It's time to DEMOTE a few U.S. states

[madmac5150]

But aren't we already trying to remove the illeagle aliens? It took time to bring them in, it will take time to send them home.

Trying to remove them, and removing them are two different things. Activist judges stifle every real effort at enforcement... Each one of these "sanctuary states" are already in violation of federal law, yet nothing is done. The activists have made sure of that, and they continually ignore US immigration laws while expecting federal tax money... our money... to keep paying for their every need. This is Government sanctioned human trafficking for political gain.

Cut them off. Completely. Make them pay for the destruction they spread, not the rest of us.

[DennisR6]

Trying to remove them, and removing them are two different things. Activist judges stifle every real effort at enforcement... Each one of these "sanctuary states" are already in violation of federal law, yet nothing is done. The activists have made sure of that, and they continually ignore US immigration laws while expecting federal tax money... our money... to keep paying for their every need. This is Government sanctioned human trafficking for political gain.

Cut them off. Completely. Make them pay for the destruction they spread, not the rest of us.

You want to cut off the worst of the worst. Cut off those bleeding the system for personal wealth while at the same time destabilizing home and abroad. Funneling money from the fed into others personal bank account doesn't do anything to help.

Would it surprise you to know how much of Americas wealth resides thin the current administration?
Look it up and tell me who the bad guys really are. Unvetted and unleashed with impunity robbing every single person on here foreign or not.
That is a fact.
From west coast to east coast I could care less what people or the government of another state does. People can and do move and get elected and do what they want. They also get removed and sometimes an entire state can completely change. I don't fucking care either way as long as the government functions and rights are respected. As of right now I see a barely functioning government for the people. I see an oligarchy and dim witted people cheering on destitution.

[madmac5150]

You want to cut off the worst of the worst. Cut off those bleeding the system for personal wealth while at the same time destabilizing home and abroad. Funneling money from the fed into others personal bank account doesn't do anything to help.

Would it surprise you to know how much of Americas wealth resides thin the current administration?
Look it up and tell me who the bad guys really are. Unvetted and unleashed with impunity robbing every single person on here foreign or not.
That is a fact.
From west coast to east coast I could care less what people or the government of another state does. People can and do move and get elected and do what they want. They also get removed and sometimes an entire state can completely change. I don't fucking care either way as long as the government functions and rights are respected. As of right now I see a barely functioning government for the people. I see an oligarchy and dim witted people cheering on destitution.

Activist Congressional members always have incredible wealth gains while in office... from unemployed and penniless, to multi-millionaires in a single Congressional or Senatorial term. Ilhan Omar certainly got rich quickly.

Being President can be even more profitable... Obama certainly made a killing... as did Clinton and both Bushes.

Profiteering from elected office... on our backs.

They decry President Trump as being a billionaire... he already had his billions... and has lost, not made money as president. Somehow he is the problem?

We need a FULL audit of every single Congressperson, Senator, and the President as well... yearly. Published for all to see, every single October.

[DennisR6]

Activist Congressional members always have incredible wealth gains while in office... from unemployed and penniless, to multi-millionaires in a single Congressional or Senatorial term. Ilhan Omar certainly got rich quickly.

Being President can be even more profitable... Obama certainly made a killing... as did Clinton and both Bushes.

Profiteering from elected office... on our backs.

They decry President Trump as being a billionaire... he already had his billions... and has lost, not made money as president. Somehow he is the problem?

We need a FULL audit of every single Congressperson, Senator, and the President as well... yearly. Published for all to see, every single October.

Trump lost a great deal of personal wealth as did many of his business ventures during his 1st term. Covid did a number on the Trump brand.
But you may want to take a closer look at his capital gain/net worth so far in his 2nd term. It absolutely smashed historical records of any president by a mind boggling amount. 

I still agree with stopping the shenanigans that go on over on the hill.

[chr0naut]

I have heard calls for a "National Divorce" of sorts... "let's punt the socialist states out" (from the right) or "let's split to form our own utopian socialist society" (from the left). Probably not a great idea. If we were to kick CA, OR, and WA out of our union... they would quickly invite the Chinese Communists in to their little party.

I think a better idea (if it can be done at all) would be to demote those rogue states to U.S. territories.

The recent "elections" in California are a prime example of socialist rule. They have crafted their system to exclude anyone that doesn't play by their rules. Spencer Pratt was robbed of a chance to become mayor. People the voted for Mr. Pratt have been robbed of their rights to vote. Steve Hilton only survived the governor's race, because of the unwanted attention that the L.A. race had focused on the obvious chicanery. If California cannot secure a simple mayoral election, why the hell should we trust them in any national election?

What about all of those Constitution loving Californian's... the people that this would hurt the worst? They would suddenly have new options... conservative counties in the Territory of California could immediately petition to join a neighboring U.S State. The eastern parts of the Territories of Oregon and Washington could do the same.

Certainly the socialists will scream about a lack of representation... they still get seats in Congress, they can still act out their theatrics and get their likes on social media... that's all they care about. They just can't vote on anything. They won't allow their own citizens to have free voting rights, why should they get voting rights in national policy?

We could also tax those territorial governments at the same rates as they tax their citizenry. Tax them into the same submission that, they choose to inflict on their own "voters".

We can secure our rights to those Territories with military force, when needed. No Chinese or other foreign actors would be permitted a foothold on our territorial lands.

