It's time to DEMOTE a few U.S. states

[DennisR6]

It appears to me that some not all but some of the always Trump crowd have become so attached to a false identity that even as they say they love our government they will welcome authoritarianism so long as it fits in the hive mind they have.

It's put on full display here and elsewhere. 

I do want to give a disclaimer here. The left has PLENTY of glaring problems. More than I would like to list, so please view this as a criticism.

[DennisR6]

I may be retired, but I still take my oath to the Constitution very seriously. I already live in a deep red area... I have zero reason to move. When the rest of us lose our right to self-determination by socialist idiots in New York and California, well we have a right to have that grievance heard! That is the core principle of our freedoms... and the rights of the States.

West Virginia was born of this right to self-determination... northern/western Virginians did not want slavery, yet the slave hungry Democrat Virginia government didn't agree. They were granted statehood by a Republican... to end Democrat slavery in what is now WV.

There is absolutely precedent.

Why should I, in Kentucky, be required by law to accept the mutilation of our children to appease the latest celebrity cause?

I agree with pretty much everything you rightfully point out, aside from the whole screw em kick em out part.
That is one of the many great things about America. We are so much different from one another that we have states that have their own constitution and counties and cities that have different codes and laws respectfully. And the respectfully part is what needs to be remembered and followed.
Texas and Cali are a good example as of late. Cali has some serious financial issues that need to be addressed and IMO they are, but that takes time. It is much easier for private people and businesses to move then to change laws and such. So we are still witnessing a exodus from some tech bros and other industry leaders from Cali to Texas and Florida.
And some people are also leaving those states. 
We are allowed to have differences, hell I am almost certain that is a expectation. So love the difference and enjoy the debate. What happens will happen but to start exiling states will only hurt the republic, not strengthen.

And again just my 2 cents

[madmac5150]

Oh yeah, that makes America a more Representative Republic...   Strip the national representation from all the places that are too far left.  Fuck their elected representative government if it deemed too "socialist"...

 That's NO LONGER AMERICA. Its over if that is populism now. 

But, lets ask EVIL Google anyway. 

Question:  What type of government argues that states that are too close to socialists should be stripped to their National representation? 

Answer: 

NOPE!

You clearly drink from the same well as the criminals that run your state... the criminals that own Google drink from that same well.

Have your stupid little socialist ideals, support the socialists in charge... and when they burn down YOUR home through negligence and inaction, how will you feel?

Will your Ivy league education and 8 figure net worth save you? It certainly hasn't helped any of the victims in the Palisades. 

Enjoy your socialism. Drink from your well.

I shall no longer concern myself with anymore of your nonsense.

The rest of us shouldn't either.

[madmac5150]

I agree with pretty much everything you rightfully point out, aside from the whole screw em kick em out part.
That is one of the many great things about America. We are so much different from one another that we have states that have their own constitution and counties and cities that have different codes and laws respectfully. And the respectfully part is what needs to be remembered and followed.
Texas and Cali are a good example as of late. Cali has some serious financial issues that need to be addressed and IMO they are, but that takes time. It is much easier for private people and businesses to move then to change laws and such. So we are still witnessing a exodus from some tech bros and other industry leaders from Cali to Texas and Florida.
And some people are also leaving those states. 
We are allowed to have differences, hell I am almost certain that is a expectation. So love the difference and enjoy the debate. What happens will happen but to start exiling states will only hurt the republic, not strengthen.

And again just my 2 cents

I do not want them kicked out. I want to put them on supervised probation. We do that to criminals all of the time. Rehabilitate and reintegrate.

[DennisR6]

I do not want them kicked out. I want to put them on supervised probation. We do that to criminals all of the time. Rehabilitate and reintegrate.

As long as it is legal, more specifically not lawfare. I think collectively I can speak for all and say we are all tired of that crap.

[madmac5150]

It appears to me that some not all but some of the always Trump crowd have become so attached to a false identity that even as they say they love our government they will welcome authoritarianism so long as it fits in the hive mind they have.

It's put on full display here and elsewhere. 

I do want to give a disclaimer here. The left has PLENTY of glaring problems. More than I would like to list, so please view this as a criticism.

President Trump is an outsider to the game. That is where the hate for him started... he is upsetting all of their little apple carts.

I didn't vote for President Trump because I particularly care for him personally. Dude can be a narcissistic jerk, to be sure... If I need to hire a lawyer, I am not going to hire a nice guy... I'm gonna hire a brilliant, cunning a$$hole to fight for me. That is why I voted for the man.

He may not be the guy that we all want, but he is absolutely the guy we need at this moment in time.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Why are we even discussing this? The money making companies are leaving the liberal strongholds already. They are loosing their tax base. They are wrecking their economies. 

Just give them some time and the locals will remove them or string them up. That assumes a fair election. California is proving that to be iffy at best.

[madmac5150]

Why are we even discussing this? The money making companies are leaving the liberal strongholds already. They are loosing their tax base. They are wrecking their economies. 

Just give them some time and the locals will remove them or string them up. That assumes a fair election. California is proving that to be iffy at best.

The locals are being replaced by illegals beholden to the left. They call them "sanctuary states" for that reason... the locals are being replaced with a more subservient constituency.

How many illegals have flooded CA in recent years? How much of our money has been used to lure them here? How much do the rest of us have to keep sending to CA as "federal assistance"?

[BeyondKnowledge]

The locals are being replaced by illegals beholden to the left. They call them "sanctuary states" for that reason... the locals are being replaced with a more subservient constituency.

How many illegals have flooded CA in recent years? How much of our money has been used to lure them here? How much do the rest of us have to keep sending to CA as "federal assistance"?

But aren't we already trying to remove the illeagle aliens? It took time to bring them in, it will take time to send them home.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

I do not want them kicked out. I want to put them on supervised probation. We do that to criminals all of the time. Rehabilitate and reintegrate.

Lol.  Well, good luck with that!  

May you force assimilate ALL the wicked progressives in New England, on the West Coast, and in The Great Lakes! 

Clean our sinful wounds!

Teach us our lesson for the vaccines, immigrant sanctuaries, and gender neutral pronouns...