It Is Time to Focus on Comets

[Maxmars]

        I’m sorry for the delay, life outside our interests usually has its way with us.
 
Some readers may want to fault me for starting the thread in a personal narrative rather than specifically keeping to cometary data.  I can understand that position, but in general, we are dealing with the whole package of what is the cosmos and how it works—not how we were taught how to accept and understand it.  Specifically, we want to believe what authority figures have told us about comets.  We have little reason to doubt their words unless we seriously think about the implications or not of what they pass down to us, and/or know otherwise from personal experience.    Some people like to call it “thinking outside of the box.”  I call it forward-thinking.  There is probably not one area of human activity that is not influenced or controlled in some fashion.  The will and means to do that is human nature, and also, may be subject to outside influences.

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[AlienSun]

Oh, interesting. I always assumed the Oort Cloud was, like, an actual thing. It turns out it's a placeholder idea, with no evidence it exists. Well, other than the standard "we assume it exists even though there's no evidence because if it doesn't our theories don't make sense and we really want our theories to make sense".

DI Comets From Deep Space

When textbooks and the internet get into the subject of comets, they go overboard on telling us about the so-called Oort Cloud.  Envisioned in 1955 by the Dutch astronomer Oort, it attempted to explain the appearance of new comets.  It remains, if only for public consumption, as an explanation for comets, those few we see, and those billions and trillions imagined. 
New comets come from any quarter in the sky.  To explain that fact, Oort reasoned that our solar system is surrounded with a shell of comets out far beyond Neptune and perhaps out to a light-year distance away.  He suggested that comets were nothing more than debris, remnants of the early solar sphere.  They never got sucked down into being parts of the planets, asteroids, or the parent sun itself.  Perhaps he had an explanation of how they came to be from a specific outer, fringe ball while everything else in our system moved in a relatively flat plane.  Or perhaps that point was ignored for the sake of his premise.
However, when thought of as captives from the sun’s early existence, there is no question of where long-period and short-period comets originate.  Problem solved.  However, if one questions the existence of comets based on other data, that alternative may be more conclusive to a better understanding of their true nature.  (No doubt that study has been done on the sly.)  However, casual efforts by anyone with a comet catalog allow some success simply by reversing the aphelion point of the alleged orbit (closest point to the sun) to find that the far-end focus of the orbit points toward stars in the general vicinity of the point of origination. 
Several interesting factors arise if that process is done.   Most apparent, is long-period comets tend to come from all around the heavens, top to bottom.  Thus, the must-have logic behind Oort’s global theory.  Second, they tend to come from areas of more stars than from less dense areas.  Third, surprisingly, if we are also looking for the home place ends of short-period comets, when normally we would have no inclination to do so, we find that they tend to also gather exactly in those unique areas.  Why would that be?
Very curiously, a fourth factor emerges, we find that comets tend to mass in areas of deep space, places rich in emissions from pulsars, quasars and other types of mysterious signals.  Yes.  We must assume the impossible.  Space is fully alive with intelligent actions by beings that make us pretty damned insignificant.    
(For those always interested in the deeper secrets of pulsars and their true purpose, I suggest an online paper entitled  Pulsar Positioning System: A quest for evidence of extraterrestrial engineering, by Clement Vidal at the University of Belgium.  Also printed in v2.0, 15 Oct 2017 to appear in the International Journal of Astrobiology.   I seriously doubt that either version of the 49 pages is findable.)

[UltraBudgie]

Second, they tend to come from areas of more stars than from less dense areas. Third, surprisingly, if we are also looking for the home place ends of short-period comets, when normally we would have no inclination to do so, we find that they tend to also gather exactly in those unique areas. Why would that be?

The only explanation I can think of that fits the Oort model is gravitation perturbation. But that would really only be affected by nearby stars, not far away clusters. And that also assumes some kind of stable orbit of the would-be comet at a fixed radius from the Sun, which is then "tipped" into a Solar orbit by the changing gravity field. Or, perhaps whatever put the comets in the Oort cloud in the first place is a process that originates from denser areas of stellar matter. But that would contradict Oort's origin hypothesis. Hmm. Sketchy explanations either way. Good catch.

