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(08-26-2025, 01:29 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: By "you guys" I presume you assume that anyone who dares to be a mite critical of your Dear Leader is some kind of Leftist?

And a fool?

Well, the insults keep on coming.

I am not remotely on the Left, nor am I a fool.

The same fools that keep falling for media and lying politicians that keep using lies to try to frame Trump and they keep falling for it.

Do I like Trump.  He is taking the country in a better direction than Biden.

But I can understand the fable concerning the boy who cried wolf one too many times.   Yet, Trump is going after drug cartels and human trafficking in ways Biden neglected.  So you have the democrats falsely crying wolf while Trump is actually going after persons responsible for large scale hums trafficking being ignored by democrats.  That mean by your logic democrats are in legal with drug cartels?
(08-26-2025, 01:38 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Why did Trump’s administration turn a complete 180 on releasing the files


I have repeatedly given the likely answer.  You just don’t like what is probably the truth because it doesn’t fit your agenda.

Like Adam Schiff was going to release all that supposed evidence he had on Trump Russia Collusion?  Then never produced.  

It’s more likely Trump ran his mouth, then found the “evidence” he claimed during the campaign never existed.
(08-26-2025, 01:40 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: "The same fools that keep falling for media and lying politicians that keep using lies to try to frame Trump and they keep falling for it.

Do I like Trump.  He is taking the country in a better direction than Biden.

But I can understand the fable concerning the boy who cried wolf one too many times.   Yet, Trump is going after drug cartels and human trafficking in ways Biden neglected.  So you have the democrats falsely crying wolf while Trump is actually going after persons responsible for large scale hums trafficking being ignored by democrats.  That mean by your logic democrats are in legal with drug cartels?"

Your logic is flawed.

I'm not a Democrat!
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(08-26-2025, 01:44 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: I have repeatedly given the likely answer.  You just don’t like what is probably the truth because it doesn’t fit your agenda.

Like Adam Schiff was going to release all that supposed evidence he had on Trump Russia Collusion?  Then never produced.  

It’s more likely Trump ran his mouth, then found the “evidence” he claimed during the campaign never existed.

Maybe liberals don't mind if their political leaders lie to them

Or maybe they're just stupid sheep who don't realize they're being played

There's a percentage of MAGA who don't like being lied to and they're not happy at the thought of being played or trolled by Trump

You may think Trump supporters should just passively submit to every move Trump makes, even when he's wrong

But there's a portion of his base who don't agree to that and they're not going to simply lay down and take it

So if this is a rug pull from Trump against his own base just to acquire votes...

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
(08-26-2025, 12:18 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Whataboutism....is that it?
No.
The pedophile thing brought it to my mind.

Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“   Bertrand Russell
(08-26-2025, 12:22 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: So what do you think about this

Should Trump investigate the Bidens including Hunter's laptop

Or should he just let it all go

Personally, I suspect Biden used his office to enrich himself and his entire family as VP.
I think anything subsequent to that was probably run by his family or maybe just his wife.
He was obviously not up to it.
But I don't know that it harmed the US. We can't know that without an investigation, and maybe not even with one.

Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“   Bertrand Russell
(08-26-2025, 12:52 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: You better prepare yourselves because the Epstein battle is going to reignite when Congress gets back from recess next week

It's going to go on and on and on

Trump could have avoided all of this if Bondi would've simply released the files as promised

It will be interesting to hear the testimony from the witnesses they've subpoenaed.
It will also be interesting to see which of those witnesses plead the fifth.

Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“   Bertrand Russell
(08-26-2025, 01:38 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Constantly reverting to the arguments 

'Why didn't Biden release the files' or 'show the evidence Trump is a pedophile'

Are absolute red herrings because it detracts from the real question 

Why did Trump’s administration turn a complete 180 on releasing the files

Bondi lied
Patel lied
Bongino lied
Trump lied

If Biden and his administration had pulled the exact same stunts that Trump’s administration is pulling I know damn well MAGA and conservatives in general would never let it go

Yet, we are all expected to just let it go if it's Trump

""Why did Trump’s administration turn a complete 180 on releasing the files""

Obvious. Because they started discovering planted fake files by the thousands and now they have to decipher what was there before and what's fake. Neat setup after Nov 5th happened.  Eureka

Now It's turned into a wild ass red herring loop de loop  Lol
(08-26-2025, 05:30 PM)xuenchen Wrote: ""Why did Trump’s administration turn a complete 180 on releasing the files""

Obvious. Because they started discovering planted fake files by the thousands and now they have to decipher what was there before and what's fake. Neat setup after Nov 5th happened.  Eureka

Now It's turned into a wild ass red herring loop de loop  Lol

If this is factual, we should be hearing about an investigation into the lawbreakers very soon

But I don't expect that to happen because the FBI has officially closed the Epstein case and Trump has made it abundantly clear he wants the whole thing to just go away
(08-26-2025, 01:18 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: This is the simple minded response I expect from you guys.

So Biden didn't attempt to prove Trump's guilt to save Harris's ass because they are in it.

He could have hidden his guilt and released only the evidence of Trump's guilt and none of you fools would have known.

This would never fly

If Biden released incriminating evidence against only Trump or only Republicans or conservatives, it would look like a blatant coverup because too many people know about Clinton's and other Democrat involvement



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