Is it time DI tackles the whole P. Diddy thing?

[sahgwa]

There's is a thing about making stuff secret that also makes it more appealing to others.

Here's something I've found while poking around.
Sunset of the Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn – Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn (osogd.org)
They believe that they are successor to the infamous Order of the Golden Dawn that Alister Crowley was once the head master of. Here's their posting in 2019:

Now I'm not sure if this group really does have any connection to the one from 100 years ago or not, but I do know that it didn't shut down it just went Non-Public about what it does. So, when it comes to cults, secrecy is just a piece of the appeal. 


This Combs thing is either going to get lost in the news cycle or will need to have something or guidelines like ATS Mods did for P-Gate and Epstein. Combs is already heading in both of those directions, not to mention the videos that are already going around with underaged folks (both boys and girls) taking drugged part in the activities on those tapes.

I am just reading this thread from the beginning so apologies on bringing up a post from half a year ago, but why are you bringing up some random western hermetic order out of the blue in regards to the hip hop 'artist' Sean combs?  Am I missing some connection you have found? 

Regarding P Diddy, he already got in criminal trouble for abuse against his girl friend or something years ago, didn't he?
So if any of this current malfeasance is true of course I hope him and any accomplices get hard jail time. 


This is the best part of this thread:

"SH0CKING NEWS: Beyoncé alleges that Diddy has been secretly hiding Michael Jackson, who faked his death. With video evidence to back her statement, Beyoncé promises to reveal proof that the King of Pop is still alive and living in Diddy's mansion."

[guyfriday]

I am just reading this thread from the beginning so apologies on bringing up a post from half a year ago, but why are you bringing up some random western hermetic order out of the blue in regards to the hip hop 'artist' Sean combs?  Am I missing some connection you have found? 

Regarding P Diddy, he already got in criminal trouble for abuse against his girl friend or something years ago, didn't he?
So if any of this current malfeasance is true of course I hope him and any accomplices get hard jail time. 


This is the best part of this thread:

My point was that Combs is no different than Epstein was in relations to being nothing but a sex cult. The actions Combs took and the dress attire that he demanded of certain people attending his parties so closely reflects the Order of the Golden Dawn that we shouldn't rule out that Combs is a member of the current version of them. The connections is the ceremony like way in which Combs did things that is the connections. If two animals are flying around and drinking from a hummingbird feeder, then we can make a connection that they are at least the same type of animal. The Order of the Golden Dawn and Combs are either together or are acting as if they are.

[sahgwa]

My point was that Combs is no different than Epstein was in relations to being nothing but a sex cult. The actions Combs took and the dress attire that he demanded of certain people attending his parties so closely reflects the Order of the Golden Dawn that we shouldn't rule out that Combs is a member of the current version of them. The connections is the ceremony like way in which Combs did things that is the connections. If two animals are flying around and drinking from a hummingbird feeder, then we can make a connection that they are at least the same type of animal. The Order of the Golden Dawn and Combs are either together or are acting as if they are.

OK I have read Regardies book of the Golden Dawn rituals and I am also in an order which has a similar degree structure to the GD, and I can tell you unequivocally that the GD was not a 'sex cult' roflmao. 
If some rich bored guy wants to use a costume design reminiscent of their robes or something that has nothing to do with the Order itself.
You are saying that if I walk around as a Scientologist for a Halloween party that I really am a Scientologist and have their inner beliefs.

[guyfriday]

OK I have read Regardies book of the Golden Dawn rituals and I am also in an order which has a similar degree structure to the GD, and I can tell you unequivocally that the GD was not a 'sex cult' roflmao. 
If some rich bored guy wants to use a costume design reminiscent of their robes or something that has nothing to do with the Order itself.
You are saying that if I walk around as a Scientologist for a Halloween party that I really am a Scientologist and have their inner beliefs.

you might think that, but facts and records say differently. The main branch of the OGD was mutated if you will into a sudo-sex cult while Crowley was in charge of it. This sexual cult got held over by both Jack Parsons and picked up by L Ron Hubbard back then. The orgy ritual described by some of the people that attended Combs parties, resembles enough of Crowley's time as the head of OGD to lead one to think that they might be connected in some way. Let's not forget that this is the same group, Combs peoples, that take part in the Soul Cooking rituals as well. 

The sect of OGD that you are/were part of might not have done the sexual route, maybe they went back to the founding rites, but don't dismiss the fact that both Combs and OGD have very over lapping rituals going on. 

If you really want to get into all this, Combs parties are a corruption of the Ritual of the Miricale of Orleans. Which was/is used by OGD as recently as the early 2000s.

[Mantiss2021]

This all sounds like a "modernized" version of the age-old Bohemian Club shenanigans.


The more things change, the more they stay the same!

