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I support abortion because I don't think rapists should be allowed to be fathers
(12-08-2025, 12:27 PM)stealth blimp Wrote: Difference is you could have if you wanted to. It was never an option for me.
... because of your own behavior and attitudes. 
And those ARE personal choices on your part.
So in a way you did decide your own dateless situation.
(12-08-2025, 12:27 PM)stealth blimp Wrote: Difference is you could have if you wanted to. It was never an option for me.


It's always an option for everyone, except those with certain medical or physical restrictions.

But, even if you fit into those categories, that is no excuse to make it everyone else's problem that you can't have kids of your own.
(12-08-2025, 10:10 AM)stealth blimp Wrote: Not my DNA. I'm hostile toward children in general.



I think the real reason that people don't want to have babies with you is not because you're awkward/unattractive or whatever you're trying to claim - it's because you sound like an abhorrent human being. 

You are just SadFishing by claiming it's unfair.  Lifes unfair, deal with it.  What about the people that have kids that don't really want kids so they don't parent them as well as they should - a lot of people that would love children and can't get pregnant or have to go through the trauma of IVF, they could easily say a lot of things are unfair.

Congratulations on rage baiting everyone on here, I assume that's what you set out to do.
(12-08-2025, 11:54 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: ...I think there are cases where it can be allowed but for the most part it is murder. 

I know there are a few Libertarians among the DI community,
so a bit of Ayn Rand.
Quote:An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).
...
Never mind the vicious nonsense of claiming that an embryo has a "right to life." A piece of protoplasm has no rights—and no life in the human sense of the term. One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months. To equate a potential with an actual, is vicious; to advocate the sacrifice of the latter to the former, is unspeakable.... Observe that by ascribing rights to the unborn, i.e., the nonliving, the anti-abortionists obliterate the rights of the living: the right of young people to set the course of their own lives. The task of raising a child is a tremendous, lifelong responsibility, which no one should undertake unwittingly or unwillingly. Procreation is not a duty: human beings are not stock-farm animals. For conscientious persons, an unwanted pregnancy is a disaster; to oppose its termination is to advocate sacrifice, not for the sake of anyone's benefit, but for the sake of misery qua misery, for the sake of forbidding happiness and fulfillment to living human beings.

Ayn Rand Lexicon
There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people. - Commander William Adama
(12-08-2025, 12:21 PM)Bootless Wrote: Think: what do rape and anti-abortion laws have in common?
No choice for the woman.

The system is rigged against women's choice.

Saying (non-rape) anti-abortion laws result in no choice for the woman is wrong. It's the same level of logic that would lead one to say that child support laws result in no choice for the parent. A voluntary act leads to a legal obligation: with anti-abortion, sexual congress requires bearing the child to term; with child support, being a parent requires contributing to supporting the child. The idea that a woman must be immune from the consequences and obligations of her actions—else she is deprived of 'choice'— is bizarre: it implies she has no autonomy when deciding to have sex. Is all sex rape?
(12-08-2025, 10:18 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Have you considered cloning or buying some eggs and renting a womb? That can be done legally. Like many things, it's a matter of money. Also, you could hire a professional to help you work out some of the surprise sex scenarios that have you so worked up.


Please don't encourage this man to have children, his mindset is far too hostile to be a good, kind, caring, empathetic parent - no child deserves to be brought up like this!
(12-08-2025, 12:31 PM)Bootless Wrote: I know there are a few Libertarians among the DI community,
so a bit of Ayn Rand.

Ayn Rand is wrong. An embryo is a child once it has quickened. When that happens varies. Some never do. The first-trimester line is an arbitrary attempt to quantify that. Once the embryo has quickened, killing the child is definitely murder.
(12-08-2025, 12:34 PM)tellmethesecrets Wrote: Please don't encourage this man to have children, his mindset is far too hostile to be a good, kind, caring, empathetic parent - no child deserves to be brought up like this!

I was trying to be a bit sarcastic, but failed again as usual. Lol
(12-08-2025, 12:27 PM)stealth blimp Wrote: Difference is you could have if you wanted to. It was never an option for me.



Stop the self pitting.

The only person to blame for that is you!  

And its not your looks as I have seen to right goblins meet hotties.

Its your repulsive resentful attitude that makes women run.

And its a good thing you never had kids.
(12-08-2025, 12:31 PM)Bootless Wrote: I know there are a few Libertarians among the DI community,
so a bit of Ayn Rand.


Abortion in and of itself is not the point. Op said women who become pregnant through rape should be forced and/or coerced in to having an abortion.

The general stance is that the decision is up to her.