Ex-Mormon Shortcake speaks on her experience in the LDS Church.

[SleipnirTheHorse]

Shortcake a YouTube artist talks about being a Mormon as a young child and talks also about secret hand shakes and rituals. 

Warning the third video is shocking and contains violent and sexual disturbing behavior by Mormon Men, be aware.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=43OUvGpzLs...YKAYcqIYzv

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p8XQNiYI6A...hvcnRjYWtl

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkHJ8ud0b...YKAYcqIYzv

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Shortcake a YouTube artist talks about being a Mormon as a young child and talks also about secret hand shakes and rituals. 

Warning the third video is shocking and contains violent and sexual disturbing behavior by Mormon Men, be aware.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=43OUvGpzLs...YKAYcqIYzv

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p8XQNiYI6A...hvcnRjYWtl

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkHJ8ud0b...YKAYcqIYzv

I was Mormon for 5 years.  Not a major amount of time -- but enough to experience it.

It was a wonderful experience.  Their #1 priority is charity.  They often work closely with other organizations such as Catholic Charities.  But, you won't hear about them in the media because they don't seek that -- it's about the work.

They organize what time you go to service by neighborhoods.  So that neighbors bond and help each other.

I am not religious -- but how they organize and take care of each other -- other's could learn from them.

I'm talking about the OFFICIAL "Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" -- not the unofficial FLDS Jeff Warren cult.

There is so much misinformation about Mormons on the internet -- you really can't believe any of it.  

And they are Christians.  They have bible study.  Rarely did we read or refer to the Book of Mormon -- which is more of a history book.

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I will just add my only experience with Mormons is some in my high school who were kind of stuck up rich kids, but that's kids.
And last 3 or 4 years we had 2 girls proselytising at our house. They were nice, they left me a free copy of the Book of Mormon with bits highlighted. I haven't read it yet.
They DIDNT leave me a Bible. hmmm

[SleipnirTheHorse]

I was Mormon for 5 years.  Not a major amount of time -- but enough to experience it.

It was a wonderful experience.  Their #1 priority is charity.  They often work closely with other organizations such as Catholic Charities.  But, you won't hear about them in the media because they don't seek that -- it's about the work.

They organize what time you go to service by neighborhoods.  So that neighbors bond and help each other.

I am not religious -- but how they organize and take care of each other -- other's could learn from them.

I'm talking about the OFFICIAL "Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" -- not the unofficial FLDS Jeff Warren cult.

There is so much misinformation about Mormons on the internet -- you really can't believe any of it.  

And they are Christians.  They have bible study.  Rarely did we read or refer to the Book of Mormon -- which is more of a history book.

Just to clear I'm not saying all Mormons are bad, I'm saying in the upper echelons it's a pretty wierd religion. I mean Mormonism is very similar to Scientology in some ways and also since you mention the catholic church,  they have similar problems with priests and kids. In my opinion reform is needed. 

Read The White Horse Prophecy by the way.

[SleipnirTheHorse]

I will just add my only experience with Mormons is some in my high school who were kind of stuck up rich kids, but that's kids.
And last 3 or 4 years we had 2 girls proselytising at our house. They were nice, they left me a free copy of the Book of Mormon with bits highlighted. I haven't read it yet.
They DIDNT leave me a Bible. hmmm

I actually had literal Satanic kids in my high school and they were okay, but I wouldn't just say most forms of Satanism are good.

The fact is I've been around members of cults and their not actually too bad of people. I had a Jehovah's Witness as an art teacher. She was mostly okay, just it was weird around holidays, because she believed celebrating them was evil.

It's that cults hid behind their members to give them the ability to do nefarious things. 

The Hollywood idea of a cult is very different from the reality.

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The fact is I've been around members of cults and their not actually too bad of people. I had a Jehovah's Witness as an art teacher. She was mostly okay, just it was weird around holidays, because she believed celebrating them was evil.

It's that cults hid behind their members to give them the ability to do nefarious things. 

