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(01-20-2026, 10:54 AM)Kurokage Wrote: You were the one saying lets offer them a small little piece of land and just take what we want!!
No

You seem self-entitled to artistic license.  My post was short, quote the whole thing so everyone can see the words you now attribute to me are actually your words.




 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(01-20-2026, 01:24 PM)fwki Wrote: You seem self-entitled to artistic license.  My post was short, quote the whole thing so everyone can see the words you now attribute to me are actually your words.


What ever makes you feel better with your comments about segregating the Greenlanders on their own land.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(01-20-2026, 12:17 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Flirting isn't the issue 
Aggressive posturing or all out assault is the problem 

Trump's demeanor is giving a "rapey" vibe

Who cares, it's how Trump is, and he isn't gonna change. 

It's his negotiation tactics, no more, no less.

I don't like it either, it is what it is

MIC corporations are the oldest and carry the most influence, likely own the most politicians.

The MIC will make billions WHEN a Greenland deal is done.

 That’s simply how Trump operates, and he isn’t going to change.

His negotiation tactics are what they are—no more, no less.  That’s the reality we’re dealing with. 

Go read his history of being the bull in the USFL "China" shop in the $1 Dollar League and or the "Art of Deal."  


This doesn’t alter the basic facts.

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We’ve already allowed China and Russia to establish a foothold in Africa, and now Australia, in regions where we had no presence, or there are weak-minded governments in charge

Now, those African rare earth minerals—once overlooked—will generate billions for China as they take advantage of African nations,
undermining the entire continent.

In 20 years, who do you want to see as a dominant presence in the Arctic basin:

America, China, or Russia?

It’s far wiser to plan for this now than to sit idly by like we did with NATO. 

Everybody believed Uncle Sammy would always pay for it, as well as do all the heavy lifting, forever and ever, as the 7 other lead NATO nations SPENT as low as possible for defense against Russia and manipulated the lower-tiered EU nations.

And if we are controlled by a shadow goverment it definitely has a huge MIC component pushing this, especially if all the hoopla about the Dome is halfway true.

Here's the last President who was skeptical of the then mostly American MIC
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 and now that CIA/MIC matrix is established worldwide and heavily influences NATO and other governments around the globe.


Trump wanted Maduro, but the message is clear:

The American MIC engineered that raid,
just like they engineered the Osama raid
just like they dominated Iraq and Afghanistan
its what thery do and they are very good at it. 

Did you see where China did a faux raid on Taiwan's leader, in answer
to Uncle Sammy's Special Forces, decimating the Cuban Special Forces guarding Maduro

We live in a world dominated by corporations. China believes war with the West is inevitable... they believe because there is no stability in leadership, the US can be exploited,


know thy enemy 
Quote:There is no publicly available exact number of Chinese agents (meaning intelligence officers, spies, or operatives from agencies like China's Ministry of State Security (MSS) or other state entities) currently operating in the United States. Official U.S. government sources, such as the FBI, ODNI, or congressional reports, do not release precise, real-time counts of undetected foreign agents, as such information is classified and inherently estimative.
Key points from reliable, recent sources include:
  • The FBI has long described China as the top counterintelligence threat, with statements (e.g., from former Director Christopher Wray in 2020, still referenced) noting that nearly half of the FBI's ~5,000 active counterintelligence cases relate to China, and a new China-related case opens roughly every 10 hours. This scale persists into recent years, with ongoing cases involving espionage, economic theft, and transnational repression.
  • Publicly reported instances of Chinese espionage in the U.S. (from 2000 onward) total around 224 documented cases according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) through 2023, with additional cases continuing (e.g., House Homeland Security Committee reports note 60+ CCP-related espionage cases from 2021–2024/2025 across 20 states).
  • China's MSS is described as the world's largest and most active spy agency, with one estimate of up to 600,000 employees overall (not all focused on the U.S.), per experts cited in CBS News/60 Minutes reporting (2025). The U.S. is a primary target.
  • No credible, current official estimate gives a specific figure like "X thousand agents in the U.S." Some older or dissident-sourced claims (e.g., 25,000+ from years ago) circulate but lack verification from U.S. intelligence.
  • Much Chinese espionage involves non-traditional methods: cyber operations, talent recruitment programs, private citizens or students coerced/recruited, influence operations, and economic theft (often via insiders rather than classic "spies"). The U.S. has indicted dozens in recent years for related activities, but the undetected number is unknown.
In short, while Chinese intelligence activity in the U.S. is extensive, aggressive, and a major priority for the FBI and other agencies, any precise count of "agents currently in the US" remains classified or unknowable publicly. The threat is measured more by case volume, economic impact (hundreds of billions in IP theft annually), and ongoing operations than by a headcount. For the latest official views, check fbi.gov/chinathreat or DNI annual threat assessments.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(01-20-2026, 01:50 PM)putnam6 Wrote: know thy enemy 


You said: we’ve already allowed China and Russia to establish a foothold in Africa, and now Australia, in regions where we had no presence, or there are weak-minded governments in charge

ha ha. You didn't allow anything, those countries did a deal with China and both sides are getting exactly what they want. It's called free trade.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-20-2026, 01:50 PM)putnam6 Wrote: In 20 years, who do you want to see with a dominant presence in the Arctic basin:

America, China, or Russia?



 


Who cares?

Doesn't matter 

It will be a technocratic monarchy either way
(01-20-2026, 02:17 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Who cares?

Doesn't matter 

It will be a technocratic monarchy either way

And those three countries will be known as "The Board of Peace Puppets" for the technocrats.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-20-2026, 02:17 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Who cares?

Doesn't matter 

It will be a technocratic monarchy either way

Not in 20 years, maybe 30 ... highly unlikely before we have that kind of political tectonic plate shift, there will be war, and if there isn't a war, the GP will likely wish there was one. 

What's the hidden PTB incentive to PUBLICALLY install a technocratic monarchy?

Are you suggesting we have some techno dweeb as President, or is the President just owned by the technocratic monarchy?

Why would the MIC relinquish its long-held position of power?

Sure, other corporations and industries wield influence, but control over the MIC is doubtful
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(01-20-2026, 04:01 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Not in 20 years, maybe 30 ... highly unlikely before we have that kind of political tectonic plate shift, there will be war, and if there isn't a war, the GP will likely wish there was one. 

What's the hidden PTB incentive to PUBLICALLY install a technocratic monarchy?

Are you suggesting we have some techno dweeb as President, or is the President just owned by the technocratic monarchy?

Why would the MIC relinquish its long-held position of power?

Sure, other corporations and industries wield influence, but control over the MIC is doubtful

AI companies got a seat at the table. Trump has been just as active in military action than Obama and Bush. He wants to increase the defense budget to 1.5t.

How is tech and MIC losing?
(01-20-2026, 10:48 AM)Truthhurts Wrote: I am raising this issue once more because your side seems to show concern for this topic, but only in Denmark, while simultaneously supporting Trump as he distorts history right now. Essentially, I am requesting that your side cease pretending to care about this matter while it is actively occurring in America.

Denmark's sterilization of natives 20 years ago betrays that they can't afford to manage and police the indigenous population of Greenland.  

That suggests they can't effectively secure the place from Chinese and Russian encroachment. 

A little pressure to economically develop the place with foreign investment would allow them to more effectively protect Greenland and treat the natives more humanely.   The US probably won't just invade unless there were genuine security risks and they could bring NATO on board. 

God forbid that the Danes' motives could be Viking pride and colonialism instead of lack of development capital, because it implies they could be secretly dealing with China and Russia behind the scenes in order to get a deal they like.