(For those always interested in the deeper secrets of pulsars and their true purpose, I suggest an online paper entitled  Pulsar Positioning System: A quest for evidence of extraterrestrial engineering, by Clement Vidal at the University of Belgium.  Also printed in v2.0, 15 Oct 2017 to appear in the International Journal of Astrobiology.   I seriously doubt that either version of the 49 pages is findable.)

Archived PDF: https://web.archive.org/web/202205031214...eering.pdf

[AlienSun]

Further in the Comet Question
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Comets are not as numerous as one may believe. As of June 2008, the Catalogue of Cometary Orbits published by the International Astronomical Union reported 3708 apparitions have been collected.  This number is the entire history of reported and verified sights.  --Many of those 3708 are repeated returns of short-period comets with orbits of four out to a couple of hundred years. 

Interestingly, a few new short-period comets are discovered every year.  They suddenly appear in mysterious, shallow orbits to be counted and some disappear just as mysteriously.

The long-period comets that gain the most attention are seemingly new arrivals into our inner system.  They may not be bigger than the short-period members, but they tend to enter our "goldilocks" area, closer to the sun, and may appear every decade or so.  Over the course of the human nothing such wonders in the sky and keeping some record of the event, their total appearances number only about a thousand for all time.
As mentioned in an earlier segment, long-period comets come from every quarter of the heavens.  By rough estimates of originations, I cannot point to any particular stars as the senders, but merely point out a small area.  My professional star chart has too many stars in that area to show convergence to any.

Neither are the aphelion of arriving comes hard-and-fast points of reference as many times the officials report that they find coming and going pathways have changed, --adjusted we should say.  They never explain how that can happen, because it shouldn't happen in normal, uncontrolled physics.

My early interest in comets was totally captured as I read professional works that mention and described "sungrazer" comets.  These are the long-period comets that brush against the deadly forces of the sun's outer layers.  The resulting comas and ion emissions are often breathtaking.  The most noteworthy of the sungrazers is the "Kreutz Group."  They have sent more comets this way than any others.  Charting their arrival times from the late 1800s to the present can be interesting.

[Robbo2006]

Someone threw a snowball at me once.

It had twigs and leaves in it.

So you don’t remember the impact of a rock moments before that 

[Robbo2006]

Someone threw a snowball at me once.

It had twigs and leaves in it.

So you don’t remember the impact of a rock moments before that 

[Roma]

OP, you mentioned the electrical universe.  This is a concept I'm not wholly familiar with.  The first thing that comes to mind is (Nikola) Tesla's zero point energy, and why this technology was never released.  If it even exists, that is.  Could it be greed, pure and simple?  Or something more to it than that?

I've always found that subject interesting.

Cheers.

[AlienSun]

April 4, 2025
My endeavor here is to enlighten DI membership about the true nature of our scientific foundation and the tailored reality science and government spin over us to keep us under control .  My laid-back approach was too weak and not seriously presented well enough for many to really consider the entire situation which is crucial.  I have  two goals, to unlearn you of what you were taught to believe about comets and to make you suspect anything forced upon you by outside influences even when such seemed harmless. 
This situation is exactly the same as has been the case with the entire UFO situation, a reluctance of the entire stable of humanities, governments and public alike, to accept a full-in-your face reality.  In addition, we have a similar situation with their ignoring the evidence of “ancient civilizations” which is directly coupled with our entire human existence.  The complete picture will likely include these and other things in relationship with the appearances of those things we call comets.
I apologize for the drastic error of repeatedly and wrongly using “aperihelion“ and perihelion for the other. 
I have, this morning, looked over a chapter of my unfinished work entitled “Halley’s Comet.”  It goes into detail about the 1910 return and what mysterious features and operations the foremost astronomers around the world noted within the coma.  At 2500 words it is probably too long for DE tastes.  Perhaps you can reckon why the US failed to join the international consortium that sent probes to the comet.  But as for what they allowed you to see with modern devices up close? The very same old, over-developed type of photo images of over a hundred years ago.  Ain’t technology wonderful?    

