04-09-2025, 12:16 PM
Halley's Comet is a fake?
I had always taken the simple facts of Halley’s Comet at face value from the “authorities.” An orbit of about 80 years certainly seemed correct. By astronomical standards, it is a bit oddly long, but acceptable by one and all. A member of the “short-period” comets can be expected to wheel across the sky in orbits from about two years up to two hundred years, or so they say. Halley’s orbital time of around 80 years, is way longer than most short-period comets, but yet less than half of what it could be. So, it remains stuck in the middle which still makes it unusual.
But working with the sungrazers “orbital” times left me wondering if our concept of Halley’s motion was not a genuine orbit as we are told but merely a necessary explanation. When coupled with the many strange accounts from early astronomy books about that body, I suspect that we are not told the truth about that aspect either. It also is unique that it seems to have a penchant for coming close to our orbital pathway around the sun.
What raised my suspicions about the comet in the beginning, was the striking similarity of the orbital times between it and the Kreutz group. The evidence seems to show that they orbit between their home star and ours in about 83 years periods. Halley’s motion takes it right around that amount of time going nowhere—or?
I think that issue can be solved with a simple test. As mentioned, the sungrazers come from one small spot in the neighborhood of Sirius. (The relationship with Sirius may be more of a convenient association than factual as it is the brightest star in the sky and easy to spot and plot upon.) Nonetheless, the comets emit from and return to that one small spot.
Halley’s Comet has a motion, a calculated, assumed orbit. Frequently, that feature is displayed for us as a drawn-out ellipse that carries it out of our sight and far beyond Neptune where it eventually turns around at its empty elliptic aperihelion position and returns to us. We are supposed to believe that Halley’s orbit is a creation of the forces of our sun as the comet originally dove down into the inner system from the “Oort Cloud.” It has been captured therein for at least 16 orbits of approximately 80 years which places it in our local skies back to about the 13[sup]th[/sup] century. So trapped, it is subject only to the forces and masses thereof. Or maybe not. A closer examination is required.
A natural body, orbiting freely within the solar system and encumbered with an exceptionally long elliptical orbit will have its aperihelion focus point continually shifting. Gravitational influences from the larger planets, solar pressure, etc., make themselves felt as that body moves among the larger ones in the system. Halley has passed through them unscathed for hundreds of years. As nature would have it, minor alterations happen to that long, slim “orbit”, but never with disastrous consequences during the 16 times (at the least) we have witnessed the grand show. Most changes are slight, of no consequence, merely a shift in its aperihelion to another empty spot in the dark sky, if it is a lifeless body.
However, if Halley’s is from a distant star and returns to it at each rotation, as the sungrazers return to their star, the supposed point of aperihelion, its orbital motion inside our system, will always shift to point toward that star’s position as ever so slowly our system rotates against the movement of the galaxy and/or combined with that star’s individual movement.
In practice, if we bunch orbital pathways of Halley’s many moves out to the depths of space toward the aperihelion of its ellipse, they should either always go to one point, likely a star, or each outward going will be a different angle. The one would show intelligence, the other would be simply nature.
However, there is another possibility that must be considered. Halley’s may be anchored to its current orbit which has unusual parameters, and maybe placed there, but not aimed at some far-off star, but simply doing nothing less than our satellites do in their orbits. Meaning it was placed to be a constant, watchful eye over earth and our system.
Regardless of what you acquired or lost here (time?) I make no excuses for any display of ignorance herein. I may be done.
I had always taken the simple facts of Halley’s Comet at face value from the “authorities.” An orbit of about 80 years certainly seemed correct. By astronomical standards, it is a bit oddly long, but acceptable by one and all. A member of the “short-period” comets can be expected to wheel across the sky in orbits from about two years up to two hundred years, or so they say. Halley’s orbital time of around 80 years, is way longer than most short-period comets, but yet less than half of what it could be. So, it remains stuck in the middle which still makes it unusual.
But working with the sungrazers “orbital” times left me wondering if our concept of Halley’s motion was not a genuine orbit as we are told but merely a necessary explanation. When coupled with the many strange accounts from early astronomy books about that body, I suspect that we are not told the truth about that aspect either. It also is unique that it seems to have a penchant for coming close to our orbital pathway around the sun.
What raised my suspicions about the comet in the beginning, was the striking similarity of the orbital times between it and the Kreutz group. The evidence seems to show that they orbit between their home star and ours in about 83 years periods. Halley’s motion takes it right around that amount of time going nowhere—or?
I think that issue can be solved with a simple test. As mentioned, the sungrazers come from one small spot in the neighborhood of Sirius. (The relationship with Sirius may be more of a convenient association than factual as it is the brightest star in the sky and easy to spot and plot upon.) Nonetheless, the comets emit from and return to that one small spot.
Halley’s Comet has a motion, a calculated, assumed orbit. Frequently, that feature is displayed for us as a drawn-out ellipse that carries it out of our sight and far beyond Neptune where it eventually turns around at its empty elliptic aperihelion position and returns to us. We are supposed to believe that Halley’s orbit is a creation of the forces of our sun as the comet originally dove down into the inner system from the “Oort Cloud.” It has been captured therein for at least 16 orbits of approximately 80 years which places it in our local skies back to about the 13[sup]th[/sup] century. So trapped, it is subject only to the forces and masses thereof. Or maybe not. A closer examination is required.
A natural body, orbiting freely within the solar system and encumbered with an exceptionally long elliptical orbit will have its aperihelion focus point continually shifting. Gravitational influences from the larger planets, solar pressure, etc., make themselves felt as that body moves among the larger ones in the system. Halley has passed through them unscathed for hundreds of years. As nature would have it, minor alterations happen to that long, slim “orbit”, but never with disastrous consequences during the 16 times (at the least) we have witnessed the grand show. Most changes are slight, of no consequence, merely a shift in its aperihelion to another empty spot in the dark sky, if it is a lifeless body.
However, if Halley’s is from a distant star and returns to it at each rotation, as the sungrazers return to their star, the supposed point of aperihelion, its orbital motion inside our system, will always shift to point toward that star’s position as ever so slowly our system rotates against the movement of the galaxy and/or combined with that star’s individual movement.
In practice, if we bunch orbital pathways of Halley’s many moves out to the depths of space toward the aperihelion of its ellipse, they should either always go to one point, likely a star, or each outward going will be a different angle. The one would show intelligence, the other would be simply nature.
However, there is another possibility that must be considered. Halley’s may be anchored to its current orbit which has unusual parameters, and maybe placed there, but not aimed at some far-off star, but simply doing nothing less than our satellites do in their orbits. Meaning it was placed to be a constant, watchful eye over earth and our system.
Regardless of what you acquired or lost here (time?) I make no excuses for any display of ignorance herein. I may be done.
Intelligence seeks to proliferate itself
not necessarily via its own kind.
not necessarily via its own kind.
