Jimmy Kimmel pulled from the air over false comment about Kirk murder

[SomeStupidName]

FCC and the FCC Chairman has no say in programming content. What don't you understand about that?

FCC didn't fire him what don't you understand about that. 

This is from Google AI:
False information and news distortion

• The FCC prohibits broadcasters from airing false information about a crime or catastrophe if they know the information is false and it is foreseeable that it will cause substantial public harm.
  
• While the First Amendment limits the FCC's role in editorial decisions, licensees may not intentionally distort the news. The FCC will investigate documented evidence of intentional falsification of news reports by station management. 
  

So yes they do have the authority to issue fines at minimum and then peruse to revoke broadcast licenses through court decisions.

[quintessentone]

FCC didn't fire him what don't you understand about that. 

This is from Google AI:False information and news distortion

• The FCC prohibits broadcasters from airing false information about a crime or catastrophe if they know the information is false and it is foreseeable that it will cause substantial public harm.
  
• While the First Amendment limits the FCC's role in editorial decisions, licensees may not intentionally distort the news. The FCC will investigate documented evidence of intentional falsification of news reports by station management. 
  

So yes they do have the authority to issue fines at minimum and then peruse to revoke broadcast licenses through court decisions.

..."if they know the information is false...

It has not been proven in a court of law that what Kimmel said was false, so they had and still have no right to censure or intimidate a station to fire someone.

[SomeStupidName]

I don’t think you could watch a one hour segment on any cable news channel without seeing something that was a lie or wrong.

I don’t even think his was the biggest offender in recent history. We’ve been lied into wars, lied into economic turmoil all aided by the media.

Him saying it was maga was dumb. There’s no evidence that he was currently in that camp to my knowledge. But I also see people (even in positions of power) saying this was done by the collective left, and saying consequences to the collective left are coming. Maybe Robinson did have some connections and help, I don’t believe that’s public yet.

So, ultimately, here’s the problem. No one is ever going to agree on what the “truth” is ever again. We’re past that time if it ever existed. I think Kimmel saying he was maga is wrong. I think others saying all of the left did this is wrong. And I think they all have the right to be wrong.

I can come to my own conclusions without the help of politicians, MSM, pundits and influencers. And while I don’t trust the information landscape since it’s riddled with bias and propaganda, I don’t trust anyone to tell me what is right and wrong, so I’d like to come to that conclusion myself without the government deciding what is “good for me”.

The left played cancel culture and strong arming, and that’s why they lost. Using their actions to justify new renditions of it are as wrong as the original transgressions.

Also cable news is not held to the same FCC standards as broadcast television since Cable is subscription based.

[SomeStupidName]

..."if they know the information is false...

It has not been proven in a court of law that what Kimmel said was false, so they had and still have no right to censure or intimidate a station to fire someone.

What he said is false and based on the all the actual facts at that time it was clearly false, which brought in the FCC. ABC then asked Kimmel to tone it back and he said no so boss said well your fired. It's that simple.

I know you want it to be more because you are looking to increase the tensions, all he had to say was political violence is horrible and no one should be happy for this and he would still be on the air until his next contract period.

[WallFlowerActive]

I was specifically referring to what Kimmel said, and it stands, they have no right to do or say anything pertaining to what Kimmel said.

Hear me out.  Maybe, just maybe…

if your don’t understand the role of the FCC and butcher its authority over broadcast TV.

If you don’t understand US civil suits and cases over slander and liable.

Not willing to discuss Kimmel is still free to speak on his own time and dime.

Not willing to discuss what Kimmel said and why it’s misinformation with zero proof.

Why doesn’t Kimmel use social media to make his case.

His show has low number of viewers.

His show is losing ratings.

Affiliates refused to broadcast his statement over fear being open to civil suits.

While ignoring the new development of an ABC building shot at through a window. 

Maybe, just maybe you need to move out of this thread.

[quintessentone]

Kimmel's show is in the entertainment division and not out of its news division.

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"What are the public interest rules for broadcasters?
 Over-the-air broadcasts by local TV and radio stations are subject to speech restraints in certain areas, but cable or satellite TV programs are generally not. The FCC does not regulate online content.
 
FCC-imposed constraints on broadcasters involve topics typically identified by Congress or adopted by the FCC through rulemaking or formal proceedings.
 
They include indecency and obscenity, commercial content in children’s TV programming, sponsorship identification and the conduct of on-air contests.
 