I think governments the states of CA, WA, OR, NY, MI, MN, DE, VA, IL, ME, VT, NC really need a little "time out"... let's sit them in a proverbial corner for awhile.

There are more than enough "red states" to make this happen, if it can be done. The "red counties" in those blue states will quickly jump ship. Isolate the socialists... let them have the urban hellscapes they have built for themselves, but nothing more.

Thoughts?

Make America Lesser Again.

LOL.

[chr0naut]

Trump lost a great deal of personal wealth as did many of his business ventures during his 1st term. Covid did a number on the Trump brand.
But you may want to take a closer look at his capital gain/net worth so far in his 2nd term. It absolutely smashed historical records of any president by a mind boggling amount. 

I still agree with stopping the shenanigans that go on over on the hill.

Some people's minds are easily boggled

[andy06shake]

I am not suggesting that the citizens lose their rights to vote. They can vote all they want. In blue counties they vote A LOT!

What I am saying, is to strip away their national representation.

These municipalities have denied their own citizens voices, in a quest to remain forever in power. Los Angeles is an absolute crap show. US citizens are denied services in favor of illegal immigrants. US citizens have fewer rights in Los Angeles, than criminals do. Poor neighborhoods are kept poor by keeping them uneducated, then polarized by constant talking points blaming "racism" and "straight white conservatives" for all of their community's issues. The rich stay rich by using their wealth to portray themselves as "saviors of democracy" and "the voice of reason" as they pilfer everything in sight.

How much money have all of these Democrats (and a few Republicans as well) "earned", by selling out to the highest bidder.

Our 250 year experiment hasn't failed at all... where it has been allowed to flourish. The only thing we failed at, was trusting our media to keep our government in line. They are getting rich, by pushing propaganda from one side alone... they claim to be the great voice of reason, while getting paid to shill endlessly.

Socialism has failed everywhere it has been tried... because only those in charge, or in good standing are allowed to prosper. The rest get to starve. They get imprisoned or murdered for daring to speak out. This has already happened here, under the Biden regime. How many people did real prison time, for simply supporting President Trump? I never thought I would see that happen in our incredible Constitutional Republic (not a democracy)... yet it did. The media applauded.

This is vile. This is disgusting. Everyone who supported those draconian measures to silence the free speech of American citizens... they should all bow in shame.

2020 was quite the wake-up call. The rest of us watched while these "blue states" denied all but those in power, of all of their Constitutional rights. The media championed all of it. Sickening.

I am not a Republican, I am an independent conservative. I served my country for more than 20 years. I took an oath to "Support and Defend the Constitution from ALL enemies... foreign and domestic"... I did not pledge an oath to ANY government, nor has any other member of the military actually pledged fealty to the government. We pledge ultimate fealty to the Constitution... which is why we obey the orders of those appointed by the Constitution to govern us.

Elected officials also take this oath. Very few seem to pay it any mind, and view it only as an obstacle to their power and wealth. Any elected official that seeks to destroy this Constitution, or denies any citizenry rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, should be impeached and punished by flogging. Televised.

If the California "vote counters" continually rig elections, they should absolutely be excluded from deciding national elections. The same goes for the rest of the little socialist enclaves in any of the "Peoples Democracies" that seek to alter national policy to serve the wealthy socialists that run these places... or their Chinese masters. Enough is enough. Fire the kleptocrats in charge, return to common sense voting laws, or go scream in the corners by yourselves.

This 250 year old Constitutional Republic (again, not a democracy) isn't in any danger of failing. To be sure, we got some cancer... and socialism is just that... Cancers can be excised, and usually go away if kept from spreading.

Sounds like you lost an argument with reality and decided to blame entire cities, immigrants, socialism, the media, China, and election workers before checking a single fact.

"I support the Constitution" quickly becomes "strip people of representation if they vote the wrong way," which is a strange definition of a constitutional government.

And your claim that Trump supporters were imprisoned merely for supporting Trump is fantasy dressed up as patriotism.

Calling every political opponent a socialist while demanding public floggings is also an impressive lack of self-awareness.

If hypocrisy generated electricity

That rant could power Los Angeles for a decade....

The funniest part is the constant insistence that America is "not a democracy."

That's like saying, "I'm not eating a sandwich, I'm eating bread with stuff in the middle."

A constitutional republic is a form of representative democracy. 

Your entire argument boils down to "People should have the right to vote, but their votes shouldn't count if I don't like the outcome."

Which amounts to throwing a tantrum because you don't like the results.

Good luck treating millions of your fellow Americans as enemies because they live in cities and vote differently.
 
That's not strength, by the way, it's fear pretending to be conviction...

[chr0naut]

Should one amputate their foot because it isn't a hand?

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

A constitutional republic is a form of representative democracy. 

Your entire argument boils down to "People should have the right to vote, but their votes shouldn't count if I don't like the outcome."

Which amounts to throwing a tantrum because you don't like the results.

Good luck treating millions of your fellow Americans as enemies because they live in cities and vote differently.
 
That's not strength, by the way, it's fear pretending to be conviction...

I think the REAL reason is only said as a counter to criticism when The Trump administration does something we get triggered by. More based on The Law of Retribution than is readily said.

It is "fear of a woke planet," which is exactly like Fear of a Black Planet, only Chuck D isn't the Public Enemy for being black anymore... until he supports black lives matter, Palestine, LGBT, open borders, critical race theory, or post-colonialism, then he is again! (Especially if all at once!)

[KTemplar]

Madmac5150


You forgot Massachusetts!