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(01-18-2026, 04:55 AM)Thetruth Wrote: You (and clearly not Trump) don't get that with artic warfare you don't just dump entire battalions into such terrain right?
That's why Finland chewed up the soviets so badly with such a small force.
You have to start slow and develop slowly.
The less than fifty military personnel in Greenland are not there for "defense" per se.
They are there consulting and doing recon to develop ideas of how to better defend Greenland.
That's a direct acknowledgement of what Trump is concerned about.
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Sooner or later ... America will have to defend Greenland, and it would be lots easier
If Uncle Sam is properly prepared and has enough permanent bases
Look at the map and tell me how Europe can defend Greenland or the Arctic basin
Russia-China alliance: Their deepening ties include joint Arctic patrols, infrastructure, and resource projects, raising fears of encirclement. A closer Canada-China link could indirectly aid Chinese Arctic access via investments or routes, heightening U.S. worries over North American defense (e.g., Northwest Passage sovereignty).
Tensions remain high in this emerging great-power contest.
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The map explains why THE USA has to have Greenland. As the events happening suggest Canada is leaning more towards China. Russia and China are allies. Canadians don't want to associate with China but the government wants to. Alberta is having a referendum for independence.
It is a grave concern for the National Security of the USA and the world.
Greenland has a critical Arctic position — controlling key shipping routes, rare earth minerals, and military vantage points (e.g., Thule Air Base) as ice melts and new passages open. This makes it vital for U.S. national security amid rising Russia-China influence in the region.
U.S. push for Greenland:
In January 2026, President Trump has intensified efforts to acquire or control Greenland, citing threats from Russia (militarizing the Arctic) and China (seeking resources and "Polar Silk Road" access).
Options discussed include purchase, tariffs on Denmark, or even military means.
Canada's shift toward China: PM Mark Carney visited Beijing on January 16, 2026, securing a preliminary "strategic partnership." It slashes tariffs — Canada drops to ~6.1% on limited Chinese EVs
(up to 49,000 units);
China cuts duties on Canadian canola (~15% by March), lobsters, peas, etc. This diversifies trade away from the U.S., but many Canadians remain wary of China due to past coercion and security concerns. The government frames it as pragmatic adaptation.
Russia-China alliance: Their deepening ties include joint Arctic patrols, infrastructure, and resource projects, raising fears of encirclement. A closer Canada-China link could indirectly aid Chinese Arctic access via investments or routes, heightening U.S. worries over North American defense (e.g., Northwest Passage sovereignty).
Tensions remain high in this emerging great-power contest.
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(01-18-2026, 09:00 AM)Kurokage Wrote: It's the other way around, Europe and the UK would be saving the American people from an evil tyrant who wants to destroy all of America's closest allies.
America's closest allies are in the process of destroying themselves.
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(01-18-2026, 09:17 AM)Kurokage Wrote: If Europe grew a back bone, and stood up the Dozzy Don, he would back down, he does it regularly, I mean his other nick name is TACO after all.
If Europe grew a backbone, they would stop incarcerating people for expressing their views.
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(01-19-2026, 03:05 PM)Truthhurts Wrote: It's disheartening to see what they are doing to DI; they have ruined ATS with their persistent falsehoods and mental instability, and now they are applying the same tactics to DI.
There is an overwhelming amount of lies and propaganda now flooding DI.
Indeed. I have even been accused of nuking ATS!
Pathetic and sad. Deny Ignorance, people.
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(01-18-2026, 11:07 AM)Nerb Wrote: I still want to know why Greenland is covered in ice and Iceland is covered in Green.
Is there a bridge for sale too?
Trump will build a bridge from Greenland to Iceland.
The greatest, most beautiful bridge that ever existed.
And it will pay for itself with tolls - and fees for opening the drawbridge section.
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(01-19-2026, 03:34 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Sooner or later ... America will have to defend Greenland, and it would be lots easier
If Uncle Sam is properly prepared and has enough permanent bases
Look at the map and tell me how Europe can defend Greenland or the Arctic basin
Russia-China alliance: Their deepening ties include joint Arctic patrols, infrastructure, and resource projects, raising fears of encirclement. A closer Canada-China link could indirectly aid Chinese Arctic access via investments or routes, heightening U.S. worries over North American defense (e.g., Northwest Passage sovereignty).
Tensions remain high in this emerging great-power contest.
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How might Russia invade Greenland? They can't even take neighbouring Ukraine.
China seems more interested in Taiwan.
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(01-18-2026, 11:32 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: This is a well-thought out post. Fact is, I believe the situation is not simplistic, it is complex and no single force or agenda is at play, but many. There is the issue of Russia and China, sure. But there is also movement with the evolving role of NATO, US-EU alignment, rare mineral and resource economics, next-generation defence system deployment, the increasing traversability of the Northwest Passage and its impact on the balance of Pacific/Atlantic trade flow versus Central America, offshore oil feasibility, the role of Canada, economics of data-centre cooling, transhumanist fantasies, and and so many other things. Denmark is not in a position to give Greenland the advantages it can gain from its position in these events; America is. I suppose we'll see how it all plays out.
Don't forget the desire to limit China's further monopolization of minerals.
That's the same as Venezuela. It wasn't really about drugs, it was about preventing China, Russia and Iran from obtaining a foothold in the Western Hemisphere, whether that be territorial or economic.
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When US talks about Greenland solely from the context of what America wants and what America needs without any consideration for the opinions and sovereignty of the citizens of Greenland, that's pure exploitation
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