India Bombs Pakistan

[Orby]

More chance of those two nations kicking off a nuclear exchange than most of the rest, if we are honest. 

Hopefully, cooler heads prevail.

True mate while at the same time whose manufacturing and moving the strings? China.

[andy06shake]

True mate while at the same time whose manufacturing and moving the strings? China.

They could quite possibly have a finger in the proverbial pie.

Then again, if it did come to some sort of nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan.

You would think the overall chaos that would be generated on China's borders would pose a security, economic, and diplomatic threat, that would quite frankly be better avoided.

Then there is the additional risk of fallout and contamination drifting across borders on the wind into China which would also be a serious problem to contend with.

[Inspector44]

You sound like a westerner in 1935 casting off worries about the Japanese naval buildup, expecting the yellow man to be incapable of matching the wests technologies. The fact is the Chinese are catching up fast and have already made it to space. Their electric cars are on par with the wests and they out produce everything we do. The gap between us and them is narrowing and they are planning to completely demolish our democratic systems ASAP. They are single minded on destroying our way of life. Expect the worst in the years ahead.

No, I sound like a guy who has had to inspect actual Chinese "high end" tech and found the workmanship to be trash. I am also a hobby electronics tech and when I buy Chinese made circuits in bulk, like the TP4056 lipo charger PCBs for example, I know that I will have to throw away 30-70% of the cards due to inoperability. I am a guy who has been trained in ISO 9001 standards and know quality when I see it. Its literally my job. The Chinese steal everything they have. Because they steal everything they have, we know how to counter it before they even field it.  Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen, it didn't happen because we ignored the Japanese war machine because of racist ideology. We had an eye on them the whole time. There are dozens of reports by experts that China is falling apart at the seams and I simply cant be bothered by a regime on the cusp of complete collapse. Besides, I was a former B-52H avionics tech, I know that an aircraft built in the 60s can counter most current Chinese threats. They are not caught up. The MIC wants you to be afraid of Russia and China so they can convince you to go along with the constant state of war when in reality Russia and China are about to shit the bed and if we allow them to they cant convince anyone of the boogeyman anymore.

[Orby]

Then there is the additional risk of fallout and contamination drifting across borders on the wind into China which would also be a serious problem to contend with.

They have to go for India at some point. One can forget about pretty much everywhere as the dominoes will fall but India is a proper big hitter and is still a light within the democratic world. China needs to finish off any democracy world over, especially near its borders. USA can be severed off and the rst of the world can develop their own system, kind of irrelevent really. India is completely the opposite, probablt the leading worldwide rival in decades to come and right on the border. China needs to topple India's democratic institutions. IDS reckoned our nutcase health services outsourced 15% of the Coronas geneome this and that (I'm no scientist lol) to the Chinese and he said they immediately started using the testing to develop super bio weapons to target British people. A fair proportion of that 15% will have been Indian gene this and that for testing, so we handed to the Chinese the basic information to create a bio weapon and wipe out the Indians! The Chinese don't need nukes or border wars, to destroy the Indian nation, they just needed our retarded self destructive bone idle lazy as f-ck NHS management to turn away the personal information on our people and pass it to India's enemy! You couldn't make this stuff up!

[andy06shake]

They have to go for India at some point. One can forget about pretty much everywhere as the dominoes will fall but India is a proper big hitter and is still a light within the democratic world. China needs to finish off any democracy world over, especially near its borders. USA can be severed off and the rst of the world can develop their own system, kind of irrelevent really. India is completely the opposite, probablt the leading worldwide rival in decades to come and right on the border. China needs to topple India's democratic institutions. IDS reckoned our nutcase health services outsourced 15% of the Coronas geneome this and that (I'm no scientist lol) to the Chinese and he said they immediately started using the testing to develop super bio weapons to target British people. A fair proportion of that 15% will have been Indian gene this and that for testing, so we handed to the Chinese the basic information to create a bio weapon and wipe out the Indians! The Chinese don't need nukes or border wars, to destroy the Indian nation, they just needed our retarded self destructive bone idle lazy as f-ck NHS management to turn away the personal information on our people and pass it to India's enemy! You couldn't make this stuff up!

The truth is always stranger than fiction mate, it's just how we roll as a species.

Aye, China is definitely the real enemy, or at least in contention for who the century will belong to. 

Not really two ways about it, Russia going all back of the bus. 

I still think nuclear war is a mug's game all the same, and any nation stupid enough to chuck one out of the pram, nuts.

As to our beloved NHS, i dont fancy living in the UK without a national health service.

Where the state of such is concerned, well the Tories did rape and pillage the institution just about every and all ways silly, for the better part of two decades.

