Fed-Up Empath

[Sirius]

What happens when an empath, tired of constant giving, finally awakens?
Carl Jung’s shadow theory reveals that when the empath integrates their suppressed emotions and reclaims their power, they become more formidable than the narcissist ever anticipated. This transformation isn’t about revenge—it’s about awakening a hidden force within.

[Sirius]

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[UltraBudgie]

hmm i don't think the axes of narcissist and empath are orthogonal

in other words i've noticed most 'empaths' are introverted narcissists

paradoxically, many are outgoing

it may be a coping mechanism

[quintessentone]

What happens when an empath, tired of constant giving, finally awakens?
Carl Jung’s shadow theory reveals that when the empath integrates their suppressed emotions and reclaims their power, they become more formidable than the narcissist ever anticipated. This transformation isn’t about revenge—it’s about awakening a hidden force within.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3wmUzNPKq4]

We must distinguish between the different types of empaths because some just lend a shoulder to cry on, whereas others get too emotionally involved.



Everything is more complex than we'd like to think.

Empathy: Definition, Types, and Tips for Practicing

"Empathy vs. Sympathy vs. CompassionWhile sympathy and compassion are related to empathy, there are important differences. Compassion and sympathy are often thought to be more of a passive connection, while empathy generally involves a much more active attempt to understand another person."

"A few reasons why people sometimes lack empathy include cognitive biases, dehumanization, and victim-blaming."

"Othering is a way of excluding people from the in-group, which can then contribute to dehumanization. For example, when they watch reports of a disaster or conflict in a foreign land, people might be less likely to feel empathy if they think those suffering are fundamentally different from themselves."

[Sirius]

 whereas others get too emotionally involved.

There is a trick that helps with this. You just take stock of your energy, meditate briefly on what is all "your stuff" and then go into whatever environment you have to. Taking a salt bath is good I heard, not sure on the details, doesn't sound healthy initially. Perhaps working up a sweat and then rinsing it off will also take care of salting

[Maxmars]

I imagine that amongst the many afflictions and gifts of humans life...
is a dance among society, where we sway and shift, lurch forward and lean back...
with each step with approach narcissism, love, apathy, passion, joy, and sorrow...

(Sometimes) it congealing into an often toxic "Love me!" fixation. (Which can manifest
as an obsession of empathic displays.)

Note, there must be at least a million ways to be socially errant...
and we keep 'marketing' new one's via myriad talking heads, dropping names,
referring to 'studies,'...  Not really sure that it helps much... but it is entertaining.

Folks in media love "labels."
They are a building block of "memes" and nascent "mind-viri."
(a measure of their success, I suppose.)

We often are shown them suddenly, but then with increasing persistence and with more apparent rapidity...

"This is how to tell some one's an [insert label.]"

For the negative... they never once addressing the reality that most people first "choose" to see
the weakness they are most triggered by... (in themselves?)

For the positive... they never once address that each virtue is distinct and unique within each individual, 

These labels, and the associate baggage each definition embraces,
are inadequate to answer a question which must come from within.

When is being empathetic elevated to the "collection plate" of empathetic traits... a label?

Being empathetic doesn't "make us empaths."

Humans, constant modellers, need to place ideas in containers...
want them to be consistent... as if humans were somehow consistent.

I've known people many around me strongly opined was a narcissist...
but he did measure that trait in public...

I wondered then about labels...
and who makes them serve what purpose.

but the label is being used...

Much like with "stoicism," "AI," anything "Trump," and other such treatments for monetized glory.

[Sirius]

in other words i've noticed most 'empaths' are introverted narcissists

indeed something they only find out in the shadows

[argentus]

There is a trick that helps with this. You just take stock of your energy, meditate briefly on what is all "your stuff" and then go into whatever environment you have to. Taking a salt bath is good I heard, not sure on the details, doesn't sound healthy initially. Perhaps working up a sweat and then rinsing it off will also take care of salting

I would suggest a "personal autonomy firewall".   I'm not sure how else to say it.   It is likely that you need to parse the things that make it inside to you.   Otherwise, a person might tend toward always being reactive and affected by the perceptions thrust upon them.   

I have often wondered if that is why some people choose to be hermits.  

I try to focus on personal interactions and not allowing them to cause a reaction within me.   It took some practice.   Still very far from perfect, however I now have a better handle on allowing those things inside that I choose.   If someone is able to cause a reaction, they are in control.   I don't want that.   I don't want to control them either, but I want to push my own buttons.   There is only one person on this Earth that can truly hurt me, and she chooses not to.

[ANNEE]

We must distinguish between the different types of empaths because some just lend a shoulder to cry on, whereas others get too emotionally involved.

For sure. I’m highly energy sensitive — often wish I could escape on the “Tinman” SNG. I tend to be the quiet observer. 

Have an acquaintance/friend who claims to be an empath — does card readings, etc. She’s very sweet — but never shuts up. 

I do question how someone can be empathetic and narcissistic.

[AlroyFarms]

hmm i don't think the axes of narcissist and empath are orthogonal

in other words i've noticed most 'empaths' are introverted narcissists

paradoxically, many are outgoing

it may be a coping mechanism

The two don't even meet halfway. They are diametrically opposed by definition.

The narcissist seeks to vampire energy from others,

The empath seeks to siphon their energy to others.

Beware the narcissist who tells you how loving and caring and tolerant and patient they are. They're just putting themselves in the spotlight any way they can. The truth is irrelevant to the narcissist, it's all just a means to an end and everyone is collateral.

Not sure how anyone even conflates the two. It's very clear where one set of behavior begins and ends.