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Evil is not the Opposite of Good, it's the Opposite of Truth
(10-15-2025, 04:34 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Tell us more about "the cycle of life" and how it pertains to evil?

Look smart ass. The cycle of life doesn't know evil. Why don't you try reading. Or observing it.
                                   
(10-14-2025, 09:25 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Talking of the redefinition of language:

Woke

LOL.
Who created the word woke? Or should I say redefined it?
                                   
(10-15-2025, 12:23 AM)Bootless Wrote: I think gaslighting is evil.

Please explain all the reasoning steps that make you think that gaslighting is evil?

Also, what of degree? Is writing fiction gaslighting? Is fiction therefore evil?

Give us a robust bit of rational analysis, don't just make unsupported, and possibly unsupportable, statements. We are trying to have philosophical dialogue here, not shouting insults.

Quote:Gaslighting is manipulative lying; telling someone that what they know is true is not-true.

I was pointing out that all those dictionary definitions of 'evil' (with the exception of Wikipedia) make no mention of either 'truth' or 'falsehood' as part of those definitions.

You can follow the links and read the definitions for yourself and verify that I was not lying.
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(10-15-2025, 05:49 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Look smart ass. The cycle of life doesn't know evil. Why don't you try reading. Or observing it.

Please stop with the silly name-calling.

You were asked a simple question. 

And if you had bothered to read the entirety of the thread.

You would see clearly top of page 2 where i have suggested nature entertains no illusions where evil is concerned.

Good and evil are human constructs we created so as to make sense of our morality and behavior. 

I simply wanted to know how you imagined evil factored into our life cycle regarding the human condition.
 
Quote:Why don't you try reading. Or observing it.

Possibly best to take your own advice, just a thought.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(10-15-2025, 05:55 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Who created the word woke? Or should I say redefined it?

Follow the link to the Wikipedia article. It explains the etymology.
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(10-15-2025, 05:55 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Who created the word woke? Or should I say redefined it?

Apparently, the use of the word "Woke" has been around in Black communities for decades.

Long before it entered mainstream usage.

As far as i can determine, somebody called Huddie Ledbetter aka "Lead Belly" used it in a 1940s interview. 

Where he said to "stay woke" pertaining to "the Scottsboro Boys" who were nine Black teenagers falsely accused of raping two white women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottsboro_Boys
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(10-15-2025, 06:04 AM)chr0naut Wrote: Please explain all the reasoning steps that make you think that gaslighting is evil?

You didn't ask me ... but ...

Gaslighting is manipulation through lies.
Lies are the opposite of good and truth.
Therefore gaslighting is evil.

Writing fiction isn't evil because it doesn't try to mislead or manipulate.
It presents itself clearly as it is ... a story to entertain.



Proverbs 6:16-19  16 There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

Psalm 101:7 - No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence.

John 8:44 - You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Revelation 21:8 - But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Matthew 15:18-20 - But the things that come out of a person's mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts-murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them."
(10-15-2025, 04:50 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Is that not from "Paradise Lost"?


as foretold https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Magical...5#pid67425
(10-15-2025, 04:18 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: The conclusion of the author of the article is that evil is parasitic. 
 
Perhaps; but that was not the conclusion of St Augustine. If you had actually read him rather than simply saying you had, you would know that.

An interesting position to find myself in as an agnostic – defending one of the fathers of the Roman Catholic Church against a disciple of the aspiring antipope Vigano.
(10-15-2025, 10:57 AM)Astyanax Wrote:  
Perhaps; but that was not the conclusion of St Augustine. If you had actually read him rather than simply saying you had, you would know that.

I do not appreciate being called a liar.    Thumbdown
I have read Confessions.   
That's irrelevant to what I said.
THE ARTICLE comes to the conclusion that evil is parasitic.
I said that I originally disagreed, but then thought about it and think it could be true.



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