Not any real wonder it's falling apart at the seams.

[Orby]

No, I sound like a guy who has had to inspect actual Chinese "high end" tech and found the workmanship to be trash. I am also a hobby electronics tech and when I buy Chinese made circuits in bulk, like the TP4056 lipo charger PCBs for example, I know that I will have to throw away 30-70% of the cards due to inoperability. I am a guy who has been trained in ISO 9001 standards and know quality when I see it. Its literally my job. The Chinese steal everything they have. Because they steal everything they have, we know how to counter it before they even field it.  Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen, it didn't happen because we ignored the Japanese war machine because of racist ideology. We had an eye on them the whole time. There are dozens of reports by experts that China is falling apart at the seams and I simply cant be bothered by a regime on the cusp of complete collapse. Besides, I was a former B-52H avionics tech, I know that an aircraft built in the 60s can counter most current Chinese threats. They are not caught up. The MIC wants you to be afraid of Russia and China so they can convince you to go along with the constant state of war when in reality Russia and China are about to shit the bed and if we allow them to they cant convince anyone of the boogeyman anymore.

No disrespect but the B52 is well old. Surely China must have tech to play against that big boat in the sky. Holy smoke it's ancient. I give you Yankees some some respect when it comes to engineering, yes you almost over do it bar that joke company (these days) called Ford who seem to nmake things to drop apart a day after the warranty runs out. Your manufacturing is still world class yes, yet the Chinese are catching up. You quote the circuit board, look I heard similar about the Japanese in the 80's, holy smoke what nonsense. Sure some was poor quality but when the Japanese wanted to make something well then it could be the equal of what the westerners could create. The same applies to China today. The only issue with Chinese goods in foreign parts are our retailers, who go for the cheapest option available. They go for junk because our lunatic population will pretty much in the majority go for whoever can sell it cheaper. So everything we get in the west is the bottom end of quality productions. It don't mean the Chinese can't make the good stuff too. Where that iphone made in your pocket? Where's the parts that go into your Range Rover supposedly assembled in the West Midlands actually come from? China, China, China. It's all done in China. I've worked in manufacturing every year bar the first year of my working life and the times I've heard 'they can't make the good stuff' or 'they'll never match this and that' holy smoke. Most of those folks work premises closed down as the Chinese produced equal too or better and can actually supply it too. China's workforce is actually capable of doing work, no idea about over there in the States but the modern British youth is largely incapable of doing a hard days work if at all. They just aren't capable of doing a days work, completely working shy, maunual work is beneath them, drugged up out of their eyeballs, self centred, mobile phone addicted, bone idle people known to man. My grandad used to walk to the pit in Easington, grab a pick axe and dig out coal from under the North Sea seams, get on with the mauling then walk back home. This generation today can't even press a button on a press machine without claiming to be suffering from 'anxiety' and never working again. The Chinese if push comes to shove and things kick off, will have a walk in the park taking out the West if we have to rely on this generation to defend our borders.

[andy06shake]

B-52?    Try the B-21 Raider. Good luck, China. We still have our B-2 Spirits and our B-1 Lancers as well. The B-52 still has it uses but it is not our primary nuclear bomber. The Raider is about to own the sky.

It is some piece of kit, B-21 Raider, that is. 

Off topic a little.

I always wanted a flight simulator of the old B-52s, the closest i got was Megafortress EB52 on the old Amiga/msDOS.

Wonder if they will bring one out for the B-21 Raider?

Probably not for the same to similar reasons, but i still hold out hope.

I know you can get mods for the likes of MS-FS 2024, which features the Raider, but they are not going to let me fire off cruise missiles and plot my way into enemy territories under radar and enemy air cover, in the same to similar manner as EB52, so it's just not the same. LoL

[727Sky]

China, nukes, and Pak

[Zaphod58]

No disrespect but the B52 is well old. Surely China must have tech to play against that big boat in the sky. Holy smoke it's ancient. 

The B-52 is also not penetrating any airspace until it's a permissive environment. It's a stand off bomber that will stay at the extreme end of SAM range, or completely outside of SAM range and launch cruise missiles.

[andy06shake]

Two nuclear powers.   Not good.
Won't spread though.  
India would make fast work of Pakistan.

I tend to agree India would prevail if that's what we would like to call it.

But on the flip side of that, Pakistan has nuclear weapons with missile systems like the Shaheen and Ghauri capable of reaching the likes of Delhi.

With an estimated population of 34.7 million people, including surrounding urban regions.

A nuclear exchange would likely result in millions of deaths, massive environmental damage, and contamination.

Never mind the global condemnation from just about every other nation on the planet.

It's simply a mug's game that would bring about more trouble than it's worth.