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(12-30-2025, 08:59 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Looking forward in your deep dive of actually citing and quoting with context and sources. Not your flippant false assurances and blatant falsehoods.
You are free to refute it with all the research you need to do using independent investigative news and a desire for the truth.
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(12-30-2025, 09:06 AM)quintessentone Wrote: You are free to refute it with all the research you need to do using independent investigative news and a desire for the truth.
Or I have followed US politics for the last 10 years and do research and can’t verify your claims you provide no proof of.
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(12-30-2025, 09:11 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Or I have followed US politics for the last 10 years and do research and can’t verify your claims you provide no proof of.
I provide proof ad nauseum which is ignored for the response you just gave. Stop playing games and refute my claim that Trump started his election rigging rhetoric during his campaigning in 2016 and thereafter. By refusing you show everyone that the truth does not matter.
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12-30-2025, 09:20 AM
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(12-29-2025, 07:18 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: The guy bought the bomb parts before the election! Yeah .. these far lefties ... they believe in time travel or something ....
The guy bought the materials and was making plans after Trump won in 2016
and before he said anything about stolen elections in late 2020.
So his claim that he did it because of Trumps rhetoric is blatantly false.
AND the dude was blowing up both Republicans and Democrats, which
he wouldn't do if he was listening to Trump.
Major DUH! moment here ...
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12-30-2025, 09:31 AM
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(12-30-2025, 09:18 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I provide proof ad nauseum which is ignored for the response you just gave. Stop playing games and refute my claim that Trump started his election rigging rhetoric during his campaigning in 2016 and thereafter. By refusing you show everyone that the truth does not matter.
Asking you to cite, quote, source is playing games? Especially if you are inferring to your false assurances Trump was calling for violence. That’s just basic. And you keep making false assurances without actually providing actual quotes and context.
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As usual here nobody has credible sources to refute my claims only opinion and biased beliefs. Trump said if Hillary wins he will not accept the election results thereby starting his election rigging con job schtick. This guy Cole seemed obsessed with corruption of governments and way before Jan. 6 Trump used that same con.
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12-30-2025, 09:44 AM
This post was last modified: 12-30-2025, 10:03 AM by Kurokage. 
(12-29-2025, 02:08 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Where you can’t prove exactly where the individual lives and the individual has claimed to not be a US citizen.
And if the news piece in question was found out to be an edited lie. Wouldn’t it be taken off the official source site.
You do like to rant over several posts, but in response....
From the article on the opening post...
Where the guy resides.
Quote:A Virginia man arrested earlier this month repeatedly cited conspiracy theories about the 2020 election
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...605341007/
Quote:Brian Cole, 30, lives in Woodbridge, Virginia, a community in Prince William County located about 20 miles south of Washington.
According to a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia reviewed by USA TODAY, Cole resides in a home with his mother and other family members.
His high school and job in the US...
https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/upd...fb4a5.html
Quote:D.C. pipe bomb suspect Brian Jerome Cole Jr. lived with his mother and other family in a five-bedroom house outside Dale City and worked as a bail bondsman in a family business...
According to the affidavit and property records, Cole, who is 5 feet 6 inches tall and wears glasses, lived with his mother in the five-bedroom, three-bath house valued at $611,000. He graduated from Hylton High School in 2013 and is listed in the affidavit as employed as a bail bondsman in Northern Virginia.
Cole’s father is president at Free U Bail Bond Inc. in Fairfax, according to his LinkedIn profile.
As to the BBC Panorama program...
https://time.com/7332902/bbc-controversy...explainer/
Quote:The BBC documentary program Panorama, which aired in October last year, spliced together two separate quotes from Trump’s Jan. 6 speech, which he gave to a crowd of his supporters that had gathered in Washington, D.C., to rally around the belief that the 2020 election had been stolen from Trump.
Even if he'd manged to watch it, it didn't air till long after.
You're conformation bias was evident in your post, and your post had nothing but poor information that confirms your own existing beliefs while ignoring or dismissing contradictory evidence.
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(12-30-2025, 09:38 AM)quintessentone Wrote: As usual here nobody has credible sources to refute my claims only opinion and biased beliefs.

Opinion and biased beliefs ... that'd be YOU.
That's not the way it works, skippy. YOU made a claim therefore YOU have to back it up. And you can't. Trump WON in 2016 and therefore he was not whining about the election being stolen from him. That didn't happen until late 2020. The bomber bought his supplies and made his plans BEFORE Trump complained about stolen elections in late 2020. Plus the bomber went to bomb both Republicans and Democrats ... if he was listening to Trump he wouldn't have been trying to blow up Republicans.
You look really desperate and you fail ... as usual.
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(12-30-2025, 09:18 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I provide proof ad nauseum which is ignored for the response you just gave. Stop playing games and refute my claim that Trump started his election rigging rhetoric during his campaigning in 2016 and thereafter. By refusing you show everyone that the truth does not matter.
I’m not quite sure what this individual is trying to spin here. You are saying Trump started being persuasive in his mentions of voter fraud? Yea, Trump is a decent public speaker and knows how to be persuasive. So you can say he started his election rigging rhetoric in 2016 on his campaign trail and no one has to refute that, because it is a true statement, the guy is persuasive. Can you refute the claims of voter fraud tho? There has been some degree of voter fraud in nearly every state for over the last decade. From local elections and mid terms, to the general elections. Fraud is documented every year. Sometimes hundreds of cases a year. There are resources that document the fraud and the convictions. So if you are insinuating that Trump is or was trying to convince the public of election fraud id say you are correct and he is justified in doing so because voter fraud happens at all levels in all states and requires citizens to be aware and vigilant. Is Trump supposed to stand in the burning building and say everything is fine or is he supposed to convince the public to take a closer look at the voting processes in their own towns.
Somehow, in your mind, Trump is bad and anything he says is bad, despite any merit. You use your disdain for the guy to blind your critical thinking, lookin for a confirmation bias and cherry picking details. The fed slop tells you the pipe bomber was such and such so you run with it as proof of Trump encouraging political violence and completely miss the point that the FEDS are lying to you…. Again. The pipe bomber narrative being put forth is bullshit, that has nothing to do with what Trump said on his campaign trail.
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12-30-2025, 01:26 PM
This post was last modified: 12-30-2025, 01:47 PM by WallFlowerActive. 
(12-30-2025, 09:44 AM)Kurokage Wrote: You do like to rant over several posts, but in response....
I have no Idea how far back the guy started making the claims. But the ones I know are in the last few months which are long after the documentary was offered on services to be viewed that could be accessed through VPN. And it was an example.
Another example.
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