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(01-21-2026, 05:55 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Are US interests being served. Is Trump taking more effective steps to limit the influence of Russia and China in the western hemisphere than Biden.



Does anyone know the specs of this new framework?

How much has it expanded on the agreement already in place that allowed the US to build as many bases as they'd want to strengthen security of Artic region

US also already had access for industrial mining

Trump said repeatedly he wanted to own Denmark and make it part of the US

We'll see if this "new" deal lives up to his initial demands
(01-21-2026, 05:56 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Aww c'mon. We didn't even get around to the part where we started hating on Lego.

Everyone was used again....

I actually cried that my America had lost its f*cking mind and was going to use this to rage quit NATO and take Greenland while accusing Denmark of Genocide - of something we did WAY more of... like tyrannical hypocrites doing an impression of the third reich. 

I guess we elected Dr. Evil to periodically hijack a nuclear warhead and hold the world hostage for 100 billion dollars.   

And i dont want leave NATO.  I want the globalists to win Trump back so he can reaffirm George H. W. Bush's 1990 speech.
Quote:What is at stake is more than one small country; it is a big idea: a new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind—peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law. Such is a world worthy of our struggle and worthy of our children's future."

I WANT THAT GLOBALIST VEIL BACK.
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(01-21-2026, 06:03 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I guess I'm confused on the policing of Greenland. You keep pointing to the point of forced sterilizations. But we did that as well. Hell, we forcefully took Indian kids and put them in catholic boarding schools well into the 70's to try and teach the Indian out of them. 
Not because we couldn't afford to adequately patrol far-flung, investment-starved territories.  

Reprehensible, yes, but it didn't indicate NATO needed to step in and either invade or get us to step up our defense.

Think about it.  Greenland is loaded with oil and valuable minerals, but runs on a heavily subsidized fishing industry, and they were managing the native population by sterilizing them, and NATO has allegedly been telling them they need to step up security for 20 years.  Don't those things add up to the fact that the Danes weren't adequately managing security by keeping Greenland on a shoestring?
(01-21-2026, 06:12 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: I actually cried that my America had lost its mind 


Like when Trump 1.0 got elected it was going to be WW III.

Then Biden got in and Putin invaded the Ukraine where Europe is like we can’t do much because Putin will nuke us.

But now Trump is back in office, people are claiming what?  Trump is weak while going on about we can’t provoke Putin because Putin said nuclear war?  After falsely claiming bombing Iran was going to be WW III.  After claiming Venezuela was going to be a never ending ground war.

I think the only people that have lost their minds are the ones that keep contacting themselves like those with TDS and pray Trump fails at putting the US in a better position than what Biden left it.
(01-21-2026, 06:10 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Half of you all are saying Trump isn’t doing enough.  The other half too much.

Make up your minds…

Half of who?

There are a lot of world views out there. We're a nation of 350m~. I'm not sure who you're trying to group me in with.

Trump's going against his own campaign promises of no new wars, no regime change, no being global police. That's not a huge surprise to me, I voted for him in his first term, and was unhappy with his flop on fiscal responsibility. That's been my biggest voting issue. It's why Ron Paul is the only candidate I fully supported, and why Trump was the only R or D I've ever given my vote to for president as a gamble. 

That was all for show to win votes. We're seeing where his real loyalty lies, and it's not with the populace who have consistently voted for candidates who claimed to be anti war after Bush. It's to the donor class who are very selective about the countries they care about.

Because at the end of the day, drugs, dictatorships... that's not enough to compel the US into war. We support governments who are engaged in drugs and or are dictatorships. There are brutal countries out there who commit massacres. Doesn't even make it into the news unless you really dig.

There's only interest if they can sell it to the American people to fund it so they can cash out. You and I won't see any of the "spoils of war", we will just foot the bill.
(01-21-2026, 06:11 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Does anyone know the specs of this new framework?

Trump already got the Danes to invest more in Greenland security, and the US is still keeping its military presence on Greenland.  The important thing is to keep Russia and China out.
(01-21-2026, 06:21 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Trump's going against his own campaign promises of no new wars,


What war would that be?
(01-21-2026, 06:20 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Like when Trump 1.0 got elected it was going to be WW III.

Then Biden got in and Putin invaded the Ukraine where Europe is like we can’t do much because Putin will nuke us.

But now Trump is back in office, people are claiming what?  Trump is weak while going on about we can’t provoke Putin because Putin said nuclear war?  After falsely claiming bombing Iran was going to be WW III.  After claiming Venezuela was going to be a never ending ground war.

I think the only people that have lost their minds are the ones that keep contacting themselves like those with TDS and pray Trump fails at putting the US in a better position than what Biden left it.

The issue with Venezuela was how fighting narcoterrorism was used as the cover for taking oil


(01-21-2026, 06:26 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: What war would that be?


By that logic we haven't been at war since WWII.
(01-21-2026, 06:29 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: By that logic we haven't been at war since WWII.


What territory today does the US have using troops on the ground engaging in ongoing combat to hold and expand that territory.