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(08-23-2025, 08:24 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The same person who was charged with perjury in connection with her 2016 depositions.
Who are they going to pull out next to suggest Trump knows nothing?
Or has any connection to the convicted pedophile he was best friends with for 14 odd years, Bill Cosby ffs? 
This just shows that it doesn't matter what comes out, if Trump isn't implicated.
It won't be enough for people like you.
Trump actually testified against Epstein in an earlier case that Epstein managed to pay his way out of.
Pretty reckless behavior if you're relying on Epstein to keep his mouth shut.
Democrats had control of all of this for 4 years, all the while telling lies about Trump.
Here's a thing you think is actually true, but they released none of it.
I guess those Dems were closet MAGAs?
Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“ Bertrand Russell
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(08-24-2025, 12:16 PM)Harte Wrote: This just shows that it doesn't matter what comes out, if Trump isn't implicated.
It won't be enough for people like you.
Trump actually testified against Epstein in an earlier case that Epstein managed to pay his way out of.
Pretty reckless behavior if you're relying on Epstein to keep his mouth shut.
Democrats had control of all of this for 4 years, all the while telling lies about Trump.
Here's a thing you think is actually true, but they released none of it.
I guess those Dems were closet MAGAs?
Harte
Sorry, but that take simply doesn't hold up.
Trump didn't really "testify against" Epstein.
He gave a brief statement, in a civil case, saying Epstein wasn't welcome at Mar-a-Lago after a dispute, which isn't some heroic move or gesture.
As to the dispute, it turns out that it involved Epstein poaching an underage masseuse from the spa at Mar-a-Lago, aka Virginia Defray.
And both Republicans and Democrats have influenced Epstein-related investigations.
But most of the files stayed sealed because of court rules and ongoing cases, not because Dems were secretly protecting Trump.
The idea that Democrats controlled "all of it" for 4 years isn't true either.
Your Department of Justice and courts operate independently.
And saying they're "closet MAGAs" is just spin to distract from the actual evidence process.
As to the "people like you" comment, slippery slope there, buddy.
If it doesn't matter what comes out, then why the lack of transparency?
Trust comes from openness, and since Epstein's case touches so many elites, the public already suspects favoritism.
If more was explained, like why some names stay sealed, what's being investigated, or why Ghislaine Maxwell was moved to a minimum security holiday camp, and for what reason, people might feel less like the system is rigged.
But as it stands....
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(08-24-2025, 12:16 PM)Harte Wrote: This just shows that it doesn't matter what comes out, if Trump isn't implicated.
It won't be enough for people like you.
Trump actually testified against Epstein in an earlier case that Epstein managed to pay his way out of.
Pretty reckless behavior if you're relying on Epstein to keep his mouth shut.
Democrats had control of all of this for 4 years, all the while telling lies about Trump.
Here's a thing you think is actually true, but they released none of it.
I guess those Dems were closet MAGAs?
Harte
Then we've got people like you on the extreme opposite end of that stick who are hellbent on shielding Trump from any consequence or repercussions come what may
So yeah, we're never going to get the truth
Doesn't change the fact that Trump was neck deep in that sleazy modeling fashion industry pipeline & racket for two main purposes -- easy money and easy access to YOUNG beautiful girls
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(08-24-2025, 05:55 AM)andy06shake Wrote: As far as im aware Maurene Comey was one of several prosecutors on the Epstein case.
Not some secret deep-state puppet master.
And her role as a prosecutor is not directly connected to Trump or Biden in any meaningful way.
Claiming the Epstein case was manipulated to protect Trump while ignoring "evidence" is baseless and ignores the actual timeline.
And pretending it's some "cover-up" for Trump is laughable, when Trump himself partied with Epstein, and admits they were friends.
Was she a failure because of incompetence, or because of a planned failure?
Maurene Comey fired from Trump DOJ after she 'failed' in two major cases, expert says: 'Absolute mess'
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(08-24-2025, 12:43 PM)xuenchen Wrote: Was she a failure because of incompetence, or because of a planned failure? 
Maurene Comey fired from Trump DOJ after she 'failed' in two major cases, expert says: 'Absolute mess'
I don't have a clue, but if it were a "planned failure" you would imagine she at least would have gotten a Netflix deal out of it.
Trials flop all the time, jurors, lack of evidence....
Hardly equates to her being some sort of democrat mastermind.
Capable of planting Epstein evidence grenades timed to go off 4 years later, put it that way.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(08-24-2025, 12:43 PM)xuenchen Wrote: Was she a failure because of incompetence, or because of a planned failure? 
Maurene Comey fired from Trump DOJ after she 'failed' in two major cases, expert says: 'Absolute mess'
Perhaps your Lord Trump should be fired for incompetence?
Along with all his little toadies?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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08-24-2025, 02:34 PM
This post was last modified: 08-24-2025, 02:36 PM by cherokeetroy. 
Looked further into Paolo Zampolli -- Epstein/Maxwell friend & associate
He started out as an Italian modeling agent/scout. 'Discovered' Melania in Milan and got her the Einstein visa to come to the states. Hooked her up with Trump and he continued climbing the social ladder
He went into business with Trump selling real estate. He started hanging out with ppl like Bill Clinton & Ron Burkle. He threw lavish parties and made sure plenty of models were present to mingle with the millionaires
Eventually, he became Ambassador of Dominica to the UN. He became well known at the United Nations for throwing "mixers" and bringing in super models to meet the dignitaries
It was around this time, he was accused of running an escort service
Now, he works in Trump's administration as Special Envoy for Global Partnerships
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(08-24-2025, 12:37 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Then we've got people like you on the extreme opposite end of that stick who are hellbent on shielding Trump from any consequence or repercussions come what may
So yeah, we're never going to get the truth
Doesn't change the fact that Trump was neck deep in that sleazy modeling fashion industry pipeline & racket for two main purposes -- easy money and easy access to YOUNG beautiful girls
I'm not defending Trump at all. There is no evidence of anything to defend him from, ffs.
Just pointing out that NO outcome other than Trump being proven to be a pedophile will satisfy you.
If nothing implicating Trump comes out, then automatically he must be hiding something.
Illogical conclusion and also just dumb.
Assumed innocence is the norm, the default poition, because what if he is innocent? Then nothing implicating him can come out, can it.
But that would convince you he's guilty - the mere absence of evidence, which one would expect for an innocent person.
Harte
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08-24-2025, 04:28 PM
This post was last modified: 08-24-2025, 04:28 PM by cherokeetroy. 
(08-24-2025, 03:56 PM)Harte Wrote: I'm not defending Trump at all. There is no evidence of anything to defend him from, ffs.
Just pointing out that NO outcome other than Trump being proven to be a pedophile will satisfy you.
If nothing implicating Trump comes out, then automatically he must be hiding something.
Illogical conclusion and also just dumb.
Assumed innocence is the norm, the default poition, because what if he is innocent? Then nothing implicating him can come out, can it.
But that would convince you he's guilty - the mere absence of evidence, which one would expect for an innocent person.
Harte
Trump loyalists are every bit as bad as Clinton/Obama/Biden loyalists when it comes to evading the truth
You all will lie and literally sell your own souls in order to protect your idols
If any of you ever wonders why corruption in politics runs rampant, look no further than the closest mirror
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