Does this help you

[UltraBudgie]

everyone around me thinks I need to take shrooms

Really, this should be a bit of a warning flag that you should take extra precautions. Please be sure you have a clear schedule, no stressing anxieties, and comfortable environment before experimenting, as well as trusted people you can contact if you need help. Dose gently.

[quintessentone]

Really, this should be a bit of a warning flag that you should take extra precautions. Please be sure you have a clear schedule, no stressing anxieties, and comfortable environment before experimenting, as well as trusted people you can contact if you need help. Dose gently.

Yeah, those that know me well for decades, tell me I should take shrooms.

[Maxmars]

Yeah, those that know me well for decades, tell me I should take shrooms.

A cautionary tale:

While the experience was very much magically positive... that evening some 12 hours later... I had the anxiety attack of a lifetime... related?  Perhaps, perhaps not... but still.... it's memorable enough that I have hesitated ever since...

Though I can honestly report, when I ate some... I never felt less oppressed, troubled, and bothered by those things which haunt me always... I actually remembered a long forgotten past  ...
"This is what is was like to not be depressed!" ...
I wanted to weep in joy..." 
I felt beauty...
I felt love...
I rediscovered wonder and a new freedom to think... a new modality which suited me just fine...

The horrors of that evening matched the positivity in magnitude. 
Fear was my attacker, and like all 'panic' attacks in my experience...
there is neither anything to flee from, nor anything to fight... it is a component of the emotional event.
 
(And it is important to note there were definite mitigating reasons which might account for my anxiety storm... not necessarily the mushrooms.  The condition of PTSD brings with it many unpleasant things...)

It was a horrifying few hours... featuring the terrifying idea of being "hospitalized" in that state...
and it never going away.  I could only dread existentially that I had failed my wife...  

Thank God my wife was there to hold my hand (Tomorrow would have been her birthday!   )
... I was like a child desperate for mother's protective embrace. 

I count this as an embarrassing revelation... but it seemed it might be pertinent to share. 


Please have a Sherpa (preferably, a trusted friend and/or someone who loves you)...
if you do decide to experiment.

Many 'bad experiences' can be completely side-stepped or avoided if someone experienced is with you.
They can often help by just being there with you.

[Ray1990]

For me the question "does this help you?" 

Often finds itself paired with:

"How long are you willing to spend?"

Which naturally ties into another question about why the hell am I doing something.

If it's to stroke my ego or an anatomical equivalent then I really am thicker than the flooring within a pigsty, and that shit's thick. Anyway, I find forums like this to contain people usually brighter and smarter than me, if I cast my line of thoughts out there and find I get a nibble then I might just find (hopefully) 1 of 2 things. I'm using the right gear and my thoughts are onto something or I'm way out of my depth. Either one could prove productive. That's helpful.

It's a style of interaction I've found conducive at times. A lot of the time I'm found staring at the horizon though whilst I don't achieve anything. Some say that's helpful too.

"Does this help me?" Is a brilliant question people should ask of themselves though. It's that whole ethos of measure twice cut once personified. Definitely helpful... Unless ya cutting your leg off.

Caligurl! I hope you try to find out what mushrooms they are before you eat any... The scale of potency is kinda crazy, some mushrooms you need 1 others you need 50. Don't screw around with shrooms.

[rickymouse]

I tent to focus on trying to fix things that effect myself and my family directly.  I would rather focus on things that are important, lately our society is way out of line and it is causing our society to be torn apart, especially in political division.  Yes, we need to help one another to form a symbiotic relationship in society, but too many people take advantage of this nowadays, and the government had made these help programs they took over inefficient and really expensive over the years.

[Ray1990]

I tent to focus on trying to fix things that effect myself and my family directly.  I would rather focus on things that are important, lately our society is way out of line and it is causing our society to be torn apart, especially in political division.  Yes, we need to help one another to form a symbiotic relationship in society, but too many people take advantage of this nowadays, and the government had made these help programs they took over inefficient and really expensive over the years.

