Keto My Way

[RichardHurt]

 

[Harte]

I'm not on a keto diet. At least not on purpose.
I blame neurotic insulin insecurity.
I've got it so bad I've got six weeks worth of extra insulin stashed in my fridge. LOL
All by watching my carb intake.

Harte

[argentus]

lots of good ideas on this thread for a lower carb diet from you guys and gals.

Yes, i can see where this wouldn't be a temporary change you would enjoy;  it's certainly not for everyone.   I have been struggling with my weight and trying various things for nearly a decade.   The ill effects I have are almost entirely due to being overweight.  I recognize that quality of life is more important, however I was in process of shortening mine.   I likely already have shortened it.   No way to measure.   I can measure improvement though. 

So, when I get to my target weight, I will occasionally have some of those treats that you and I hold so dear.   I have come to recognize -- only for myself -- that I was addicted to carbs, which was why sometimes I felt the urge to stack while also being already full.   I have lost all those cravings, and tend more now toward eating when I am hungry, rather than at a specific time.   I was how I nourished myself when I was young, although I certainly couldn't characterize my food intake when I was young as anything even close to healthy.

[argentus]

Keto kale with bacon!
3 cups kale, chopped 2 strips bacon
1/4 cup onion,
chopped Salt + pepper
 Chop bacon and sauté over medium heat for 4-5 minutes
 Add in onions and continue to cook until onions good and translucent and bacon is near crisp.
Add in kale and cook until it has shrunk by half.
 Season

If anyone had suggested a year ago that I would be eating kale, I would have told them they were crazy.  That said, your recipe sounds delicious and I will try it.  Thank you!

[argentus]

Okay, so I have to openly acknowledge a Senior Moment;  I was under the mistaken impression that lactose-free milk was zero carbs.  I mean, lactose is the sugar in milk which has carbs, right?  I mean, look at the label!! 

The lactose-free milk clearly reads, "lactose free".   However, the truth is that they add lactase to regular milk to make it more digestible, such that it doesn't theoretically raise the glycemic index.   Assholes.  I have been shooting myself in the foot with these unmeasured carbs.   It's my fault.   I should have looked at the label.   I already know cheese isn't free.  

Still, I'm losing about a pound every two days.  I can live with that.  

Due to my workout regime, I don't look as fat as I am, however, every little bit realizes more benefit.   I can now put on my socks and shoes without grunting.   I can now pick up stuff off the floor without distress, and that's just 20 lbs.   Imagine the future.   

I do this thread primarily for those who might be in my similar situation, and having tried everything else, don't know where to turn.  Listen, you are not alone.   Talk to me.

[argentus]

I'm not on a keto diet. At least not on purpose.
I blame neurotic insulin insecurity.
I've got it so bad I've got six weeks worth of extra insulin stashed in my fridge. LOL
All by watching my carb intake.

Harte

I admire anyone who stocks away that which they need as a hedge against future strangeness.

[argentus]

Oh wow, that's what it is called. Not "potatoes fried with onions and bell pepper". It is indeed a breakfast staple.

For some reason, when I hear "Potatoes O'Brian", I think of potato casserole with capers... which is also delicious.

You forgot the little jig.   If you make Potatoes O'Brien (formerly misspelled as 'Potatoes O'Brian)",  it is icumbant upon you to do a little jig.   Plus, you have to add some form of powdered pepper -- I like Chili Powder and Italian spice -- and some salt and pepper and minced garlic.  

But, the jig is important.  You have to honour the muses of Ireland.  Sort of like when you drink Irish Whiskey, you might feel an urge to lift your crooked elbows when you dance.

[UltraBudgie]

You forgot the little jig.   If you make Potatoes O'Brien (formerly misspelled as 'Potatoes O'Brian)",  it is icumbant upon you to do a little jig.   Plus, you have to add some form of powdered pepper -- I like Chili Powder and Italian spice -- and some salt and pepper and minced garlic.  

But, the jig is important.  You have to honour the muses of Ireland.  Sort of like when you drink Irish Whiskey, you might feel an urge to lift your crooked elbows when you dance.

I do that often anyway!



Hint: Add a dash of paprika!

