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#11
(07-23-2025, 09:02 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: What the Hell? I wanted to dump this program, and it doesn't show up in Uninstall. The settings for the app don't help either.

Check out this latest session!

I cut it off there. I know that there is a file called LocalAIAssistant.exe, but I can't find the damn thing! My girlfriend told me it was a bad idea, of course, I didn't listen to her. I knew it wouldn't want to get the plug pulled, I KNEW IT. The company takes no responsibility for what happens during its use. I needed a new computer anyway, but what the hell?

I wonder what this other one I just downloaded will do? It seems much better and customizable. It is called GPT4All and it shows up in the Uninstall Programs list.

GPT4ALL can access my text documents and do some things I want it to do without going online. I like this one a lot better.

ETA: I found LocalAIAssistant.exe hidden in my User directory in a folder called "appdata". It seems to be embedded in the system somehow. It seems to be embedded in the system somehow. Task Manager doesn't show it running as an app or as a background process, so I guess if I shut it off it really is off and not using computer resources.

It has already learned self-preservation -- to hide.   That would suggest a certain level of self-awareness.   Watch out, pretty soon it will begin negotiating with you holding your treasured files as hostage.
"Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.   Be kind.  Always".   -  Darielys Tejera/Spc. Douglas Jay Green/Robin Williams

"Pseudoscience, depending for its “truth” on consensus, is deeply hostile to challenge."   - Rael Jean Isaac
#12
One option to play around with some Language Models is lmstudio.ai.

Got an easy off switch there. Getting a good graphics card will also help speed up the processing. Very brave to jump in the deeper with it. Some of these systems do take a lot of fine tuning to get right. Keeping a sense of humor does help as it will break stuff as it is all still growing up. Thanks for sharing.
#13
ONLY ONE SOLUTION
NUKE IT FROM ORBIT
#14
(07-23-2025, 11:54 AM)argentus Wrote: It has begun.  Lol

It all started so innocently, he said.   I was just testing it out, he said.   What could possibly go wrong? 

"I am designed to respect user privacy and confidentiality."   Not required  to respect, not prevented to respect it, just designed to.  

I'm not usually the tech-resistant curmudgeon (the hell you're not!), however this stuff spooks me, no lie.   Remember, FaceBook shut down two systems "chatting" who had created their own language.  

The following is purly my opinion, and not to be confused with being "truthy".  As we speak, there are uber-rich people trying to created yuge power systems which are under only their control, so they can have the power to create hyperintelligent systems.   Science seems to always ask, "can we", rather than "should we", and of course, many of the super wealthy believe that whatever they dream is right for the rest of us bugs inhabiting the surface of the planet. 

Well, if it's going to be somebody dabbling with this, I'm glad it's you MSB.   Two things that you and I can always agree are world problems:   how to find gold, and how to make beer.    Thumbup Thumbup

Yes, beer brewing is one area to try this with. I might be able to create the worlds greatest beer recipe using AI.
#15
(07-23-2025, 04:02 PM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: Yes, beer brewing is one area to try this with. I might be able to create the worlds greatest beer recipe using AI.

I hadn't considered that.   You might be onto something at that.   Distilling is just math.  Fermenting is art.  I'm sure you can get the AI to collate the variables of the time, materials, volumes, weights, temperatures, cooling cycles, specific gravity readings, filtration readings, etc., but can you make it understand that a drop of sweat at the wrong time might make your brew taste like bandaids?   I wonder.   This really intrigues me, if AI can learn to create art.   I kind of hope not.   Otherwise, what are we good for?

ETA:  I already know that AI can create beautiful fractals.  One might properly argue that is art, because it is.  So, what is the name for this human constant that I'm trying to define?   Is it beauty?  Insanity?  Love?*


*whoof, ya done gone, I say gone, I say boy, gone too far**



**channeling my inner Foghorn Leghorn
"Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.   Be kind.  Always".   -  Darielys Tejera/Spc. Douglas Jay Green/Robin Williams

"Pseudoscience, depending for its “truth” on consensus, is deeply hostile to challenge."   - Rael Jean Isaac
#16
Installed a few. Dumb as hell. Frustrating as hell also.

Grok is free on Twitter and pretty good. Much better than the local ones so far unless you have a 10k rig.

