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(09-29-2024, 10:20 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I'm just apprehensive about people believing the media in that this is an "isolated" case. Conspiracy theorists have reported this kind of thing (elevated to almost a cult-level) even among our own politicians, religious leadership cabals, "executives" of mega-businesses/media, and elite artist groups.
It appears they have been at it for a very long time, and they are a 'growing' community. You and I obviously can't "do" anything about it, but that doesn't mean we should pretend they don't exist.
Circumstances make them 'hide'... and it appears that some actively 'hide' them... why? Embarrassment? - Isn't that's a 'tell?'
In industries and institutions that 'police themselves' and craft their own rules this kind of thing happens more and more frequently, doing more and more damage. How bad will it get? How many people can be crushed or destroyed before society is allowed to say "No more of this?"
There's is a thing about making stuff secret that also makes it more appealing to others.
Here's something I've found while poking around.
Sunset of the Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn – Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn (osogd.org)
They believe that they are successor to the infamous Order of the Golden Dawn that Alister Crowley was once the head master of. Here's their posting in 2019:
Quote:Effective on the Autumnal Equinox (i.e., in September) of 2019, the Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn will withdraw its Light from its Outer manifestation and no longer provide initiation, mentorship, education, or other services. Although Adepts of the OSOGD may separately choose to teach the OSOGD system in their own capacity, the Order will no longer provide the foregoing services following the date of withdrawal.
Since 2001, the Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn has initiated and made Adepts of magicians from across the world, in pursuit of its goal to normalize Adeptship. It has succeeded in that goal in several respects, including through the public dissemination of its rituals and other materials, the initiation and advancement of aspirants through the OSOGD curriculum, and public and community efforts.
However, the senior OSOGD membership has decided to redirect its work towards new endeavors and thus has chosen to place the First Order into abeyance with as much grace, intention, and deliberateness as possible. As part of this transition, the OSOGD will seek to archive its materials to make them even more useful to future generations, who we hope will take these materials to create their own groups, practices, and systems. We look forward to seeing those creations.
We thank you for allowing us the high honor of serving this community.
May what we have partaken bring us to the quintessence, the Great Work, the Summum Bonum, True Wisdom, and Perfect Happiness. So mote it be.
Now I'm not sure if this group really does have any connection to the one from 100 years ago or not, but I do know that it didn't shut down it just went Non-Public about what it does. So, when it comes to cults, secrecy is just a piece of the appeal.
This Combs thing is either going to get lost in the news cycle or will need to have something or guidelines like ATS Mods did for P-Gate and Epstein. Combs is already heading in both of those directions, not to mention the videos that are already going around with underaged folks (both boys and girls) taking drugged part in the activities on those tapes.
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It appears that there are a number of candidate "old school" shadowy organizations that could fit this bill... and even a few not so 'shadowy'... as well as some quite 'new school.'
Not that you're looking in the wrong direction...
Whatever this 'trend' is; it's neither disorganized nor 'sporadic.' This has roots very few want to reveal. Even the whistleblowers may prove complicit (I know, shocking.)
Many people within the circle of this 'activity' seem to describe something that is not necessarily confined to the music industry... it's very much bigger and more entrenched than a few elite artists, their crony entourages, and desperately pathetic wannabes. This was just one 'flavor' of undertaking... as conspiratorial as this might sound... it's a single ugly piece of the overall horrible puzzle.
Important questions must be asked... and we can no longer require 'someone else' to ask them... in fact, those we expect to ask - are careful not to ask.
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It's okay to call that stuff "satanic".
With a small-s, I suppose, if you must.
As the man said, "you shall know them by their fruits".
Hahaha!
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(09-30-2024, 03:31 AM)Maxmars Wrote: It appears that there are a number of candidate "old school" shadowy organizations that could fit this bill... and even a few not so 'shadowy'... as well as some quite 'new school.'
Not that you're looking in the wrong direction...
Whatever this 'trend' is; it's neither disorganized nor 'sporadic.' This has roots very few want to reveal. Even the whistleblowers may prove complicit (I know, shocking.)
Many people within the circle of this 'activity' seem to describe something that is not necessarily confined to the music industry... it's very much bigger and more entrenched than a few elite artists, their crony entourages, and desperately pathetic wannabes. This was just one 'flavor' of undertaking... as conspiratorial as this might sound... it's a single ugly piece of the overall horrible puzzle.
Important questions must be asked... and we can no longer require 'someone else' to ask them... in fact, those we expect to ask - are careful not to ask.
It's been clear since Epstein that the people who should ask the questions, are also people involved in the mess. I wonder how many members of the media and political oversite committees are in these videos coming out from Combs? We know that some like Schiff, have been videoed in some form or another and there was speculation that Pelosi had been seen on Epstein Island, then there is the Bidens. All three of them could easily shut down an investigations, but now we have at least one video getting "Shopped Around" that the victim stated that the other person in the video was someone higher up than Combs and was involved in the rape that was taking place on the video. When pressed about who the other person was, the victim was afraid to say.
Yeah I agree, sometimes a "Whistleblower" can be a disinformation agent and get used to control the narrative.
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I think the "Conspiracy" angle just got a lot stronger, and that all these sexcapades are connected.
Hillary Clinton warns of October surprise targeting Kamala Harris (thehill.com)
Quote:Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned of an October surprise that will “distort and pervert” Vice President Harris.
“There will be concerted efforts to distort and pervert Kamala Harris, who she is, what she stands for, what she’s done,” Clinton said during an interview with “Firing Line” host Margaret Hoover.
She pointed to the 2016 “pizzagate” conspiracy theory that surrounded the end of her presidential campaign against Donald Trump.