[rickymouse]

Okay, so I have to openly acknowledge a Senior Moment;  I was under the mistaken impression that lactose-free milk was zero carbs.  I mean, lactose is the sugar in milk which has carbs, right?  I mean, look at the label!! [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...12_670.jpg]

The lactose-free milk clearly reads, "lactose free".   However, the truth is that they add lactase to regular milk to make it more digestible, such that it doesn't theoretically raise the glycemic index.   Assholes.  I have been shooting myself in the foot with these unmeasured carbs.   It's my fault.   I should have looked at the label.   I already know cheese isn't free.  

Still, I'm losing about a pound every two days.  I can live with that.  

Due to my workout regime, I don't look as fat as I am, however, every little bit realizes more benefit.   I can now put on my socks and shoes without grunting.   I can now pick up stuff off the floor without distress, and that's just 20 lbs.   Imagine the future.   

I do this thread primarily for those who might be in my similar situation, and having tried everything else, don't know where to turn.  Listen, you are not alone.   Talk to me.

It is best to lose weight slowly, a pound every two days is really good, as long as you eat foods that have nutrition in them.  I lost thirty pounds in a month years back eating homemade soups every day and felt great at the end of the month.  I was able to go out into the woods and cut dead trees and haul the firewood from them back to the house to stock for using in our kitchen woodstove or for grilling food in the firepit.

That was back when I was way younger, about fifty five to fifty eight years old.  I actually gained muscle mass because the soups I ate were Beef barley vegetable, made with meaty soup bones, Chicken vegetable soups made with either rice and veggies including potatoes or rice, and of course split pea with ham.  All had cabbage and celery and carrots in them plus mixed frozen veggies.  I still make big pots of soup almost every week, but the kids and grandkids really like it and it is all medicinal quality soup I make.

During that time I also made quite a bit of cream of asparagus soup and also some stews.  It was almost a keto diet actually, except for the potatoes, barley. and rice I guess.  Collagen is high in beef soup made with collagenous beef bones.  I was surprised I lost thirty pounds back then and actually gained muscle.  But there was lots of beef and chicken in those soups, and I boiled the meats, then deboned the meat throwing the bones back in the pot for two more hours.  Then I strained out the soup, chewed on any softened collagen left, and then started over with new greens and carrots and the final veggies and rice and potatoes. 

Every so often I go on the soup kick for a week and dump like eight pounds, which I gain back in the next three weeks again after returning to just three servings of soup a week  I suppose I really should go and do that soup thing again, but the wife got real sick of soups after years of it, and making a big pot of the same soup and eating it myself means I get tired of not enough rotation.....I suppose I could make smaller pots, but my packages of soup bones and spare ribs from my half cow are big packages.  WE do go through about six to eight pounds of onions a month, all yellow onions, we use onions a lot and I buy five packs of garlic when I buy them about once a month.

We just bought a fifty pound box of potatoes, that will last us about ten days....we get to eat about three pounds of that, the deer eat the rest.  I get exercise when I see the deer begging at our deck steps, I have to constantly be getting them potatoes, carrots, and apples.  They also like homemade bread a lot, and I bet I put on a thousand steps a day feeding the deer.  People would say my food storage is inefficient, but I keep the potatoes in the basement, the apples in the shed, plus I go from the sink to the patio door to throw out food three times  in a feeding.  So the steps build up and it is good exercise.  There are four does that come with their fawns, so there are lots of trips to the patio door from the sink, they come at different times, not together, and each doe comes two times a day most days.  So five pounds of potatoes, five carrots, and ten apples a day along with about a quarter loaf of bread or more.  And now it is fall, I suspect that we will have more deer this fall, and the fawns are now starting to eat carrots and apples...the mothers do not leave them eat human provided food till they learn to eat in the wild.

We serve a lot of potatoes in this house, but don't really eat that much.

I also will never shoot one of the deer that come here, even if I was broke.  I don't eat my pets. 

Strangely, it cost less to feed four does two meals a day than it cost us to feed two cats and buy litter for them.  Especially when one of the cats ate a twelve or more ounce package of bacon every week along with decent quality dry catfood and milk..