[AlienSun]

Comets are frequent mysterious beasts in our skies, especially at nighttime.  They elicited ominous interpretations from old-world populations.  Today, we gaze at their beauty in wonder.  But then, we do not quite understand them, either.  So let us take a closer look.
I underwent a UFO time-loss period in 1964.  Always interested in astronomy and the “flying saucers,” I found after a few months of that event that I keenly wanted to study the heavens to determine from where these UFOs originated.
At that time, in 1965, I searched the local libraries for relevant books on the heavens and found a wealth of astronomical books in lending libraries, even in observatory libraries out of my state.  I cannot say what I was exactly looking for, but I loved picking up the old volumes as they were shipping to my library.  What I found old in the old volumes recorded by astronomers were their pen and ink drawings of comets which were far superior in detail than photographic prints that began in the late 1890s.  The ink art displayed incredible detail that got washed out of the photographs—and that situation has continued to this very day (when it truly need not be the case).  Drawings, from those old books, from various astronomers of the inner nucleus activity of Comet Halley in 1910 captured my interest.  --What was going on inside that envelope?
One drawing led to another until I gained a sense of order in some of the drawings.  That indicated intelligent actions, not mere acts of nature.  How could that be?  Those bodies were virtually at death’s door moving as they did so close to the sun.  nonetheless, my instincts told me to press on.  Eventually, I evolved what I call the “cometship” theory that grew into a long, continuous obsession.
I tried to write out the affair but lacked the education.  Several other things were also going on in my life but by 1976 I had a university diploma under my belt and attempted another effort of writing.  I got to 42,000 words but other things got more attention, and the whole issue was put aside for decades.  I had my answer, the rest of the world could wait.  Now, just after my 87[sup]th[/sup] birthday, it is now or never.
I was on ATS back in 2017 when AstroEngineer made his debut and was roughly treated by those wanting to silence him.  I expect here about the same treatment.
The next time you see a comet image with an ion “tail” spread out in a counter-sunward angle consider that is merely a course-correction maneuver to get it perfectly aligned for its return shot home.  The so-called Oort Cloud was invented only to explain long-period comets and for no other reason.

Lastly, current science would have you accept that a comet can fall from the very outer reaches of our solar system and magically round around the sun at close range and then head precisely back along its incoming track (toward its home light-years away, never falling directly into the sun).  Almost magical, is it not when we never expect such on a single one of any of our missions to anywhere.    
Deny Comets

It Is Time to Focus on Comets
Comets are frequent mysterious beasts in our skies, especially at nighttime.  They elicited ominous interpretations from old-world populations.  Today, we gaze at their beauty in wonder.  But then, we do not quite understand them, either.  So let us take a closer look.
I underwent a UFO time-loss period in 1964.  Always interested in astronomy and the “flying saucers,” I found after a few months of that event that I keenly wanted to study the heavens to determine from where these UFOs originated.
At that time, in 1965, I searched the local libraries for relevant books on the heavens and found a wealth of astronomical books in lending libraries, even in observatory libraries out of my state.  I cannot say what I was exactly looking for, but I loved picking up the old volumes as they were shipping to my library.  What I found old in the old volumes recorded by astronomers were their pen and ink drawings of comets which were far superior in detail than photographic prints that began in the late 1890s.  The ink art displayed incredible detail that got washed out of the photographs—and that situation has continued to this very day (when it truly need not be the case).  Drawings, from those old books, from various astronomers of the inner nucleus activity of Comet Halley in 1910 captured my interest.  --What was going on inside that envelope?
One drawing led to another until I gained a sense of order in some of the drawings.  That indicated intelligent actions, not mere acts of nature.  How could that be?  Those bodies were virtually at death’s door moving as they did so close to the sun.  nonetheless, my instincts told me to press on.  Eventually, I evolved what I call the “cometship” theory that grew into a long, continuous obsession.
I tried to write out the affair but lacked the education.  Several other things were also going on in my life but by 1976 I had a university diploma under my belt and attempted another effort of writing.  I got to 42,000 words but other things got more attention, and the whole issue was put aside for decades.  I had my answer, the rest of the world could wait.  Now, just after my 87[sup]th[/sup] birthday, it is now or never.
I was on ATS back in 2017 when AstroEngineer made his debut and was roughly treated by those wanting to silence him.  I expect here about the same treatment.
The next time you see a comet image with an ion “tail” spread out in a counter-sunward angle consider that is merely a course-correction maneuver to get it perfectly aligned for its return shot home.  The so-called Oort Cloud was invented only to explain long-period comets and for no other reason.

Lastly, current science would have you accept that a comet can fall from the very outer reaches of our solar system and magically round around the sun at close range and then head precisely back along its incoming track (toward its home light-years away, never falling directly into the sun).  Almost magical, is it not when we never expect such on a single one of any of our missions to anywhere.    

