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How the corruption of science has impacted public perception.
#61
(09-13-2025, 07:50 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Yes lets look at this.

You guys like AI right?

The opioid crisis in the United States began in the mid-1990s, primarily triggered by the approval and aggressive marketing of OxyContin by Purdue Pharma. This led to a significant increase in opioid prescriptions and subsequent addiction and overdose deaths.[Image: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/...rd.edu.ico] Harvard University[Image: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/...sn.org.ico] American Medical Association
 Origins of the Opioid CrisisThe opioid crisis in the United States began in the mid-1990s.
Key Events
  • 1996: OxyContin, a powerful prescription opioid, was introduced by Purdue Pharma. It was marketed as a less addictive option for pain management.
  • 1990s: The aggressive promotion of OxyContin led to increased prescribing of opioids, contributing to widespread misuse and addiction.
  • 2000s: The crisis escalated with rising rates of opioid use disorder (OUD) and overdose deaths. Heroin use also increased as individuals transitioned from prescription opioids to illicit drugs.
Current ImpactThe opioid crisis has evolved over the years, with significant public health implications, including high rates of overdose deaths and the spread of addiction. It is now recognized as one of the most severe public health challenges in recent history.

I could be mistaken but we had democrat presidents for 20 years. Clinton 8, Obama 8, Biden 4, since 1990. You had GWB senior for 4, GWB Jr. for 8 and trump for 4. 

Now all of a sudden 36 years is condensed into 9 months.

In my post just quoted by you, I made no mention of the opiate crisis. Neither did Annee

Nor did I, nor Annee, conflate years into just 9 months (it has been 9 years since 2016).

In my post, I stated that the current Trump-led US government is systematically wiping out and undermining credible and neccesary government accountabiliy.

Please respond to other posters direct points and do not suggest that they are doing things that they are not doing.

Also, can you provide a supporting link to anything that the Trump administrations have done to remedy or alleviate the opioid crisis that was caused by overprescription of legal opiates?

PS. We all know that Trump alleged that illegal sources of opiates could characterise and demonise entire ethnic groups, and that he has claimed to have cracked down on such illegal sources, but the statistics don't support that:

Total number of drug related arrests in the US by year and type.

You'd imagine that a crackdown of an allegedly worsening situation, would lead to more arrests, so whats actually happening here?.
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#62
(09-13-2025, 04:21 PM)rickymouse Wrote: The problem goes way deeper than vaccines, after reading so many conflicting research articles over the last fifteen years, I find that a lot of them contradict themselves on research conclusions.  So I started researching why they were so far off from each other, and I found lots of factors that were not properly considered.  

Looking for common ground to see if I could evaluste it properly took reading many days of other research, putting it all together, I made conclusions that actually matched conclusions made fifty years ago which were more accurate than all the new conclusions sometimes.  Seems by wanting to discover something new and taking things apart too much, they actually went nuts, the solution was simple.

Ever watch those Pharma commercials, they say you will feel so much better with the medicine they are pushing....but look at the side effects, they are sometimes worse than what you are treating.  Most medicines are based off natural things, but you can't patent nature, so they make their own chemicals they can patent...they remove the companion chemistry from their medicine that was in the original natural product though, the companion chemistry that helped our metabolism processes correctly deal with that chemistry to detox the negative effects.  Science is picking things apart too much and ignoring things that are real, don't  test out of the parameters and you can patent a chemical because there is no evidence it is bad.  So workers in research cannot test anything other than what they are assigned to work on.

Who funds the research, the parameters of the research, and scanning research to make sure the conclusions actually match the summary is important.  Then people take that research and apply it to things it should not be applied to all the time to profit from it or to gain followers or to promote a need for their services.  I see so much corruption in science that I wiil never blindly believe in it without investigating it on my own.  Much of the time the corruption is in using the research to show something it does not actually show....Like with breast cancer, only a small percentage of them are the ones they call the  HR+++ type.  Yet there are way more of the other type.  Also, why not spend time researching why there is a major increase in those diseases than to spend all the research money trying to find treatments for them.  Seems something is causing the high increase in cancer.  Find the chemistries or combination of chemicals that are increasing the risk.  The fda tests chemicals on their own most times, they do not test how they relate with nature or with other chemicals in the diet or environment.  But chemistries like to combine readily when we eat them, having so many approved chemistries used in and used in growing and processing foods is nuts. 

Hopefully the FDA gets the right kind of people working and running it, I followed the big cutting down in added chemicals in foods years ago in Europe, they lowered the toxicity of their food pretty much, but our FDA did nothing but ignore that.  The FDA has been corrupted for a while, it doesn't mean all the people working there are corrupt, their rules need to be altered to actually protect the people and not the Pharma companies.  By the way, those big fines the Pharma companies get, they can deduct them over a period of years and they result in just a quarter of the money lost that the fine was....paid their dues in advance is usually all it amounts to.  That is actually in some of the stuff from the FDA site I read. 

Like I said, they seem to think everyone is dumb....remember the fresh orange juice thing a few years ago...people think that was fixed, it blew over and people started chasing a different carrot, nothing was fixed, they just had to take fresh off many labels.

Annual life expectancy at birth in the United States, from 1850 to 2023, with projections until 2100. Ignoring the speculative part of thie graph, those good old days weren't.

