Future Economy Without Humans?

[Karl12]

Not to sound too bleak but what happens when humans become utterly obsolete to the world economy?

Hear a lot of folks saying 'they still need us to buy stuff' but apparently that's not the case.

Here's a good breakdown of the upcoming gov-corp technocratic global economy and, if anything, humans will be a 'liability to the system'.

Guess this is what happens when you put corporate psychopaths in charge of 'optimizing the stack'



QUOTE:

• "This is a world of AI Agents, where you have your AI and I have mine and the hedge fund has ten billion of them - and these agents are constantly discovering value, they're trading futures on things that haven't even been built yet, using energy that hasn't even been generated yet to satisfy a demand that only exists in another algorithm's imagination. It's a closed loop digital paradise."



VIDEO:

A 'real talk' philosophical, psychological, and socioeconomic deep dive into the rise of AI and the dystopian reality of the new class war.

This essay unpacks the "quietly insane" world of futurism where techno-feudalism and a detached technocracy threaten to render the human condition obsolete.

We examine how shifting economic landscapes and extreme wealth inequality have led the elite to abandon the "human project" in favor of a world without us.

This is a raw social commentary on the fantasy of AI consumers and why the current elite pessimism is actually a dead end.

'Machines buying things from other machines, using money that doesn't actually exist to solve problems that don't really matter'?

It admittedly sounds insane but anyone any thoughts on humanity becoming 'obsolete' and a global economy with no people in it?

[David64]

I think it's going to be a long time before Humans are out of the loop. If you're job is tech/computer based, you'll see a reduction in the workforce fairly soon. Why pay a Human when AI can do it faster and cheaper. Companies want a employee that works 24/7, doesn't take sick days or maternity leave and they don't have to pay for insurance and workman's comp. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/21/ai-job-c...yoffs.html

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AI was behind over 50,000 layoffs in 2025 — here are the top firms to cite it for job cuts

If you're in the Trades, you have job security for quite a while yet. AI is not going to put a new roof on your house, fix the plumbing leak under the sink or weld a pipeline 100 miles out in the middle of nowhere. For years now I've been telling young people to skip college and learn a marketable skill. Medical school is the only college I recommend because there is a dire need for Nurses and other medical professionals.

Otherwise, learn to weld, become an electrician or plumber. Learn carpentry or become a mechanic. Do something more complicated than pushing buttons.

[Karl12]

Some sound advice there David and I do agree it will be a while yet - looks like it's definitely 'in the works' though and the digital technocratic control grid is being erected as we speak - with AI governance of humans not far behind.

Have been looking at some 'elitist' literature from the last few decades and they are pretty brazen in their desire for totalitarian control, digital subjugation and mass depopulation of humanity so guess we'll see what happens.

Don't want to sound too pessimistic but there's info below about future 'gov-corp technates' and attitudes towards the less fortunate - apparently if they cannot extract 'sufficient sovereign rent' from 'unproductive wards' (disabled, elderly, welfare support etc.) then things don't look good.

[Tecate]

So interestingly enough I ran into AI being used to differentially diagnose X-rays at my last posting. The nurse I was working with would use a program where she would input signs and symptoms as well as the X-Ray and it would spit out a few possibilities. We could then do further testing to confirm. Not going to replace a Radiologist or the Nurse, but fairly accurate.

We have had computer algorithms doing the same thing with EKGs for over 20 years with fair accuracy as well. Still not going to replace a trained professional who takes the whole situation into consideration, but…

I feel for our children and grandchildren who will have to deal with this issue. 

I as well have been telling the younger generations that the trades offer far better career opportunities.

As usual, my 2 pesos….

Tecate

[Karl12]

I feel for our children and grandchildren who will have to deal with this issue

Was reminded of this pic mate.



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Does loks like these elitist folks are dead serious about 'depopulation' though.

Last I looked they were quoting 'one billion left alive'.

Absolute insecure psychos lol.

[cherokeetroy]

AI is already displacing recent college grads and it hasn't been fully integrated 
Digital currency will be fuel for the AI Empire 
Crypto legislation will be the green light for AI optimization 

And they haven't even unleashed the robots, yet

[Karl12]

Ha good to see you on the thread mate and it's all extremely mindboggling - did see this input from Whitney on the construction of a 'digital feudal order' and it sounds very bad.

What emerges is not an honest attempt at climate protection, but the construction of a digital feudal order: oligarchs use carbon markets, AI systems, and satellite surveillance to enforce behavioral control, while ordinary citizens are priced out of offsets and locked into debt. The video warns that this isn’t just about central bank digital currencies or carbon taxes in isolation—it is about an interoperable financial architecture designed to consolidate wealth, strip privacy, and enforce obedience under the guise of sustainability. The choice, the speaker insists, is whether to participate at all in a system that is totalitarian, incompetent, and deliberately extractive.

Haven't factored in the killer robots but also looks like we'll be dealing with 'Carbon eugenics'.

It's like Black Mirror on crack lol.

[sahgwa]

I like to think in human scale and simply speaking, it's the same old adage of the bully and the group. 
The group has been bullied long enough so that they have become the bully.
Then if you want to leave their group, they get angry and try to kill you or keep you in, just for control, and at its very heart, because misery loves company .
Many people will try to make parallel and real humane economies and societies, but there will be so much pushback from the group to conform. Just because they are stupid and miserable.

[SteamyAmerican]

All I heard is $ made up and not actually real.

I’ll watch the videos later. But for now my question is what happens to the ability for a human being to be useful to themselves, their family, community when all this gets implemented.

And while it might be a little philosophical or even naive to ask this, it sounds like culling 7/8ths of the entire human species is well within reason for those in power and playing along.

Another aspect that bothers me is how the Georgia Guidestones iterated “Leave Room for Nature” twice, only to have the likes of Bill Gates shrug and say yeah, climate change is a thing. Guess the global environment will just have to deal with boiling oceans, no fresh water, and insane assets used to feed the Grid, while AI Agents and their Terminator drone counterparts trade futures on non-existent goods, in markets not meant for you or me.

[Maxmars]

I must be getting a bit cynical about this techno-Utopia that keeps (although not real) threatening humans in many many ways.

I can not imagine where expedient tabulation of human activity is any expression of "progress" in the context they present.

Some of my fears may seem hyperbolic, or an exaggeration...

But this reality cannot exist "by nature," only by the participation of willing surfs.

There are too many shadow-like edifices showing up as potential frameworks to execute a functional shift which would be anything but "suspect."

I would rather not allow every single human footprint tracked, nor 'used' by a programmed device someone else "owns."  

Were the goal to eliminate "fiscal" considerations from human life (ala Star Trek?) I would still remain skeptical.

But this boils down to everything-everywhere at the fingertips of "somebody"... almost because it "needs to" to "learn."  

Can you envision such a world, where your device can tell you everything about anyone, in near-real, or real-time?
OK, maybe not you... just one other person you don't know... or his machine... or their machines... or your machine... 

It's a control-fixated, narcissist-fetish dream... <ahem.>