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(01-26-2026, 10:19 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The host state keeps sovereignty Harte.
The US gets base rights.
So jurisdiction over its forces, equipment, and operational control inside the bases.
That's standard NATO/SOFA protocol, including Greenland.
Again, the nation's sovereignty is simply not on the table. That's in the negotiations.
Previously, the host state would keep sovereignty.
This time, the US is negotiating for sovereignty over pockets of land.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/us/po...force.html
Not unprecedented. The UK holds sovereignty over two bases they have in Cyprus.
https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/default/...icosia.pdf
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(01-26-2026, 10:35 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: No very rarely means no. Even with women.
Not that I'm saying Denmark is asking for it...
Now that just sounds sick and twisted.
"No" does indeed mean "no" esspecilly so where women are concerned.
Do you have any daughters, Ultra?
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(01-26-2026, 10:38 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Now that just sounds sick and twisted.
I thought that might trigger you. But that wasn't my primary purpose. It is true. Usually, in any negotiation, "no" means "the necessary conditions have not yet been met". It's most often a temporary situation. At least for winners.
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(01-26-2026, 10:37 AM)Harte Wrote: That's in the negotiations.
Previously, the host state would keep sovereignty.
This time, the US is negotiating for sovereignty over pockets of land.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/us/po...force.html
Not unprecedented. The UK holds sovereignty over two bases they have in Cyprus.
https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/default/...icosia.pdf
Harte
Pockets of the land for military or commercial purposes?
Again, you can already put as many bases as you please, within reason, where Greenland is concerned.
Seems to me you are negotiating for something you already have.
Good luck with that.
Sovereignty is still not on the table.
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(01-26-2026, 10:41 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I thought that might trigger you. But that wasn't my primary purpose. It is true. Usually, in any negotiation, "no" means "the necessary conditions have not yet been met". It's most often a temporary situation. At least for winners.
Oh i know exactly what you thought.
And im well aware of your ""purpose"".
"No" means "No", the only people who can't accept that premise tend to be losers or rapists.
Beast wings in both our respective nations' jails are full of animals that think just like that, so...
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(01-26-2026, 10:37 AM)Harte Wrote: That's in the negotiations.
Previously, the host state would keep sovereignty.
This time, the US is negotiating for sovereignty over pockets of land.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/us/po...force.html
Not unprecedented. The UK holds sovereignty over two bases they have in Cyprus.
https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/default/...icosia.pdf
Harte
I can't seem to find anything about sovereignty in Greenland other than Trump's own comments?? Which we know can't be trusted.
ETA
I found your story reposted by other news outlets, but from what I've read so far, Greenland have no interest in giving up any sovereignty.
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(01-26-2026, 10:35 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: No very rarely means no. Even with women.
Not that I'm saying Denmark is asking for it...
Steady now, steady....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(01-26-2026, 10:41 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Sovereignty is still not on the table. 
Do you have a punch-card where after a dozen toothless claims you get a free Danish?
Even the New York Times is qualifying Denmark's current refusal as what they are "publicly" saying.
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(01-26-2026, 10:32 AM)Kurokage Wrote: They do actually work under water.
Maybe stop trying to make excuses for Dozzy Don??
Not making any excuses at all.
The fact that I know the subject concerns these gigantic electromagnetic lifts and catapults used on aircraft carriers just means I was paying attention at the time and not getting my news from internet memes and clips.
That basically shows the bias in the stupid "demonstration" of magnets in the ridiculous video.
Let him try dropping an electromagnet with a charge running through it in his little beaker.
It seems normal to me that someone in charge of the armed forces would evince skepticism concerning electromagnetic catapults (especially) on aircraft carriers.
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(01-26-2026, 10:46 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Do you have a punch-card where after a dozen toothless claims you get a free Danish?
Hands you and Trump a big mirror, and right back at you.
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