[sahgwa]

you might think that, but facts and records say differently. The main branch of the OGD was mutated if you will into a sudo-sex cult while Crowley was in charge of it. This sexual cult got held over by both Jack Parsons and picked up by L Ron Hubbard back then. The orgy ritual described by some of the people that attended Combs parties, resembles enough of Crowley's time as the head of OGD to lead one to think that they might be connected in some way. Let's not forget that this is the same group, Combs peoples, that take part in the Soul Cooking rituals as well. 

The sect of OGD that you are/were part of might not have done the sexual route, maybe they went back to the founding rites, but don't dismiss the fact that both Combs and OGD have very over lapping rituals going on. 

If you really want to get into all this, Combs parties are a corruption of the Ritual of the Miricale of Orleans. Which was/is used by OGD as recently as the early 2000s.

As an initiate of an order that has a lineage traced back to the Golden Dawn I can tell you that you are spouting absolute rubbish.  
The word is psuedo, by the way, not sudo.
I have extensive primary source records from the time period and no where is mentioned anything of the nature you are claiming.
Perhaps your OGD is something separate?

The original Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was broken up in around 1903 and splintered.  Crowley was never head of the Order nor 'in charge of it' he was a Probationer and Neophyte and left when the other members would not tender his grade paperworks after completing his work.  
He founded the Ordo A.:.A.:. with friend George Cecil Jones in 1905.  
Anything that the many and multitude splinter groups of the Golden Dawn did may have become a 'sudo sex cult' but I highly doubt it due to the nature of the grade papers and rituals I have seen. 

As for Hubbard and Parsons, yes Parsons was known to be in swinging circles and he was never in the A.:.A.:. , Crowley even called what Parsons and Hubbard were doing 'loutish' and stupid. He was aware that Hubbard stole Parsons girlfriend and stole his yacht. 

Point is, there is no evidence that Sean Combs is a member of any Hermetic Order, and furthermore that the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was a 'sex cult' roflmao.

You really are just making things up as you go along and speaking in extreme vagaries.   
If you are not, please provide some evidence.
Thank you kindly.

[guyfriday]

As an initiate of an order that has a lineage traced back to the Golden Dawn I can tell you that you are spouting absolute rubbish.  
The word is psuedo, by the way, not sudo.
I have extensive primary source records from the time period and no where is mentioned anything of the nature you are claiming.
Perhaps your OGD is something separate?

The original Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was broken up in around 1903 and splintered.  Crowley was never head of the Order nor 'in charge of it' he was a Probationer and Neophyte and left when the other members would not tender his grade paperworks after completing his work.  
He founded the Ordo A.:.A.:. with friend George Cecil Jones in 1905.  
Anything that the many and multitude splinter groups of the Golden Dawn did may have become a 'sudo sex cult' but I highly doubt it due to the nature of the grade papers and rituals I have seen. 

As for Hubbard and Parsons, yes Parsons was known to be in swinging circles and he was never in the A.:.A.:. , Crowley even called what Parsons and Hubbard were doing 'loutish' and stupid. He was aware that Hubbard stole Parsons girlfriend and stole his yacht. 

Point is, there is no evidence that Sean Combs is a member of any Hermetic Order, and furthermore that the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was a 'sex cult' roflmao.

You really are just making things up as you go along and speaking in extreme vagaries.   
If you are not, please provide some evidence.
Thank you kindly.

what ever, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about this. I stated my opinion on this matter, and looking at the facts of rituals that both the OGD and Combs were/are using the same practices. 

Also thank you, I keep forgetting that pseudo starts with pee.

[sahgwa]

what ever, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about this. I stated my opinion on this matter, and looking at the facts of rituals that both the OGD and Combs were/are using the same practices. 

Also thank you, I keep forgetting that pseudo starts with pee.

I am honestly not viewing this as a 'pissing contest.'
 
I am seeing what could amount to slander without facts or any backup in regards to a spiritual group, and then providing a rebuttal with actual facts and receiving nothing in return. 

It's not super important, but I can't stand people spouting hyperbolic inaccurate crap no matter what the topic is. 

'Diddy' can play 'magician' all he wants, it doesn't make the Golden Dawn a 'sex cult' .
That's all.

[Maxmars]

Actually, I prefer not to focus on what very well may be an "invention" of the "Diddy" prestige....

Crap he sold to his drunken sex-crazed audience to further aggrandize his "illuminati" status (intentional lower case.)

Perhaps he has mastered some discipline or other, perhaps he is spiritually "distinct," as he might posture.

No,... that is not going to have bearing on things made to happen by him or his "prestige"... time to own it.

Diddy is no Crowley... but I bet they'd each approve of each other.

[KKLoco]

There seems to be a lot of unfounded conjecture here. I have literally done around 100 hours of research on Diddy and everything surrounding him. Anyone trying to attribute ANY type of hermeticism or spiritual practice, for that matter -- is ENTIRELY off base!

This man was a megalomaniac of EPIC proportions. His entire world consisted of sex, drugs, rap, and partying. 

Don't give him too much credit. He is simply a thug that will literally, and figuratively -- FUCK ANYTHING that walks.!