I Cut Off The Money - They Threatened To Kill Me

[andy06shake]

Apparently you didn't read my post on what I think of Musk.
Otherwise you wouldn't say that I think he's special.
He has his good points and bad points, like everyone else.

You are choosing to think he made a Nazi salute even 
though common sense dictates that he wouldn't stand 
in front of a crowd and camera and do such a thing, 
and even though Jewish groups who chase down these
kinds of things say that it wasn't a nazi salute.

I think i read it just fine Flyers.

Did you not suggest he was on the spectrum? 

And offer it up as an excuse for his Hitler salute on stage. 

Musk is awkward .. probably on 'the spectrum'.
He was just flailing around over excited.

Not just me choosing to think he made a Nazi salute, so....

And again, Jews are hardly an authority on Nazi salutes. 

If he is going to do stupid things on stage.

People are hardly likely to forget. 

That's simply the way the cookie crumbles.

[andy06shake]

You said,

'How the hell would he know what constitutes hard graft is beyond me.'

The AI overview says,

'Elon Musk works an extremely demanding schedule, often claiming to work 80-120 hours per week and famously stating he works "every waking hour". He advocates for a hardcore work culture, stating that 80 hours a week is the minimum to make an impact, with peaks over 100 hours. He has also said that working weekends is a "superpower" and he has, in the past, slept in his office to meet deadlines. '

The Nazi salute thing has already been addresed here.

The fella buys companies when he's not full of Ket@mine. 

He's a CEO, not a superhero. 

And he ""claims"" lots of things.

He doesn't design or make anything himself.

That would be other people who do that for him. 

If you think that's working hard, that's up to you.

Give him a shovel or a jackhammer and tell him to dig a hole in the road, let's see how he gets on. 

As to his Nazi salute already being addressed.

Yes, that's because he did it, if you wish to make excuses for such, you go right ahead.

It won't change what we all see Elon do.

Because that kind of cr@p doesn't wash away in this day of age.

[Maxmars]

I find the presence of Elon Musk in society as pretty much run of the mill.

I think the drama of his many utterances, and the reaction shots the media thrives on are largely theatrical.

Mr. Musk appears to enjoy playing in the world of public relations and large-scale social engagement...
which is typical in creators of highly-leveraged mega-corporate enterprises spanning continents.

Go figure.

But the media Activism machine [mAm] (now operating like a "social" algorithm) once engaged, never silences itself, or yields to calls for "calming the hell down." 
The mechanism that created the near-perpetual font of "anti-" something noise
has now included Musk as another perma-target....

Your grand children will be pestered endlessly about his awesomeness/villainy... everything remotely
good will be attacked with a negative account, everything bad bolstered with something mitigating...
Yeah.... let me know when you tire of it.

And while all I've seen is imagery, and all I've heard is hearsay... the machine keeps hammering 
the gong....  sad... we went from reliable news, to abject pabulum, to sales-pitch news, to mind-crafting garbage.. and sadder still, that I am compelled to point it out to many who don't want to hear that.

For many this businessman's undertakings and words are the 'problem'... or the 'solution.'
Rather than an opinion... just like any of our own.

("We" care because the "media" reports on it as if "we" are 'supposed' to politically, socially...
and therefore of course, they report "we" do care so very much...  they pay talking heads to
make that point clear.)

Musk proved some very important things that the "parties" never - ever - EVER discuss or reveal...

THEY DON'T "DO" ANYTHING AT ALL. 

They are permanent mandated fixtures planted on the teat of society...
to prance and sing for public distraction...
while more money is siphoned out of the citizens, on behalf of anonymous entities... all beyond approach.

And even Musk may have been forced to "pause" and step back.

The public stage is not the world... nor are it's "stars" leaders by virtue of stardom.

Oh wait....  maybe it is to the algorithm.

Appearances.... appearances... reality hidden all the time.  I hate activism world.

[FlyersFan]

And offer it up as an excuse for his Hitler salute on stage. 

  It wasn't a nazi salute.
But you've got your mind made up
So think whatever you like.

[rickymouse]

I think there is a significant number of people who dislike him on both sides of the political aisle.

Considering his controversial political stances and rhetoric on certain social issues.

Never mind the lies he tells about other places and people around the globe, to suit his own warped and twisted political agenda.

But i would point out there didn't seem to be Republican or Democratic politicians/senators thetening to kill him or smash up his stock.

Just disgruntled individuals and members of the public. 

Otherwise, im sure he will be able to list them by name.

As to the "paying people to do nothing" nonsense, that man has never done a hard day's work in his puff.

How the hell would he know what constitutes hard graft is beyond me.

And the nazi salutes certainly don't help matters either.

The thing is that he is right.  I worked with government funding working for an agency for five years, and they made everything complicated and expensive to do with all the weird regulations...often put there so the agency I worked for had to buy supplies from a specific supplier, a supplier tied to friends of politicians and government officials at the top.