I saw Kurt Metzger (former JW) on the Jimmy Dore Show once say something really insightful about religions and cults. He said that every single one of them has the overt "right-hand path" that they show to the public, and is what the define themselves by, that everyone sees. But, hiding behind that is a hidden "left-hand path", selected from those ranks, which uses the outward appearance as a cloak, to do nefarious things as you say. He said JW were strangely different, because they were like a cult in every other way, but they don't have that hidden path. Something to do with their tight member self-monitoring and the way they do their leadership councils. They're the same zealous sidewalk pamphlet-pushers at every level, no matter how far into the inner circle you go.

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Just to clear I'm not saying all Mormons are bad, I'm saying in the upper echelons it's a pretty wierd religion. I mean Mormonism is very similar to Scientology in some ways and also since you mention the catholic church,  they have similar problems with priests and kids. In my opinion reform is needed. 

Read The White Horse Prophecy by the way.

In what way is Mormon’s like Scientology?

What is your personal experience with Mormonism?

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I saw Kurt Metzger (former JW) on the Jimmy Dore Show once say something really insightful about religions and cults. He said that every single one of them has the overt "right-hand path" that they show to the public, and is what the define themselves by, that everyone sees. But, hiding behind that is a hidden "left-hand path", selected from those ranks, which uses the outward appearance as a cloak, to do nefarious things as you say. He said JW were strangely different, because they were like a cult in every other way, but they don't have that hidden path. Something to do with their tight member self-monitoring and the way they do their leadership councils. They're the same zealous sidewalk pamphlet-pushers at every level, no matter how far into the inner circle you go.

Yes.  Mormon (Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) are "basically" patriarchal, fundamental, Christians -- with a few extra/different beliefs.  What makes the other 3000 different Christian sects different?  A few extra/different beliefs.  They all believe their version is the right one.  And I'm sure the higher echelon in all of them have some special rituals they consider sacred.  Catholics for instance?

However, they find it insulting to be considered Christian and Christians practically find it blasphemous. The difference is in the details.

My ex-husband was raised Mormon.  His whole family were Mormon.  He had left - but wanted to try it as a married couple.  So, I did a lot of studying.  There is so much mis-information in all medias in regards to Mormonism -- you'd need to practically be an expert to sort out what is fact and what isn't.

I can see why Mormonism seems cultish, but it really isn't.  It is a way of life you live 24/7.  But there are no restrictions about getting out in the "real world" and they are very big on education for both men and women.  Many early female doctors were educated at BYU.
 
Legitimate legal recognized Mormons -- not Jeff Warrens FLDS.  

FLDS not officially recognized:  The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS) is not officially recognized by the mainstream LDS Church. The FLDS Church, also known as the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, is a breakaway religious group that split from the main LDS Church. Although it shares some roots with Mormonism, it is not part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and is not recognized by it.

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I actually had literal Satanic kids in my high school and they were okay, but I wouldn't just say most forms of Satanism are good.

Hey, at least you recognize there are many forms of Satanism -- and some are good.  Some legitimate Satanists or Luciferians (Light Bringer - Morning Star) belief God chose the wrong hand.  They're not Devil worshipers.

But IMO - the kids today claiming Satanism have no real idea what it means.

BTW -- thanks for starting the thread.  Greatly appreciative those who bring new ideas and thoughts to the forum.

[SleipnirTheHorse]

In what way is Mormon’s like Scientology?

What is your personal experience with Mormonism?

I knew a black Mormon man, he was okay, just whenever I tried to explain to him Mormon history surrounding race he went into denial mode.

I happen to have been explained to by my dad (not a Mormon) that when Jimmy Carter started taking away the tax exempt status of racist churches,  that the Mormon Leadership went inside the temple and prayed for a very long time and came out and said "God changed his mind on Black People,"  This was due to not only Jimmy Carter but Mitt Romney's father doing some internal arm twisting i would later learn.

In my opinion a lot of Christian Churchs in general are just about money and the Mormons don't strike me as that different except for believing God is on another planet and having some early UFO aspects going on.

As a philosopher i have little actual disagreement with Jesus,  just I don't believe he was a god, I believe he was a jewish philosopher who was heavily elevated by his followers after his death.

In otherwards to quote Fredrick Neichze, "The only true Christian died on the cross!"