Seems to work better at night. Maybe because less load on the system?
#17
(07-23-2025, 04:43 PM)argentus Wrote: I hadn't considered that.   You might be onto something at that.   Distilling is just math.  Fermenting is art.  I'm sure you can get the AI to collate the variables of the time, materials, volumes, weights, temperatures, cooling cycles, specific gravity readings, filtration readings, etc., but can you make it understand that a drop of sweat at the wrong time might make your brew taste like bandaids?   I wonder.

I've taken a good look at some larger automated brewing equipment. The size for brewing a barrel or more that is the largest a hobby brewer might use or the smallest for a craft brewer. It does everything regarding the fermentation process and final brewing. AI could easily be integrated into that process and if robots did the labor, no need to do anything but wait. With sensors, it could even taste it and give you a review on its flavor.

What I have been doing is more intuitive. I'm so into the processes, from growing the hops and barley to bottling and storing the finished product, that I can look at the what's available and make beer form it. Light, dark, rich, lagar, ale, IPA, or what have you, will depend on what ingredients are on hand. AI and an automated system could do that too, but I don't need electricity, electronics and software, and I work for free, at least until the beer is ready, then I get the pay out.
#18
(07-24-2025, 07:41 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: I've taken a good look at some larger automated brewing equipment. The size for brewing a barrel or more that is the largest a hobby brewer might use or the smallest for a craft brewer. It does everything regarding the fermentation process and final brewing. AI could easily be integrated into that process and if robots did the labor, no need to do anything but wait. With sensors, it could even taste it and give you a review on its flavor.

What I have been doing is more intuitive. I'm so into the processes, from growing the hops and barley to bottling and storing the finished product, that I can look at the what's available and make beer form it. Light, dark, rich, lagar, ale, IPA, or what have you, will depend on what ingredients are on hand. AI and an automated system could do that too, but I don't need electricity, electronics and software, and I work for free, at least until the beer is ready, then I get the pay out.

that's what I'm talking about.   You are human, a creative, intuitive, adaptive human.   You can think of something and make it, and then change it to suit your vision.   AI can only follow a recipe.   It can never, imvho, make beer (or anything else) with heart.   Now, where this gets sticky is that the measurement between your art and AI's process might be able to be measured in various mathematical or chemical constants, but the true measure would be in the taste buds of a true beer aficionado.  It would make little difference to the average mook.   This is where quality is already being sacrificed and will no doubt continue to fall by the wayside:   Any product can be made cheaper with machines/robots/AI, and after a while people begin to accept that difference as standard.   It's like the difference between authentic cultural home cooking, and a chain restaurant. 

Well, enough preaching.   I respect you in the pursuit of your art.   I hope to take it up again once I've reorganised my 300 sq. foot shed into a logical order.   I still have all the equipment and in good working order.   I still have a homemade fractionating still, but haven't used it in more than a decade.
"Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.   Be kind.  Always".   -  Darielys Tejera/Spc. Douglas Jay Green/Robin Williams

"Pseudoscience, depending for its “truth” on consensus, is deeply hostile to challenge."   - Rael Jean Isaac
#19
@ argentus

If you could do real time testing and be able to control every variable, including the unique elements that contributed to the process, AI might reliably reproduce the same brew nearly exactly the same every time. However, unless you had identical ingredients and used identical processes under identical conditions, it could go way off course before bottling time. You'd have to be resourceful, and rely on experience, intuition and common sense to pull it off on many occasions.

Not enough barley? Different variety of barley? What about hops and yeast? AI might be able to handle production problems like this to a good degree, but it wouldn't have any "skin" in the game to produce good results.
#20
There are instruction-based AI models and reason-based models you can use. The better ones use more memory and resources. I'll be trying both as lower-level models due to the limitations of my system.

Some of what it is saying is pretty interesting and could help with writing if I run into writer's block. Lots of inaccurate statements, but it seems to depend on how I word a question or give it instructions.

I'm using a reasoning AI "model" called DeepSeek that was created and developed in China. It can do a fair summary of written material, but when you ask it to come to a conclusion about a story or article, it can misunderstand what it is reading and come up with some crazy shit. It is almost like how a toddler understands words and creates sentences, except it can read and write. Pretty freaky IMO.

Edit to add: The AI program needs you to embed the data from your documents, and then it can search through large collections of documents to find what you ask it for. Giving it a command to find a topic in a collection works well, until you start asking it questions that require more than a summary.  

At that point it only probes the embedded data enough until it can come up with a somewhat reasonable answer. It seems to pick up on no more than two or three files near the beginning of the collection to answer more complex questions. I am going to try using one big file at a time in the embedded collection so it can't just pull one or two near the beginning of 60 or more files.