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(09-28-2025, 04:36 PM)EXETER Wrote: This is all in the public record.
The first demonstrators started breaking through the outer perimeter of Capitol Police a few minutes before 1:00 on that day. That was about 15 minutes BEFORE Trump finished his speech at the White House Ellipse. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were among the very first individuals to break through the police lines, because many of them did not bother to attend the speeches at the ellipse. When they arrived in DC that morning they more or less went straight to the Capitol. This is the main reason that members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were the only ones charged with, and convicted of, Seditious Conspiracy. They were clearly not there to simply exercise their first amendment rights.
By 1:35, D. C. Mayor Bowser first called for DC National Guard and for backup from other law enforcement agencies in the area. I think that is the earliest point in time where anyone could have asked for FBI agents as one of those law enforcement agencies.
By 1:45, demonstrators were coming up the Capitol steps and the event was officially declared a riot (which has legal implications for how the demonstrators can be treated).
By 2:15, the joint session of Congress had ended, and the Secret Service was evacuating VP Pence.
By 2:25, demonstrators were roaming around inside the Capitol, breaking into offices and looking for Nancy Pelosi, and Trump was tweeting to his followers that "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution."
The first FBI agents arrived at the Capitol at 2:30. So by the time they got there, the demonstrators had already gotten into the Capitol and successfully disrupted the proceedings
Cash Patel agrees with you
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Quote:Current FBI Director Kash Patel said the agents were sent to the US Capitol for 'crowd control' after it had been declared a riot
5 pages of outrage over a lie.
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(09-29-2025, 05:24 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Cash Patel agrees with you
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5 pages of outrage over a lie. While this counters the idea that a bunch were there beforehand, why were they plainclothes agents. Wouldn't uniformed, marked, badged, officers be much better at de-escalating a crowd. Also, what about the dozens of acknowledged embedded informants? What role did they play? Also, why did Wray deny any plainclothes FBI? It should have been seen as a good thing to be helping out. Kash's comments just sound like running cover while pretending to expose something.
The whole thing smelled from day one, and people were absolutely correct that FBI were hidden among the crowd but were gaslit for years that it was simply not true. Meme's were made of feds for weeks...and guess what, they were feds.
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(09-29-2025, 06:44 PM)Halfswede Wrote: While this counters the idea that a bunch were there beforehand, why were they plainclothes agents. Wouldn't uniformed, marked, badged, officers be much better at de-escalating a crowd. Also, what about the dozens of acknowledged embedded informants? What role did they play? Also, why did Wray deny any plainclothes FBI? It should have been seen as a good thing to be helping out. Kash's comments just sound like running cover while pretending to expose something.
The whole thing smelled from day one, and people were absolutely correct that FBI were hidden among the crowd but were gaslit for years that it was simply not true. Meme's were made of feds for weeks...and guess what, they were feds.
I think the only uniform the FBI wears is their little BS windbreaker with FBI in yellow letters on the back.
Everyone knows they were in the crowd.
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(09-29-2025, 06:44 PM)Halfswede Wrote: The whole thing smelled from day one, and people were absolutely correct that FBI were hidden among the crowd but were gaslit for years that it was simply not true. Meme's were made of feds for weeks...and guess what, they were feds.
I'm not at all surprised they had some presence on site. It was advertised for a month that it would be wild. Not to mention all social media, ATS included, was full of people ready to water the tree of liberty.
Not to mention it is a sure bet that the FBI has informants, or agents infiltrating any group such as the proud boys, and the oath keepers. Probably antifa, and blm too.
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The principle reason that this reeks of instigation to me is that no reactionary force ever would show up underprepared if given the proper intelligence. Compound that with this being the Capitol building in a post 9/11 world?
No, if D.C. based FBI agents showed up just to quell the riot as the fact checkers claim, they would have shown up in full kit and be completely accounted for from the word, "Go."
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09-29-2025, 07:44 PM
This post was last modified: 09-29-2025, 07:48 PM by Bush Master. 
The footage I've seen was a high school-level production of kids in police uniforms getting sprayed with Gatoraid, then taking breaks inbetween fake tug of war with the pedestrian barricades.
