I support abortion because I don't think rapists should be allowed to be fathers

[ANNEE]

Not being female abortion isn't something I've given a lot thought to but I'm definitely going to read Judith Jarvis Thomson's 1971 essay, "A Defense of Abortion,". This essay argues for abortion's permissibility even if a fetus is a person, primarily through the famous "Violinist Analogy," suggesting a right to life doesn't grant a right to use someone else's body, thereby championing bodily autonomy over forced gestation, and remains highly influential.

The thing is it's not really about abortion.

It's about a government legislating a woman's right to make her own reproductive choices.

[PorkChop96]

Usually rape involves extreme violence towards the woman, so girls and women need to get over the shame or fall into the blaming themselves game and go directly to a hospital and get a rape test done where all injuries and the DNA of the rapist can be collected, then the police should be called immediately for actioning these types of horrific crimes. It should be easier these days what with surveillance almost everywhere and pinging cellphones to place people at the scene of the crime. 

In the link I posted, the women went directly to the police station to report a rape and they laughed at her.

Girls and women are being educated on how to properly deal with this type of violence against them. It's not like it use to be, thank goodness.

That's where I was going with that, more women need to go and report what happens when it happens or these guys just keep getting away with it. 


I am all for getting rapists off the streets, preferably with a little lead poisoning, and letting these women get on with their lives without fear that man will do it again. The issue from there will be to ensure that the DAs and AGs don't let these asshats back out after 6 months  on "good behavior"

[quintessentone]

That's where I was going with that, more women need to go and report what happens when it happens or these guys just keep getting away with it. 


I am all for getting rapists off the streets, preferably with a little lead poisoning, and letting these women get on with their lives without fear that man will do it again. The issue from there will be to ensure that the DAs and AGs don't let these asshats back out after 6 months  on "good behavior"

Unfortunately, what I am reading is that the DAs and AGs are doing more convictions but with less jail/prison time, so slaps on the wrists.

There are no easy answers with these types of topics.

[PorkChop96]

I was on the pill.

Had an emotional "last hoorah" with the husband I was divorcing because he was jealous of his own children.

You truly believe all unwanted pregnancies are because of lack of birth control?

If you paid attention to anything I had been saying, you would know that is not how I feel. Do accidents happen, sure. Are all contraceptives 100% affective, absolutely not. But, you are also an adult and know that anytime you have sex, you can have a baby because of it. That should not come as a surprise to anyone.

I have been sexually active, with a number of partners, for 12+ years. Do you know how many children I have as a result of that? None.  And every time I perform those acts I, as well as my partner, know that there is a chance that a baby can be produced. But, if I were to end up getting my partner pregnant, would it be the babies fault? No  so why make it suffer for my mistake?

[ANNEE]

Usually, rape involves extreme violence towards the woman, . . . 

It's about power and control.

I was raped by an ex-boyfriend who wanted to get back with me.  Even though I knew the person and had previous relations -- it was very traumatizing because you are completely vulnerable.  You feel so completely helpless.

I can't even imagine the trauma of being raped by a stranger -- who may be violent -- even threatening your life.

It's a feeling that never goes away.

[PorkChop96]

Unfortunately, what I am reading is that the DAs and AGs are doing more convictions but with less jail/prison time, so slaps on the wrists.

There are no easy answers with these types of topics.

i know my take is a harsh one, but a dead rapist will never rape again.....and I believe that with anyone that will rape, assault kids, etc. 

One of these days, DAs and AGs need to learn that their soft on crime attitudes will come back to haunt them. I'm not wishing anything negative on them, but they need to learn soon.

[ANNEE]

But, you are also an adult and know that anytime you have sex, you can have a baby because of it. That should not come as a surprise to anyone.

I'm an adult that should have the legal right to make reproduction decisions for myself -- including abortion.

No surprise.

[quintessentone]

It's about power and control.

I was raped by an ex-boyfriend who wanted to get back with me.  Even though I knew the person and had previous relations -- it was very traumatizing because you are completely vulnerable.  You feel so completely helpless.

I can't even imagine the trauma of being raped by a stranger -- who may be violent -- even threatening your life.

It's a feeling that never goes away.

I am so sorry that happened to you. That is what all the survivors of violence and rape say, that it never goes away because the threat in society has not gone away because it takes a "me too movement" to make any tiny ripples for change to be put in place protections of people from this type of violence and deviance.

I also think this thread is about power and control over women's bodies and the questioning of the perp's rights as a father rather than focusing on the absolute horrific violent nature of these acts and getting justice for those who matter - the survivors.

[David64]

It's about power and control.

I was raped by an ex-boyfriend who wanted to get back with me. 

Hopefully he's still in prison with "Property of Big Bubba" tattooed across his ass.

[PorkChop96]

I'm an adult that should have the legal right to make reproduction decisions for myself -- including abortion.

No surprise.

Abortion, in your case it seems, is about being selfish. You are inconvenienced by your own choices so you want to get rid of the evidence. 



One could also try just keeping your legs closed and not let any swinging dick get between them(sad that I have to keep adding this or someone will take my words out of context but this does not go for rape). Then one wouldn't have to worry about getting pregnant at all......but you do you boo boo