I've learned a lot from you over the years rickymouse, your knowledge of food chemistry has proved invaluable a few times for me. I also love your turd on a stick pic! I'm glad it's still around refusing to be budged.

I'd like to say selfishness isn't a bad thing, the vast majority of the things I've offered others that have proved to be helpful were born within the desire to fix me and my own. Something I've genuinely felt from you when you "rattle on" and I also want to say please keep rattling, by choice and not because some know it all Dr filled your pockets with prescription drugs that do more damage than they're worth.

The irony of government backed help programs is it often costs 100s if not 1000s of a chosen currency just to do something we should be doing for each other, which will work out cheaper and it will work out to be more holistic than any quick fix one can throw money at.

The thread title is "how does this help you" but I do feel the idealistic approach to that is practicing what's preached as in "it helped me, maybe it can help you too" which was what I was getting at with my own post. Such attitudes don't need flags, stars nor likes. I strongly suspect these days such acts do deserve recognition though. So here's (another) one from me to you.

Because sometimes it isn't always about me and mine or you and yours.

[quintessentone]

A cautionary tale:

While the experience was very much magically positive... that evening some 12 hours later... I had the anxiety attack of a lifetime... related?  Perhaps, perhaps not... but still.... it's memorable enough that I have hesitated ever since...

Though I can honestly report, when I ate some... I never felt less oppressed, troubled, and bothered by those things which haunt me always... I actually remembered a long forgotten past  ...
"This is what is was like to not be depressed!" ...
I wanted to weep in joy..." 
I felt beauty...
I felt love...
I rediscovered wonder and a new freedom to think... a new modality which suited me just fine...

The horrors of that evening matched the positivity in magnitude. 
Fear was my attacker, and like all 'panic' attacks in my experience...
there is neither anything to flee from, nor anything to fight... it is a component of the emotional event.
 
(And it is important to note there were definite mitigating reasons which might account for my anxiety storm... not necessarily the mushrooms.  The condition of PTSD brings with it many unpleasant things...)

It was a horrifying few hours... featuring the terrifying idea of being "hospitalized" in that state...
and it never going away.  I could only dread existentially that I had failed my wife...  

Thank God my wife was there to hold my hand (Tomorrow would have been her birthday!   )
... I was like a child desperate for mother's protective embrace. 

I count this as an embarrassing revelation... but it seemed it might be pertinent to share. 


Please have a Sherpa (preferably, a trusted friend and/or someone who loves you)...
if you do decide to experiment.

Many 'bad experiences' can be completely side-stepped or avoided if someone experienced is with you.
They can often help by just being there with you.

Yes, my daughter says she will be with me and that she thinks we should have a focal point, like watching an Avatar movie together. But for me that defeats the whole reason to take it in the first place, that being, to embrace the inner journey and see it through to the end. I may be an old dog but I can still learn a few new tricks and face my fears. That's really what it is about, facing one's fears and one's joys, as you say.

[UltraBudgie]

Yes, my daughter says she will be with me and that she thinks we should have a focal point, like watching an Avatar movie together. But for me that defeats the whole reason to take it in the first place, that being, to embrace the inner journey and see it through to the end. I may be an old dog but I can still learn a few new tricks and face my fears. That's really what it is about, facing one's fears and one's joys, as you say.

alternately just take a bunch of cold medicine, eat the whole baggie, hop on your bike, and see where life takes you

[quintessentone]

alternately just take a bunch of cold medicine, eat the whole baggie, hop on your bike, and see where life takes you

Been there, done that. lol My body does not take pothole collisions like it used to.

I'm happy where life has taken me so far, but I still want to see the Northern Lights. Nothing grandiose in measure, just to enjoy our lovely planet Earth here and there, mostly gardening at this point in time.

[MonkMode]

I have tinnitus and exploding head syndrome.
Both are a pain in the neck.
I don't see anything spiritual about them.
They are glitches ... faults ... errors ... IMHO

I found my distraction rabbit hole for this thread.

Tinnitus shows thoughts are not private.

I know I’m thinking about something erroneously if the hum happens in my left ear.