Plus, you do not have to change litter for the deer.  I serve the deer when they are there, you don't throw out food when they are not, there are also bears out here where we live.  They destroy the bird feeders, especially the sewet cages and the hummingbird feeders, so we only put out sewet in the winter when bears are hibernating now.

[argentus]

It is best to lose weight slowly, a pound every two days is really good, as long as you eat foods that have nutrition in them.  I lost thirty pounds in a month years back eating homemade soups every day and felt great at the end of the month.  I was able to go out into the woods and cut dead trees and haul the firewood from them back to the house to stock for using in our kitchen woodstove or for grilling food in the firepit.

That was back when I was way younger, about fifty five to fifty eight years old.  I actually gained muscle mass because the soups I ate were Beef barley vegetable, made with meaty soup bones, Chicken vegetable soups made with either rice and veggies including potatoes or rice, and of course split pea with ham.  All had cabbage and celery and carrots in them plus mixed frozen veggies.  I still make big pots of soup almost every week, but the kids and grandkids really like it and it is all medicinal quality soup I make.

During that time I also made quite a bit of cream of asparagus soup and also some stews.  It was almost a keto diet actually, except for the potatoes, barley. and rice I guess.  Collagen is high in beef soup made with collagenous beef bones.  I was surprised I lost thirty pounds back then and actually gained muscle.  But there was lots of beef and chicken in those soups, and I boiled the meats, then deboned the meat throwing the bones back in the pot for two more hours.  Then I strained out the soup, chewed on any softened collagen left, and then started over with new greens and carrots and the final veggies and rice and potatoes. 

Every so often I go on the soup kick for a week and dump like eight pounds, which I gain back in the next three weeks again after returning to just three servings of soup a week  I suppose I really should go and do that soup thing again, but the wife got real sick of soups after years of it, and making a big pot of the same soup and eating it myself means I get tired of not enough rotation.....I suppose I could make smaller pots, but my packages of soup bones and spare ribs from my half cow are big packages.  WE do go through about six to eight pounds of onions a month, all yellow onions, we use onions a lot and I buy five packs of garlic when I buy them about once a month.

We just bought a fifty pound box of potatoes, that will last us about ten days....we get to eat about three pounds of that, the deer eat the rest.  I get exercise when I see the deer begging at our deck steps, I have to constantly be getting them potatoes, carrots, and apples.  They also like homemade bread a lot, and I bet I put on a thousand steps a day feeding the deer.  People would say my food storage is inefficient, but I keep the potatoes in the basement, the apples in the shed, plus I go from the sink to the patio door to throw out food three times  in a feeding.  So the steps build up and it is good exercise.  There are four does that come with their fawns, so there are lots of trips to the patio door from the sink, they come at different times, not together, and each doe comes two times a day most days.  So five pounds of potatoes, five carrots, and ten apples a day along with about a quarter loaf of bread or more.  And now it is fall, I suspect that we will have more deer this fall, and the fawns are now starting to eat carrots and apples...the mothers do not leave them eat human provided food till they learn to eat in the wild.

We serve a lot of potatoes in this house, but don't really eat that much.

I also will never shoot one of the deer that come here, even if I was broke.  I don't eat my pets. 

Strangely, it cost less to feed four does two meals a day than it cost us to feed two cats and buy litter for them.  Especially when one of the cats ate a twelve or more ounce package of bacon every week along with decent quality dry catfood and milk..

Plus, you do not have to change litter for the deer.  I serve the deer when they are there, you don't throw out food when they are not, there are also bears out here where we live.  They destroy the bird feeders, especially the sewet cages and the hummingbird feeders, so we only put out sewet in the winter when bears are hibernating now.

Good on you!   I don't haul firewood because we don't have a fireplace, because we live in the tropics.  

I can remeber feeding deer also.   We put out a salt block and a protein block.   We moved them both gradually closer to the house, because we wanted to be rewarded by looking at them.  When the elk showed up, we put the salt and protein licks inside our six-foot fence.   The elk got over it easily.  It was a good system.

I love potatoes.   I grew up in Idaho.   We got off every year two weeks for the potato harvest whether we were involved or not.   We also got off a week for opening season of Deer, and Elk season opening.  Hey, everone was going to be gone.  No reason to try to have school.