Gerrymander based on ideology instead of race

[DBCowboy]

It's very telling that when things don't go the way that the left wants, they immediately try to change the rules.

Also amusing that they demand term limits for the Executive branch and now the Judicial branch of government, but not for themselves.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Newsflash:

"Supreme Court Sets Off Gerrymandering Frenzy

The justices can no longer pretend to be above politics."

"The raw power grabs on display may be just the kind of thing to rouse voters to anger. Yes, midterm elections in November will turn on issues such as affordability and the war in Iran. But when people feel something being wrested away from them, they can fight back.

And Congress must act. It can ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide, in red states and blue states alike.
It should enact legislation to make clear that American citizens can sue to protect their right to vote when it is infringed. Legislation should give voters of color a meaningful opportunity to prove intentional discrimination, and it should make sure that judges apply strict scrutiny to laws that impinge on the franchise.

And Congress should recognize the danger of an unelected Supreme Court — highly ideological, appointed for life — taking a hammer to laws that uphold political equality. This past month reinforces the need for Court reform, including an 18-year term limit for justices. " (LLM)

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/a...ing-frenzy

Erm. No laws were changed in this decision by the Supreme Court. Only how existing laws apply was changed. 

Mayde the laws should have been written better when they were passed.

[BeyondKnowledge]

I actually never posted that the border was "closed" under Biden.

I believe you stated the border was not open then. The opposite of open is closed. Closed is another word for not open.

Could you show us where you get the news about the USA that is hurting you? We would like to see it too. That news may be the problem here.

[quintessentone]

Erm. No laws were changed in this decision by the Supreme Court. Only how existing laws apply was changed. 

Mayde the laws should have been written better when they were passed.

Maybe those laws will be rewritten, yet.

[chr0naut]

I believe you stated the border was not open then. The opposite of open is closed. Closed is another word for not open.

At no time after the 1800's has the border been open, where people could cross it freely and unhindered, and where there were no patrolling officers whose sole purpose is to police the border. When Trump says Biden opened the border it is a lie.

At the same time, people have been allowed across the border, but they had to either escape detection entirely, or otherwise be compliant with legal entry criteria. When Trump says he closed the border, it is a lie.

So, not open and not closed. Reality is messy like that.

The whole thing is bound up in long standing statutory law which hasn't significantly changed for either administration. Trump's policies to further restrict (not close) the borders by trying to change established policing procedure were struck down as being unlawful.

Supreme Court certifies ruling ending Trump border policy

Analysis of Supreme Court’s Recent Border Ruling

Could you show us where you get the news about the USA that is hurting you? We would like to see it too. That news may be the problem here.

In 1980, I had some savings in a Credit Union that was significantly underwritten by the Nugan-Hand Bank, which was a CIA front for laundering money. I lost most of those savings with the collapse of Nugan-Hand Bank.

Nugan Hand Bank - Wikipedia.

Throughout my working life, I worked for several thriving companies which were acquired by US investors who, in short term, shuttered or restructured those companies and made all staff redundant.

We have just been through a pandemic which has killed between 19.1 and 36 million worldwide, and was dealt with effectively in my country, but which was out of control in the USA while being actively denied by Trump for most of the pandemic. COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia The USA, through its policies of not restricting outward travel, was a major infection source for the rest of the world. Personally, a missionary friend of mine died of COVID-19 in the Philippines and two co-workers died of COVID-19 in the USA.

Oh, and look at the petrol prices...

[DBCowboy]

  When Trump says Biden opened the border it is a lie.

 

No it is a fact.

You can deny it, but you can't dispute it.

[chr0naut]

No it is a fact.

You can deny it, but you can't dispute it.

That sounds like some sort of propagandist slogan 'unthink'.

Anyone can both deny and dispute a falsehood.

This post is proof.

[BeyondKnowledge]

At no time after the 1800's has the border been open, where people could cross it freely and unhindered, and where there were no patrolling officers whose sole purpose is to police the border. When Trump says Biden opened the border it is a lie.

At the same time, people have been allowed across the border, but they had to either escape detection entirely, or otherwise be compliant with legal entry criteria. When Trump says he closed the border, it is a lie.

So, not open and not closed. Reality is messy like that.

The whole thing is bound up in long standing statutory law which hasn't significantly changed for either administration. Trump's policies to further restrict (not close) the borders by trying to change established policing procedure were struck down as being unlawful.

Supreme Court certifies ruling ending Trump border policy

Analysis of Supreme Court’s Recent Border Ruling


In 1980, I had some savings in a Credit Union that was significantly underwritten by the Nugan-Hand Bank, which was a CIA front for laundering money. I lost most of those savings with the collapse of Nugan-Hand Bank.

Nugan Hand Bank - Wikipedia.

Throughout my working life, I worked for several thriving companies which were acquired by US investors who, in short term, shuttered or restructured those companies and made all staff redundant.

We have just been through a pandemic which has killed between 19.1 and 36 million worldwide, and was dealt with effectively in my country, but which was out of control in the USA while being actively denied by Trump for most of the pandemic. COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia The USA, through its policies of not restricting outward travel, was a major infection source for the rest of the world. Personally, a missionary friend of mine died of COVID-19 in the Philippines and two co-workers died of COVID-19 in the USA.

Oh, and look at the petrol prices...

I am sorry you had those dealings with the CIA. Most of us hate them too.

And the American businesses, were they linked with Trump in any way?

Are you speaking for the people of Australia along with those of New Zealand? I remember many problems with the way the Australian government treated it's people during covid.

[DBCowboy]

That sounds like some sort of propagandist slogan 'unthink'.

Anyone can both deny and dispute a falsehood.

Easy then, prove the US border was closed during the Biden administration.

Or

Admit youy are wrong.

[chr0naut]

I am sorry you had those dealings with the CIA. Most of us hate them too.

Yes, they are very bad people that they have sent. But some of them might have been good. The money they laundered was ill-gotten from drugs, arms and slave-trading of children for sex. These are the worst of the worst that they are sending.

And the American businesses, were they linked with Trump in any way?

One was, directly. But the idea that you own whatever you can take, even contrary to the law and ethics, is at the heart of Trump's MAGA, because America never was great in isolation, and most of its wealth has always come from somewhere else. That is how empires work.

Are you speaking for the people of Australia along with those of New Zealand? I remember many problems with the way the Australian government treated it's people during covid.

Australia treated its people lawfully via approved process of legislation and with the general publics best interests at heart, even of dissenters.

They didn't deny the seriousness of a disease that up to that point had killed about 2% of the infected population, and that was infectious enough to reach every person in a country within a month or so.

Of course in the USA, lives are less valuable than saving a few bucks.

Which is why people in the US will risk death and disability for intangibles like 'the freedom to refuse life-saving medicine', or 'the freedom to not avoid danger', while at the same time arming 'the insane and the criminal'. - a death-cult with its own flag.