Also, why this, where the US is 55th in the world in regard to life expectancy: List of countries by life expectancy?
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#63
(09-13-2025, 05:35 PM)annonentity Wrote: You just have to look at the Autism statistics do understand something is happening to the highly vaccinated kids. This is a case where the vested interests see only what they want to see.

100% of those on the autistic spectrum have drunk water and breathed in air, but not all of those who are diagnosed with autism have been immunized.

So, statistically it is definite that water and air are stronger causes of autism than immunizations are.

Autism in Non-Vaccinated Children: Examining Prevalence, Research, and Scientific Evidence

A vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study and, guess what, vaccinated kids do better on tests

Analysis of health outcomes in vaccinated and unvaccinated children: Developmental delays, asthma, ear infections and gastrointestinal disorders

Autism in the Amish Community

Underimmunization in Ohio's Amish: Parental Fears Are a Greater Obstacle Than Access to Care (68% stated that all of their children had received at least 1 immunization, and 17% reported that some of their children had received at least 1 immunization. So it is clear that the tropes of 'the Amish don't get autism' and 'the Amish don't vaccinate', cannot possibly be true.)

Prevalence Rates of Autism Spectrum Disorders Among the Old Order Amish

Genetics, Medicine, and the Plain People
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#64
(09-13-2025, 06:10 PM)annonentity Wrote: It is strange how the kids seem to get it after  a multiple vaccination shot.

Immunizations most usually begin at 6 weeks old, with immunisations continuing at 3 months, 5 months, 1 year, 15 months, and then 4 years.

Severe autism is usually first diagnosed at the age of 2-3 years, but high function autism is harder to determine and is usually diagnosed during K-12 schooling.

There is a fairly major statistical mis-correlation (by more than 2 years) between immunizations and autism diagnosis.
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#65
All you have done is given out a load of Pharma paid for studies to prove that their wares have not caused damage, just in case someone puts two and two together and reaches an opposite conclusion and starts legal proceedings. 
  Plus no normal member on here would go such great lengths to prove a suspect narrative unless some vested interested party was involved.
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(09-14-2025, 07:51 PM)annonentity Wrote: All you have done is given out a load of Pharma paid for studies to prove that their wares have not caused damage, just in case someone puts two and two together and reaches an opposite conclusion and starts legal proceedings. 
  Plus no normal member on here would go such great lengths to prove a suspect narrative unless some vested interested party was involved.

Urging people to avoid lifesaving medicines will kill people who may have otherwise have been saved. I would prefer that people could know the truth from verifiable, credentialled and audited sources.

Around the world, statistics show that modern medicine is improving lifespans and reducing disease. There is no question about it.

In many 1st world countries, health is about health, and less about $. The US practice of evaluating everything in purely monetary terms means that in the US, community general health will never improve past a certain level, despite technological and medical improvements. And illness will continue to go hand-in-hand with poverty (which the US also can't keep under control).

Trying to convince people to avoid safe practices has lead to many unneccesary deaths and a lot of untreated chronic disease. That is what it has always done.

What is your motivation for doing that?
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(09-14-2025, 07:51 PM)annonentity Wrote: All you have done is given out a load of Pharma paid for studies to prove that their wares have not caused damage, just in case someone puts two and two together and reaches an opposite conclusion and starts legal proceedings. 

  Plus no normal member on here would go such great lengths to prove a suspect narrative unless some vested interested party was involved.

That sounds like an excuse deflection to me -- from someone who knows nothing on this subject.

I've been raising an Autistic for 17 years -- read everything there is to read (or at least seems like it).

His doctor explains every med he takes in detail.  What it does, side effects, and more.
#68
Believe what you want , but when someone says , it is safe and effective and one size fits all, Tries to hide evidence for 75 years. Then threatens peoples livelihood if they do not take the medicine. Which  does not stop you getting the illness or passing it on. When this is general knowledge Only an idiot would take it. and only an idiot would continue to push it.
#69
(09-14-2025, 04:28 PM)chr0naut Wrote: In my post just quoted by you, I made no mention of the opiate crisis. Neither did Annee

Nor did I, nor Annee, conflate years into just 9 months (it has been 9 years since 2016).

Good god. You were directly implying the FDA, which is in charge of that shit. Has in 9 months become defunct. They were never any use to begin with.

It's a round and round she goes deflection talking to democrats.
                                   
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(09-14-2025, 03:37 PM)covent Wrote: Also, are you suggesting other mentally diverse people have been 'caused' by humans? Are people with Downs Syndrome 'caused'? Are their parents to blame? For not eating what they are told to eat? 
Am I suggesting humans have cause birth defects? Are you kidding me? Is this some sort of joke? Have you ever heard of lead? How about plastic? Those are some of the more well known causes. 
Quote:Preventing these conditions would be a travesty. I love and accept myself as I am, as I understand it, that is a very healthy viewpoint.

Umm no, and no, and hell no! It would not be a travesty. What is a travesty is some people prefer the birth defects. Looks like you prefer to keep lead and plastic, along with the birth defects they cause..

You may find this hard to believe. You will have a hard time finding people that will tell you they want their child to be born with birth defects. I am sure most parents who have children with birth defects love them and would not trade them for any thing. But if you ask then before they have a child. They are going to tell you, they would not want that for their child. And who in their right mind would?