfucked by several extra demon heads, maybe Freud missed the inversion where they that want to kill their mother and marry their father as a woman?

To this one, now forever in The Occult Hall of Shame, I'm trying to think what kind of spiteful rage and hatred makes your self-immolation target your mother's school. Did she oppose the transition? Still call her a boy? Something something Christ? Gotta be a reason beyond just a target. 

Because It's almost like she (dead naming is lame) wanted to leave THAT epitaph for and to append to her mother. And make her last act making sure everyone knew her mom's transgender daughter shot up her school before taking their own life.

What I also want to know is what the rest of the manifesto says? Yeah there's crazy drawings. What's the writing about?

It feels like there'd be a lot of stuff about religious people being after them and following them. People trying to convert them. Or judge them religiously. And at least one mention of gaslighting.

Perhaps transitioning is way more irrelevant to underlying issues, and they would have snapped regardless of what hormone they had more of? I think dark gods might be the bigger problem.

Lost or not, you generally don't identify as O9A without having underlying suburban white boy issues or using it for ulterior motives. 

Because the real girls tend to get it. Or see it differently. A lot of the writing of the past 15 years is by women.  Its like a challenge to write the most pedantic bullshit and see how many faux-sinister wanna be badasses they can get to parrot the laziest pablum they can pull out their ass. 

Thusly, I can surmise its been a parody of itself for at least 15 years, but not without it's uses as it were.

[AnAlternateOpinion]

Obviously, this is a horrible tragedy and my thoughts go out to those affected.

My specific point was to point out the ATS typical demonization, scapegoating and classification of an already marginalized entire minority as mentally ill due to the actions of one or two is pretty lame and to infer that violence is an inherent part of the trans condition because they’re all “mentally ill” or have been groomed or indoctrinated, while conducive to a polarized, politicized and partisan discussion, simply doesn’t fit the facts.

I had hoped things would be better here but should have known better.

Using that same logic, that trans people are bad, all politicians, priests, pastors, teachers, camp counselors, scout leaders, etc. are bad actors or pedophiles because a few are or have been. Can people not see the fallacy of this conclusion?

I’m not making apology or excuses for what this person did. Did being trans have something to do with it? Maybe but maybe the current political climate and constant attacks against their community and the resultant sense of hopelessness, fear and uncertainty many of them are dealing with may also hold part of the blame for pushing this person over the edge?

It’s just a thought.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Haha I knew the O9A mention would be catnip and you'd pop up, even as I was posting it. But just to mention: that profile link hasn't as far as I know been hard-verified -- note that the guns the pic don't really look like the other gun photos, right? Don't think you're too far off though. But I'm not jumping immediately to conclusions.

Thanks, your notes at first glance seems spot on.... except:


From journal:

Note: "I love my brothers and sisters. I am so sorry for doing this to them. I wish I wasn't in this amazing, respectable family. Please don't bother them. Leave them alone and let them move on with their lives. They had no knowledge of and nothing to do with my plans. I am glad they all have loving partners. I hope this doesn't break any of their love of relationships."

So no on the broken family flag you're waving there, and the assumption of mommy issues... may need to clean the wiper blades on that one.

I learn more when i jump to immediate conclusions.  

I'm standing by mommy issues statement. 

Why choose your mother's school and carve Lanza into a gun? That's at least unacknowledged mommy issues.  At least unintentionally passive aggressive. 

Maybe legit split personalities, and the one that chose the mom's school to target is different than the one crying in a diary with their self-hatred but noticeable family respect. 

Seems like this person can't be honest even in their own damn diary. 

But I know more what it says now.... I'm usually between 30% and 70% right.  I think this range will hold. Especially the "mindfucked by occult writings" part. 

She musta had some pretty mean dark gods. The dark gods of perpetual self-abuse. 

And my wipers fucked my windshield long a ago, but it's like 900 dollars to replace because they have to recalibrate for the car of the future shit now.