That was back in the early eighties that I worked for them, but I also did contracting with a similar agency in the town locally that worked with that same program through DOE(energy) funding shuffling through the State.  Lots of special interest use of the money.  I also was friends that ran the program here, both the inspectors and head of the program.  They had to follow the rules and regulations they had to follow to continue getting the money for the agency.  I did  work with that agency till 2023 till I got injured in a car accident and had to quit working.  Being I was trained in government grants, I also easily talked with others that worked with the grants and funding, which were the local building inspectors of all kinds, and people who were dispersing funds or receiving funds from the air base.

Lots of waste in government, and it has been going on since in the seventies when I actually got involved with programs but I am sure it was also going on before that.  I was just awakened to it in the seventies.

Now, the federal government has gone crazy, they have so many people working for them it is nuts.  A new great idea to save money is given to them and they seem to make it expensive and so plagued with regulations it gets screwed up so bad they abandon the whole thing.  They can screw anything up.

The problem is in the upper levels of each government unit, and even in the states government.  Politicians seem to make it worse, spending too much money on stupid things to get people's votes.  They try to make twenty  people happy, and it costs thousands of people to have to pay more taxes to fund what very few use.

I'm Seventy, I have seen this happen many times in my life.  it is not limited to big government either, even cities and counties do the same thing.  People around here are starting to hate paying high property taxes for things only a few people actually use.

[FlyersFan]

Not just me choosing to think he made a Nazi salute, so....

And again, Jews are hardly an authority on Nazi salutes. 

- Yeah ... not just you ... there are a whole lotta anti-Trumpsters who automatically hate Elon Musk because Musk backed Trump, and now they'll believe anything negative that is concocted against Musk.  Their hate spread.  They are the same people who still believe the Trump Russian hooker pee story.  

- As for the Jews being an authority on Nazi salutes ... the ADL sniffs out antisemitism and Naziism.  It's what they do.  If there was even the remotest chance that Musk did a real Nazi salute, they'd be all over it like flies on crap.   Instead, they gave him the all clear.

I don't love the guy.  But I don't hate him either.
He's a brilliant innovator and business man.
But he tried to screw the country over with big fake DOGE promises and 
cozying up to Trump to try to get special treatment for his companies.

He's obviously no nazi, and not stupid enough to do a nazi salute in front of cameras.
But if you choose to think he is ... go right ahead.   You live in a free country.

[DBCowboy]

The people that think that the current administration can make immediate changes are the same ones that think that Trump is a tyrant, authoritarian.

The cancer that is the evil Marxist democrat left takes time to heal and sometimes chemotherapy hurts.

You can tear down a system in a day, tear down borders in a minute.

But it takes years to fix that was fucked up in a second.

[WallFlowerActive]

He's a CEO, not a superhero. 

And he ""claims"" lots of things.

Isn’t this the liberal wet dream..

Elon Musk’s Vision of the Future: Work Is ‘Optional,’ Money Is Irrelevant as AI and Robots Take Over Everythinghttps://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/11/2...verything/

Liberal governments spending other peoples money through the theft of taxation to the point all people are broke, destitute, or flee a government heavily broke to the point it starts printing money to hyperinflation hasn’t ever worked on the long term.

Maybe robot slaves will be the ticket.

[WallFlowerActive]

He doesn't design or make anything himself.

You can say the same thing about movies.  And even books where editors help the author.  And the printing companies.

But the Harry Potter phenomenon is what it is because of Rowling.

There is a reason why Spacex is what it is.

[IgnorantGod]

I find the presence of Elon Musk in society as pretty much run of the mill.

I think the drama of his many utterances, and the reaction shots the media thrives on are largely theatrical.

Mr. Musk appears to enjoy playing in the world of public relations and large-scale social engagement...
which is typical in creators of highly-leveraged mega-corporate enterprises spanning continents.

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Well, as they say (whoever they are?), "every publicity is good publicity".

I'd suppose Musk's multiple appearances are somewhat to keep people talking about him. That is, when it's not DLM/LLM generated content.

And then? I'm reminded that news channels and social medias have become 'next gen' reality TV shows. Influencers are the new celebrities, big CEOs seem to have 'catch on' the trend and started podcasting.

Politicians post non-stop on social medias that I'm wondering when they are actually working? Or did they just stopped pretending?

As to the why everything has turned in entertainment? I'd guess it's mainly to keep 'chaos' at bay from the 'developed world', or its infrastructures. Maintaining the status quo up until its very last moment, maybe.

Since the covid, and the economical instability, I'd assume that there's probably some power struggles amongst the big corporates and other 'Richards Goldmen' (not pejorative in itself, I just find the name funny) to get the initiative in the next 'era' and stuff.