MAGA's Conscious Hierarchical Redirect Of Normalized Integrated Conspiracy

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

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There is a conundrum not getting enough consideration with regard to the lost appeal of conspiracy. Particularly here with the obvious preference for mud-thowing politics owning people's head space.

If fact, its so ingrained, this thread does NOTHNG to separate itself from its occurance.  

Right wing commies and leftist nazis will continue to point their fingers, but question will remain...

HOW DID IT ALL GET THIS WAY THIS TIME? 

The answer seems easy.

The Trump Effect. 

The most popular conspiracies were normalized into politics when they were validated by the ultimate government cosigner.

Cherry-picked were only the most useful conspiracies. Only the most viral, appealing, pandering, and polarizing need be deployed.

So for example, when Trump believes obvious BS like "South African farmer genocides" enough to ofter the compatriots of Elon Musk token oppressed white people citizenships, the conspiracy is normalized. 

The most divisive political conspiracies (WEF, Satanic cabal, cultural replacement) get absorbed through a selective criteria of their tangible use. 

Like a two-pronged thing.

1. The useful conspiracy is normalized
2. The truth of it is made absolute and countered. 

So when Trump posts ANY one of his COUNTLESS conspiracy-based lies on Truth Social it's a political truth, and an actionable one at that. 

What I think this has done is reduced what is outwardly conspiracy. If everything about his administration IS a natural conspiracy, and all the important ones turned out "true," what remains is on a narrow band of applicability in an apolitical realm.

It's up to the unaffiliated impending space objects, cryptids, ghosts, OBEs, or aliens to save the conspiracy mind co-opted by the draw of politics.

Their odds are mixed to depoliticize the preoccupation of culture from its polarized and all-around unhinged divisions..

But I still give "comet," and "apocalyptic alien invasion" the best odds of accomplishing such a task overnight.

Otherwise, we are waiting for a mass self-realization and populist rejection of polarization after learning from the adversity of watching society split in two and self-immolate.

[BeyondKnowledge]

We are watching society not split in two but into many. 

It all started with identity politics. When they started practicing it openly, the week minded fragmented into small easily labeled groups. That was by design. Divide and conquer. If we can't even talk to each other without getting angry then we are easy to control. 

As many on both sides are taking advantage of this, both parties are to blame.

This caused the rise of Trump as an outsider. That is how he got in power. 

As far as only him causing the state of political conspiracies that we have now, no. He only added to it. Not necessarily what he said but by those opposed to what he said also.

There are as many that think Trump is wrong on everything as there is that thinkTrump is right on everything. 

I believe Trump makes mistakes but is trying to do what he thinks is best for everyone. And I don't agree with everything he says and does.

Take the problem with the reflecting pool for example. I think it is more an incompetence problem with the work done rather than deliberate sabotage of the lining that is breaking up.

Tump thinks otherwise.

Trump is a symptom, not the cause. Just as all presidential candidates before him as long as I can remember.
 I have never voted for someone I would like be president. Only for who I considered not as bad as the other guy. Neither party has ever had a good candidate in my lifetime.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

He is a symptom and cause, disease and cure, and savvy enough to know what will work, which makes him a self-perpetuating symptom/cause loop. 

He might have been injected into the status quo as a populist symptom, but he is way more than that now.

Almost like he took over even the realm of the unknown and declared what is truth on several fronts, and at least in the USA tries to dictate what that is. Tries. 

If you disagree he creates a conspiratorial narrative where the opposition are more than just political opposition, but persitent organized threats to the country and actively conspiring against it, instead of just opposing HIS government's policies. 

I see it as a switcharoo. The Truth of our society is more often the conspiracy and the conspiracy of society is more often a truth.

Which leaves both truth and conspiracy at a crossroads between these battling realities. What is conspiracy or truth is at the mercy of its authoritative populist political uses.

[DBCowboy]

What's wrong with the entire concept of making America great?

I get that anti-Americans don't want America to be great, but Americans?

If ya'll feel that way then move to North Korea or China.

[putnam6]

We are watching society not split in two but into many. 

It all started with identity politics. When they started practicing it openly, the week minded fragmented into small easily labeled groups. That was by design. Divide and conquer. If we can't even talk to each other without getting angry then we are easy to control. 

As many on both sides are taking advantage of this, both parties are to blame.

This caused the rise of Trump as an outsider. That is how he got in power. 

As far as only him causing the state of political conspiracies that we have now, no. He only added to it. Not necessarily what he said but by those opposed to what he said also.

There are as many that think Trump is wrong on everything as there is that thinkTrump is right on everything. 

I believe Trump makes mistakes but is trying to do what he thinks is best for everyone. And I don't agree with everything he says and does.

Take the problem with the reflecting pool for example. I think it is more an incompetence problem with the work done rather than deliberate sabotage of the lining that is breaking up.

Tump thinks otherwise.

Trump is a symptom, not the cause. Just as all presidential candidates before him as long as I can remember.
 I have never voted for someone I would like be president. Only for who I considered not as bad as the other guy. Neither party has ever had a good candidate in my lifetime.

