Mass shooting at south Minneapolis church

[Unknownparadox]

1. There have been far more right-wingers in the US with violent psychological issues than there have been gender fluid people with violent psychological issues.

2. There have been far more right-wing mass-murders in the US than there have been left-wing related mass-murders.

Perhaps, in light of those facts, applying a 'political opinion' as criteria for determination of mental illness symptomology, is itself somewhat delusional. It certainly is not going to be helpful in resolving issues.

1. Considering there is far fewer gender fluid people and they have been around a lot less time than republicans. I can't say I am impressed.

And where are you getting these facts?

[Oldcarpy2]

You can't compare gays to trans. Gays are gay, they know what sex they are, they just prefer the same sex. While trans, think they are the opposite sex. Which is usually pretty obvious they are not. And for some odd reason that isn't considered a mental health problem. It's a body problem.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022...tal-health

I wasn't comparing them.  I just asked a simple question?

[Unknownparadox]

I wasn't comparing them.  I just asked a simple question?

Well you kinda did compared them. You wanted know if the people thought the trans were mentally ill just like they use to think gays were mentally ill.

I have never thought gays were mentally ill. The trans on the other hand do seem to have mental problems. But not according to main stream medicine.

[ANNEE]

You can't compare gays to trans. Gays are gay, they know what sex they are, they just prefer the same sex. While trans, think they are the opposite sex. Which is usually pretty obvious they are not. And for some odd reason that isn't considered a mental health problem. It's a body problem.

Why not?

As said before -- science does not know why some people are born attracted to same sex/gender.

However, it is pretty much accepted now that they were created that way.

To draw a line claiming can't be same for transgenders seems a bit of an "uncomfortable" choice to me.

I'm in the "world of neurodiversity" -- I can tell you it is a world onto it's own.  Almost like a different species.

[putnam6]

Almost different species?

with the same DNA and chromosomes, with the same environmental stressors as the other 99% but with one difference

gender dysphoria

[ANNEE]

A different species?

Seems like it sometimes.

Perhaps an evolution of human species would be more accurate.

Anyway, it's nothing you can understand from the outside looking in,

[BeyondKnowledge]

Well you kinda did compared them. You wanted know if the people thought the trans were mentally ill just like they use to think gays were mentally ill.

I have never thought gays were mentally ill. The trans on the other hand do seem to have mental problems. But not according to main stream medicine.

I think those. two groups fall into what most people consider alternate lifestyles. While they are somewhat related to each other and overlapping in places, they are different for the most part. They do tend to associate in those letter organizations I can't keep up with. They keep adding more letters.

I only think they were brought up together because the frenge of both tend to have some problems. The frenge of all groups tend to have problems because they are the extreamists of whatever cause they try to represent and they are usually the loudest.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Seems like it sometimes.

Perhaps an evolution of human species would be more accurate.

Anyway, it's nothing you can understand from the outside looking in,

I have been to many multi fandom conventions with all sorts. Some of them can't understand each other even though they are inside.

[putnam6]

Seems like it sometimes.

Perhaps an evolution of human species would be more accurate.

Anyway, it's nothing you can understand from the outside looking in,

Respectfully, Annie, I still have questions and if you can't answer then fine, but point me to where anybody else in the world thinks this is humanity evolving...

... careers and livelihoods are built on explaining it, 

Just because it's difficult, doesn't mean the other 99% can't or won't understand 

 It's unexplainable to the other 99% so we say OK and proceed with life as the 1% dictates

So now it's not a new species, it's natural human evolution?

So, after over 100,000 years as 2 genders, why are we evolving to one, from what exactly?

Evolving is usual, environmentally based, isn't it?

Why is the 1% environmentally evolving...and the 99% that can procreate are not?  

Wouldn't humanity eventually peter out if we all were like the 1%....

 Half of them have to cut off their peni and the other have to cut off their mammary glands...to do what?

I'd say one side has branched off and is just endlessly pruning its own branch, which is fine...but it isn't sustainable

To evolve, one has to procreate at numbers that support the evolution...

[UltraBudgie]

eventually peter out

pruning its own branch

Hmm