[AlienSun]

Sungrazers from Sirius

I don’t recall using the word “alien” in these pages in reference to comets.   I started off calling them, “the  UFO of deep space,” but the word “UFO” seems too drastic since we are so familiar with this phenomenon.  And the term has a built-in bias of fear tucked inside.  More importantly to not using the word, is the evident fact that comets have been with us for a long time.  My personal belief is that everything of our beautiful earth, including its wonderful diversity of life from the smallest cell to the largest is the result of intelligent activity.  The current human form is virtually perfect in essence, but with flaws, was the designer’s ultimate goal. 
I have been fairly general in my concepts because I’m not a scientist nor claim to be.  I don’t have the structured mind that is required.  Plus, the box of conformity just wouldn’t fit.  I like the term “forward thinking.”  It grants the necessary license of freedom. 
There are many reasons why the average person may come up with a slew of objections about comets being vehicles.  There was a period of time in the 1970s or so when space habits were strongly considered to be viable and practical for human domains, virtually ready-made and already free-floating, but such talk disappeared.  I wonder why?  I went through all reasons why comets could not be utilized for space travel, but everywhere there was a gap in conventionality that allowed a gasp of fresh air that brought new directions away from the staid lock on “manmade.”
When I first started working with my theory, the more or less official source for cometary facts was the Catalogue of Cometary Orbits by Brian G. Marsden, second edition, 1975.  Later issues were of 1997 and 2008. These days the material is free, on-line, but extremely difficult for the average lay person to utilize.    

.  The early version listed eight sungrazers which I used to make some determinations of them coming from one point in space.  These are called the Kruetz Group.  We are supposed to accept that this group and any group from other directions, and there are several these days, are nothing more than a single, huge bodies that fell out of a Oort orbit and broke apart as they plunged inward along their pathways coming down to the sun.  I see it as something like, “We have a situation here, let’s invent a cause.”
In the course of my finding a reason for that group, I did a simple listing of the year of the arrival times at the sun for each member.  Something seemed uncanny.  Expecting a natural randomness, I found a pattern instead.  Three of the sungazers were separated from later arrivals by 83 years.
Year of discover:
1660
1843
1880 returns in 83 years to be 1963
1882 returns in 83 years to be 1995
1886
1887 returns in 83 years to be 1970
1945
1963 formerly 1880
1965 formerly 1882
1970 formerly 1887
1998 formerly 1963 and before that 1880
2006 formerly 1965 and before that was 1882
2007 formerly 1970 and before that was 1887

The near-point of origin for the group is Sirius, the brightest star in the sky.  In UFO quarters, the star is cited in Robert K. G. Temple’s 11976 book, The Sirius Mystery.  He cites tribal stories of the East African Dogon.  They embrace beliefs and factual knowledge about the star that they had no way of gaining.  Their accounts claim that beings came down from the star and gave them information that got enculturated with them.

Sirius is 8.611 light years away.  If a round trip between Sol and Sirius is 83 years in comet time, one leg of that trip would be about 41.5 years.  My wild guess suggests a velocity of around 20% SOL.  That seems a modest amount for a moderately advanced space civilization.  As for factors of the crew, we can only guess:  Were these ships manned, unmanned freighters or had a more exotic explanation?  —In my earlier thread on the “wrist bracelets of ETs,” as repeatedly shown in old civilizations, I suggested that the ETs have the capabilities to stop time because that ability has been illustrated many times in close encounter UFO cases on earth.  Seemingly, that seemingly impossible process is  a much-utilized ability by UFO folk.
As for the sungrazers, the more recent on-line publication of the comet catalogue mentions that several other sungrazers groups have been discovered and named.  These would be from other definite points in space and in keeping with concepts of multiple civilizations on other stars.  A possibility that we need to appreciate as somewhat explaining the various types of UFO ships we recognize visiting us. 
Be aware that the number of  13 sungrazers that appear on my list as the original ones has greatly increased in the last few decades (in addition to UFO sightings)  for some reason.  –Perhaps the use of nuclear physics has called forth a closer inspection of earth’s situation?  (Be aware that new technologies now look at the sun and count space debris that falls into it as a type of “sungrazer” of which there are many thousands of no interest except perhaps as a need for diversion.)