Probably, but people were sabotaging the lining, which is an incredibly infantile AF thing to do.

I hate this orange man so much Im gonna tear out this lining in the reflection pool.

[DBCowboy]

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Probably, but people were sabotaging the lining, which is an incredibly infantile AF thing to do.

I hate this orange man so much Im gonna tear out this lining in the reflection pool.

Cut off their nose to spite their face.

[worldstarcountry]

But I still give "comet," and "apocalyptic alien invasion" the best odds of accomplishing such a task overnight.

Otherwise, we are waiting for a mass self-realization and populist rejection of polarization after learning from the adversity of watching society split in two and self-immolate.

Well I don't know about you, but I am going to work with that junior politician combing DI for ideas with that Bedrock Plan or whatever he called it using primarily AI. He should really just write in his own style and use it to clean it up with the proper acknowledgement. Also, Me and Beyond are working on that draft law to return to every private citizen the contents of their mutually agreed recorded data from APPS and video game console controllers and meta glasses and wifi microwaves and Roomba vacuum cleaners stored on big tech and government data servers. As it is today, the only ones with access to your personal data that was mutually agreed to be recorded for convenience are those  who would weaponize it against you. I mean, these efforts are literally like the very foundations of proper civic outreach and cooperation towards national goals. Using the technology to advance these agendas is really helpful now that it is capable of  getting regular people information normally only  available to Law firm partnerships paying a 50$ (i dont know if that is over or under) an hour paralegal to do the research and pull case files or deep state think tanks.

I like cooperation, it feels good. Plus like, When the over 1 million switchboard operators jobs went obsolete, sometime in the eighties, the world did not end. Although it was rough because that also coincided with the outsourcing of most of the textile factories as well which was supposed to help absorb the industry layoffs. Then Clinton sent whatever was left to China blah blah blah whatever that stuff happened over thirty years ago when I was in grade school. There are more people now than ever involved in some way shape or form in the production servicing and/or sale of phones and the underlying infrastructure.

Anyone who sees a barrier or a divide, I see nothing. I just see empty space stopping nobody who was yelling at each other from a distance from walking to the other and then reaching out with an open hand to say "lets cooperate" . This is my way. Any others who choose to do it differently, that is on them.

Anyone who can see it that way as well, then they can make it reality. It requires very minimal actual effort.

[govshill2]

Seems the mass political attacking started to amplify x1000 in late 2016 AFTER the 2016 elections.

8 years prior was when the mass insolvency began. 

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

What's wrong with the entire concept of making America great?

I get that anti-Americans don't want America to be great, but Americans?

If ya'll feel that way then move to North Korea or China.

Your greatness is another's corrupt hellscape and vice versa.  

Trump's American Greatness is largely a subjective opinion, and not even one based in constitutional law a lot of the time. Support wise, it is only 40% of people's ideal of greatness now.  

The plurality of support has faded and the 35 to 45 seat flip (-20 for redistricting) is impending with as strong as 4:1 odds.  It is as likely as Netanyahu losing parliment control the month earlier. 

Though I defend your right to think and affirm Trump's policies make us great, your argument doesnt have the integrity to convince me. 

But nothing nothing says I can't use my 1st amendment rights to speak out on my belief Trump is the president that proudly held up The Constitution - with a bald eagle on his shoulder - as F-18s flew over - with Lynyrd Skynyrd playing Sweet Home Alabama in the background - only to throw it on the ground and piss on it, before shooting the bald eagle to the cheers of the crowd.

And FYI, like yourself, I truly believe in my own patriotic duty.

From my perspective I am still doing this:

"If ever the time should come, when vain & aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
- Samuel Adams

So for me, it is the furthest thing from Anti-American.

Especially because I still strongly believe in the power of checks and balances. I hope that a lost house majority further reigns in his policies that "make us great."

[DBCowboy]

Your greatness is another's corrupt hellscape and vice versa.  

Trump's American Greatness is largely a subjective opinion, and not even one based in constitutional law a lot of the time. Support wise, it is only 40% of people's ideal of greatness now.  

The plurality of support has faded and the 35 to 45 seat flip (-20 for redistricting) is impending with as strong as 4:1 odds.  It is as likely as Netanyahu losing parliment control the month earlier. 

Though I defend your right to think and affirm Trump's policies make us great, your argument doesnt have the integrity to convince me. 

But nothing nothing says I can't use my 1st amendment rights to speak out on my belief Trump is the president that proudly held up The Constitution - with a bald eagle on his shoulder - as F-18s flew over - with Lynyrd Skynyrd playing Sweet Home Alabama in the background - only to throw it on the ground and piss on it, before shooting the bald eagle to the cheers of the crowd.

And FYI, like yourself, I truly believe in my own patriotic duty.

From my perspective I am still doing this:

So for me, it is the furthest thing from Anti-American.

Especially because I still strongly believe in the power of checks and balances. I hope that a lost house majority further reigns in his policies that "make us great."

Cut through the chase, you think it's Pro-American to be against Trump's policies.

Like closed borders and lower taxes?