“I mean, look, I mean, the crazy story about me running a child trafficking operation out of a basement of a pizzeria,” Clinton said.
The comment evoked laughter from the crowd. “Pizzagate,” as the child sex trafficking conspiracy became known, resulted in a North Carolina man opening fire on a Washington, D.C., pizza parlor in 2016.
“Don’t laugh,” Clinton told the crowd. “It was a huge story. And it got one young man in North Carolina to get in his car with his, you know, assault rifle and drove up to liberate these nonexistent children and shoot up a pizzeria in Washington, D.C.”
“This is dangerous stuff. It starts online often on the dark web. It migrates. It’s picked up by the pro-Trump media. It’s then reported on by everybody else, which makes sure it has about 100 percent coverage, and people believe it,” Clinton said.
Looks like they are going to try and deflect any videos that come out as "Deep Fakes" and as "Trumps Fault". Well at least we know more is going to come out, I wonder if the media will wait until a shooting happens or will they just start going full on ignore mode now?
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"Other members of the RICO conspiracy are criminally liable for the sex trafficking even if they didn’t actually participate in the sex acts," said Rahmani, the former federal prosecutor. "So, someone who bought the thousand bottles of baby oil or who gave the victims post-drug IVs could be charged as a co-conspirator."
“Prosecutors can pressure unnamed and unindicted co-conspirators to turn against Combs or anyone else involved in the alleged crimes, he said. And if they don't flip, they can face charges themselves.”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/accused-sex-t...ans-photos
This is going to get juicy. The timing is quite coincidental. Could these names come out in October? Ironically, the diddler and all his groupies are all staunch democratic supporters. October surprise anyone?
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Well I’m sure that this behavior, drug-fueled deviant sex parties, consensual or not, is not confined to the US , and certainly not to one political party!
The hypocrisy of these people during their acceptance speeches at awards shows etc, thanking the lord and wearing all their crosses has always made me feel uncomfortable. This Diddy guy has always struck me as an insincere person who seems like he is hiding something, and now the rest of us plebes find this out.
Unfortunately for many of his victims, he apparently asserts a lot of control still and they are likely still being terrorized into silence. Interesting how Justin Bieber has distanced himself, while others are speaking out….
Oftentimes it’s said that the abused become the abusers. If that is true, then this sick fuck must have been pretty badly wronged. I’m not in any way excusing anything he and his sicko cronies have done
May they reap what they’ve sown.
My 2 pesos,
Tecate
If it’s hot, wet and sticky and it’s not yours, don’t touch it!
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(09-30-2024, 10:24 AM)guyfriday Wrote: I think the "Conspiracy" angle just got a lot stronger, and that all these sexcapades are connected.
Hillary Clinton warns of October surprise targeting Kamala Harris (thehill.com)
Looks like they are going to try and deflect any videos that come out as "Deep Fakes" and as "Trumps Fault". Well at least we know more is going to come out, I wonder if the media will wait until a shooting happens or will they just start going full on ignore mode now?
It's called preemption.
"Get in front of bad news before it gets here."
I want to avoid political stuff... but the political cabals and their media outlet cronies are notorious for this.
Artists and elites who are part of this stuff will always "squirm"... this is part of it.
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(09-30-2024, 03:39 PM)Tecate Wrote: Well I’m sure that this behavior, drug-fueled deviant sex parties, consensual or not, is not confined to the US , and certainly not to one political party!
The hypocrisy of these people during their acceptance speeches at awards shows etc, thanking the lord and wearing all their crosses has always made me feel uncomfortable. This Diddy guy has always struck me as an insincere person who seems like he is hiding something, and now the rest of us plebes find this out.
Unfortunately for many of his victims, he apparently asserts a lot of control still and they are likely still being terrorized into silence. Interesting how Justin Bieber has distanced himself, while others are speaking out….
Oftentimes it’s said that the abused become the abusers. If that is true, then this sick fuck must have been pretty badly wronged. I’m not in any way excusing anything he and his sicko cronies have done
May they reap what they’ve sown.
My 2 pesos,
Tecate
He’s already been caught trying to bribe witnesses. Apparently, this is one of the many reasons the judges didn’t grant bail. He offered a cool $50 million and two separate judges said no.
Reports are he was just taken off suicide watch. Epstein 2.0 here we go. There is no way they are going to let him talk.
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10-14-2024, 03:31 AM
This post was last modified 10-14-2024, 03:59 AM by UltraBudgie.
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Interesting interview, which for some reason doesn't show up with the video button correctly; follow the link:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/WAKE-UP-CALL-F...OVT_0910:1
Difficult to find reference to this in the US media; MSN glosses it as "a conspiracy-laden remark... without providing evidence".
Quote:“It was a system made up of hundreds of people. Every event of this same P. Diddy, with all this entourage of so-called celebrities, must have been attended by hundreds or thousands of people. And all this in a country full of cameras, with 24/7 surveillance via the Internet, all of it around children being raped and perverted,” the spokeswoman said.
Zakharova described the network built by P. Diddy as “a mafia structure that united people from the ‘show business’ and people from the political community, obviously,” in which “they covered each other in some way,” and compared the case to that of Jeffrey Epstein.
“The police could not help but know, the FBI could not help but know, the White House could not help but know, everyone knew. Some were afraid, others were saving that information for the opportune moment,” she said.
https://www.laiguana.tv/articulos/128995...e-p-diddy/ [translated from Spanish]
Edit: and of course take this all with a grain of salt, as it's from Russia Today.
I followed the Science, and all I found was the Money.
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