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(09-29-2025, 07:43 PM)MalevolentTwitch Wrote: No, if D.C. based FBI agents showed up just to quell the riot as the fact checkers claim, they would have shown up in full kit and be completely accounted for from the word, "Go."
Its not just the fact checkers making this claim.
As I posted above, this is straight from Cash Patel. Do you feel Cash has some reason to contradict Trumps statements?
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The Pipe Bombs are getting another look and as usual the story is very convoluted full of innuendo and questions.
Quote:John Solomon welcomes House Judiciary J6 Chairman Barry Loudermilk for a detailed breakdown of newly released FBI materials: a lab report confirming one-hour egg timers on the DNC/RNC devices, a witness saying the RNC bomb appeared only an hour before discovery (with ~20 minutes left on the dial), and why the “placed on Jan. 5” narrative no longer adds up. Loudermilk also flags missing Jan. 6 security footage from party facilities, untouched camera angles, and how FirstNet/AT&T geofence pulls were “corrupted” despite preservation letters—leaving a key data gap around the bomb sites. He outlines next steps, alternate hypotheses (inert/training devices vs. diversion), and vows bipartisan transparency. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro: Why Loudermilk’s new Judiciary J6 panel matters 00:41 – New FBI lab report: one-hour egg timers, no electronic timer; timeline problems 01:36 – Witness account: RNC device wasn’t there an hour earlier; ~20 minutes left when found 02:40 – Could these have been inert/training or diversion devices? What the lab does/doesn’t say 03:55 – Camera coverage: Capitol cams vs. DCCC/GOP club systems; what’s missing and why 05:58 – Focus shifts to Jan. 6 morning footage (not just Jan. 5); who failed to preserve it 06:52 – Geofence gap: preservation letters, AT&T referral to FirstNet, server overload & “corrupted” data 08:46 – Conflict concerns: finder’s employer vs. the entity that corrupted the pull 09:40 – Next steps: re-scrub cameras, broaden requests, rebuild timeline; call for bipartisan cooperation 10:56 – Close/tease: shutdown coverage up next
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(09-30-2025, 03:28 AM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Its not just the fact checkers making this claim.
As I posted above, this is straight from Cash Patel. Do you feel Cash has some reason to contradict Trumps statements?
Honestly? And this is just my opinion, but Kash Petal has no idea what he is doing and Trump has all the consistency and accountability of the wind. Contradictory statements are the norm for D.C…. It’s the status quo, and anyone that believes otherwise is either blind or isn’t paying attention.
Think about it from a purely logical vantage point. If you suddenly found yourself in charge of all of the corruption, backbiting, etc… that is the cesspool of D.C… how would you handle it? How would you clean it up?
If Kash admitted that there were agent provocateurs in the crowd, every single thing the FBI has ever done prior comes into question. Every single arrest made from the day the FBI was founded until today must now be revisited and reexamined. And that’s not hyperbole… Lawyers would have a field day and ultimately everyone would lose.
When HRC made her infamous, “….We’ll all hang.” comment, do you think she was just talking about her allies and sycophants? Or did she actually mean, Everyone?
"In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces".
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(09-30-2025, 08:27 AM)MalevolentTwitch Wrote: Honestly? And this is just my opinion, but Kash Petal has no idea what he is doing and Trump has all the consistency and accountability of the wind. Contradictory statements are the norm for D.C…. It’s the status quo, and anyone that believes otherwise is either blind or isn’t paying attention.
Think about it from a purely logical vantage point. If you suddenly found yourself in charge of all of the corruption, backbiting, etc… that is the cesspool of D.C… how would you handle it? How would you clean it up?
If Kash admitted that there were agent provocateurs in the crowd, every single thing the FBI has ever done prior comes into question. Every single arrest made from the day the FBI was founded until today must now be revisited and reexamined. And that’s not hyperbole… Lawyers would have a field day and ultimately everyone would lose.
When HRC made her infamous, “….We’ll all hang.” comment, do you think she was just talking about her allies and sycophants? Or did she actually mean, Everyone?
FB! is corrupt from it's inception.
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