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(11-22-2025, 08:40 AM)midicon Wrote: I didn't call you a name.
Your opinion reveals a lot about you, nothing more.
But fair enough, I strayed off topic. It's all good.
You said I had "TDS" which is not appropriate or called for.
Tell me this does "Musk" have TDS when he disagrees with Trump?
Words say a lot about you also, which is something to consider.
So let's return to the topic, quite the childish nonsense.
And you can tell me how my opinion of Mr Musk is incorrect?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-22-2025, 07:19 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Would compete against him inn a shit eating contest?
Its ok, you can reach out, we are all here to support you.
Ah facts hurt your feelings so you lash out instead of responding substantively.
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Wait, back to topic, I didn't watch the video, who is "they"?
Does he mean leftists or the state/intelligence community, who are obviously using usaid and other ngos as cutouts and covert funding channels?
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(11-22-2025, 07:05 AM)ElitePlebeian Wrote: The guy bought Twitter for more free speech, created Starlink for internet and communication in places where its difficult to get. Space X to get us of this rock, Neuralink to have disabled people be able to do things again, Tesla against poluting gasoline vehicles, Grok against AI turning into woke propaganda machines and joined government to weed out wasteful spending.
I think that speaks louder than whatever the brainwashed left thinks he stands for. By the way unttill he took over Twitter those were his biggest fans. Quite telling.
Musk's PR resume isn't the superhero checklist you think it is.
Buying Twitter didn't "save free speech", it mostly amplified chaos, bots, and his own personal grievances.
Starlink, Tesla, and SpaceX exist because they make money off huge government contracts, subsidies, and regulatory advantages, not pure altruism.
Neuralink is still experimental and far from the miracle device people imagine.
And his "government efficiency" crusade mostly means helping himself and his allies.
Framing all criticism as "brainwashed leftists" is just a lazy shield for not understanding nuance.
Admiration is fine, but blind hero-worship isn't the flex you think it is.
Especially where the man in question is concerned.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-22-2025, 08:08 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Because people like Musk wanted to pay workers too much money so the boards voted to move manufacturing to China for the bottom line. While the customer / consumer over and over again proves they don’t care about “living wages” for workers. They care more about cheap shit.

What a load of tripe.
Companies move to China for a painfully obvious reason.
It's cheaper and easier to make stuff there.
Labor costs are lower, supply chains are massive, factories are efficient, and environmental or regulatory hurdles are far lighter than in Western countries.
Add government incentives, huge consumer markets, and world-class manufacturing infrastructure, and it's basically a corporate playground.
It's not some mystery of geopolitics, it's just businesses chasing profit, as they always do.
Acting shocked that companies relocate to maximize margins is like being surprised that water is wet.
Corporations aren't patriotic, they're opportunistic.
China simply offers the best deal.
And that's all she wrote.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-22-2025, 09:05 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Wait, back to topic, I didn't watch the video, who is "they"?
Does he mean leftists or the state/intelligence community, who are obviously using usaid and other ngos as cutouts and covert funding channels?
I did watch the video. He doesn't explicitly identify "they",
but
he does say that the 20% of GOP friendly NGO recipients of government money are more vocal than the 80% Dem friendly NGO recipients of government money when the funds are withheld.
There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people. - Commander William Adama
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(11-22-2025, 05:37 AM)andy06shake Wrote: And the nazi salutes certainly don't help matters either.
It wasn't a nazi salute.
Even the Jewish groups are defending him on this.
ADL on X
Quote:It seems that @elonmusk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge.
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(11-22-2025, 09:18 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Neuralink is still experimental and far from the miracle device people imagine.
Yet.
Everything good starts out as experimental.
Gotta' give it room for growth and fine tuning.
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(11-22-2025, 09:55 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: It wasn't a nazi salute.
Even the Jewish groups are defending him on this.
ADL on X
Looked like a Nazi salute.
And if it quacks like a duck, and looks like one, well....
Jewish groups are entitled to their opinion.
Same as those who have seen Musk do said salute.
You can call it whatever you please, awkward gesture indeed.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-22-2025, 09:57 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Yet.
Everything good starts out as experimental.
Gotta' give it room for growth and fine tuning.
I'm on the fence where the technology is concerned.
Would you let them experiment on you?
Because it did not work out too well for the poor monkeys.
And i thought you were against all this transhumanism?
Additionally, Musk owns the company he did not create, Neuralink, any more than he did Tesla.
That would be scientists and engineers responsible for the product and designs.
Aka Max Hodak, Benjamin Rapoport, Dongjin Seo, Paul Merolla, Philip Sabes, Tim Gardner, Tim Hanson, and Vanessa Tolosa.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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