“When it comes to regulating content, the public interest standard is pretty circumscribed,” London said. The FCC’s regulatory powers “are not a blank check, and definitely not when it comes to regulating content on broadcast TV.”"

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"There is a distinction between “deliberate distortion” and inaccuracies and differences of opinion. Broadcasters are only subject to enforcement if it can be proven that they deliberately distorted a factual news report, the FCC says. “Expressions of opinion or errors stemming from mistakes are not actionable.”"

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"Legal experts said Carr’s commentary overlooks a few important factors with Kimmel’s show.
“Jimmy Kimmel Live” runs out of ABC’s entertainment division, not its news division.
 
In addition, it’s complicated to argue that Kimmel was knowingly sharing inaccurate information. At the time of his monologue, some news reports had discussed the relationship of the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, to a gender-transitioning roommate, but the charging documents had not yet been released.
 
“I don’t receive Kimmel’s comments as a falsehood in the same way that a deceptive statement about a cryptocurrency or misdirection about a polling place is,” Sylvain said. “Nor can we say that Kimmel, an entertainer, was advancing anything other than an opinion.”"


After Jimmy Kimmel’s show was suspended, a key question is: Does the FCC have the power to regulate speech? | PBS News

[WallFlowerActive]

..."if they know the information is false...

It has not been proven in a court of law that what Kimmel said was false, so they had and still have no right to censure or intimidate a station to fire someone.

Good golly almighty.

Kimmel has to be able to prove his statement at the time he made it.  Where there is zero evidence to support Kimmel’s statement of “the shooter was one of the MAGA gang” that opens him and employer to civil suits now which have a lower bar for evidence than a criminal case.

[WallFlowerActive]

Kimmel's show is in the entertainment division and not out of its news division.

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Ok.   Kimmel isn’t back on the air and Disney / ABC is making no effort for an apology or reconciliation.  There is no evidence Disney / ABC did anything wrong.  He got fired by his employer for misinformation Kimmel couldn’t back and was going to double down on the misinformation opening his employer up for law suits they would lose.

Agsin.  It’s not that deep.

[WallFlowerActive]

I was specifically referring to what Kimmel said, and it stands, they have no right to do or say anything pertaining to what Kimmel said.

Kimmel’s employer had every right to fire him to protect their image and prevent lawsuits over misinformation Kimmel can’t defend / prove at the time he made the statements.  It doesn’t even have to be misinformation.  A company can fire their employees just to protect their image or bottom line to their stock holders.  In fact, companies by law are obligated to protect stock holders.  Kimmel still on the losing end.  Sorry.

[SomeStupidName]

Kimmel's show is in the entertainment division and not out of its news division.

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"What are the public interest rules for broadcasters?
 Over-the-air broadcasts by local TV and radio stations are subject to speech restraints in certain areas, but cable or satellite TV programs are generally not. The FCC does not regulate online content.
 
FCC-imposed constraints on broadcasters involve topics typically identified by Congress or adopted by the FCC through rulemaking or formal proceedings.
 
They include indecency and obscenity, commercial content in children’s TV programming, sponsorship identification and the conduct of on-air contests.
 
“When it comes to regulating content, the public interest standard is pretty circumscribed,” London said. The FCC’s regulatory powers “are not a blank check, and definitely not when it comes to regulating content on broadcast TV.”"

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"There is a distinction between “deliberate distortion” and inaccuracies and differences of opinion. Broadcasters are only subject to enforcement if it can be proven that they deliberately distorted a factual news report, the FCC says. “Expressions of opinion or errors stemming from mistakes are not actionable.”"

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"Legal experts said Carr’s commentary overlooks a few important factors with Kimmel’s show.
“Jimmy Kimmel Live” runs out of ABC’s entertainment division, not its news division.
 
In addition, it’s complicated to argue that Kimmel was knowingly sharing inaccurate information. At the time of his monologue, some news reports had discussed the relationship of the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, to a gender-transitioning roommate, but the charging documents had not yet been released.
 
“I don’t receive Kimmel’s comments as a falsehood in the same way that a deceptive statement about a cryptocurrency or misdirection about a polling place is,” Sylvain said. “Nor can we say that Kimmel, an entertainer, was advancing anything other than an opinion.”"


After Jimmy Kimmel’s show was suspended, a key question is: Does the FCC have the power to regulate speech? | PBS News

He new he was spreading disinformation and was well aware and proud to do so. But had the FCC tried to actually pull ABC's licenses they would have lost ABC also new this but fired him anyways, why? Can't be because of government pressure they could easily sue and win so it's not fear of Trump.