DID, ASPD, Schizophrenia

[85303]

Reality is always sicker than movies, entertainment media...

I Have recently become aware of an individual that suggests they may be affected by one or maybe all of these conditions and possibly more.

I'm not in the medical or psychological field, but I'm wondering if anyone knows if this kind of thing is possible, and how exactly these things are tested medically. 

I'm not too interested in the therapy side of this discussion. Literal physical medical science and personal experience is what I'm eager to hear about. 

Please no ASPD horror stories.

[Maxmars]

Not a professional here... 

Such conditions described by psychiatrists/psychologists in relation to and around social interaction.

According to my research, DID, ASPD, are recent additions to the ranks of schizophrenia.   
Some scoffed at the inclusions, some still are cautious about seriously embracing the disorder as defined. 
(Never mind those who reject the data completely.)

Science isn't settled on these ideas... even if the authors of the diagnosis guides published otherwise.

Are separate personalities real "people?"  They can't say.
Some might ask, "Is a person suffering from an actual "compulsion" to be anti-social...
or does it just feel too good to some being a jerk/bully/thug/malcontent?"

Mental disorders are complicated enough without allowing the flourishes and dramatics of a patient 
to become the errant focus of diagnostic outcomes...
and that can happen because it does make a good story.

However, as a "not professional" my opinions are nigh invalid and unworthy to be shared...

ALWAYS seek professional help.

Edit to add:

Just for kicks, from an AI source:

Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) is a type of personality disorder characterized by a long-term pattern of irresponsible and often criminal behavior, including deceitfulness, impulsivity, and a disregard for the rights of others.
 People with ASPD may also have a history of conduct disorder during childhood, such as truancy, delinquency, and other disruptive and aggressive behaviors.

Schizophrenia is a mental health condition that affects how someone thinks, perceives, feels, and relates to others. While schizophrenia and ASPD are distinct conditions, they can co-occur, and research indicates that antisocial personality disorder is more prevalent among persons with schizophrenia than in the general population.
 This comorbidity can be associated with substance abuse, attention/concentration problems, and poor academic performance in childhood, and in adulthood, with alcohol abuse or dependence and deficient affective experience.

DID, or Dissociative Identity Disorder, is not directly related to ASPD or Schizophrenia. DID is a condition in which a person has two or more distinct identities or personality states that recurrently take control of behavior, accompanied by memory lapses that are too extensive to be explained by ordinary forgetfulness.
 However, the context provided does not contain information about DID, so no further details can be provided based on the given context. 

[Sirius]

Yes seek professional help, holistically. There are many support structures in a community.

[85303]

Yes seek professional help, holistically. There are many support structures in a community.

​​​​​Telling someone who's mentally unstable to seek help without additional input is as advisable as telling Karen to calm down or supporting Ukraine in Moscow.  Please be cautious throwing this at actually ill people...  Smh.......

[Sirius]

​​​​​Telling someone who's mentally unstable to seek help without additional input is as advisable as telling Karen to calm down or supporting Ukraine in Moscow.  Please be cautious throwing this at actually ill people...  Smh.......

Holistically, a person has a mind, body and a soul. Healing needs to happen where it is needed.

[Sirius]

Trigger warning, read this thread https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Monroe-...rchive-org

Something coming out if it may help, I didn't post everything there, you will have to look at other threads and posts I made.

Why? Whatever you or your friend is going through I have probably posted about it and you can look at peoples reactions or the lack of it.

You have to chose what you want to do.

[85303]

Trigger warning, read this thread https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Monroe-...rchive-org

Something coming out if it may help, I didn't post everything there, you will have to look at other threads and posts I made.

Why? Whatever you or your friend is going through I have probably posted about it and you can look at peoples reactions or the lack of it.

You have to chose what you want to do.

I tried to word it like I was talking about a friend and my words came out pretty clear I was talking about myself.  Stigma of DID apparently.

Yeah surprisingly this is closer to what I was hoping for.  I still hope medical science can someday hope to see, understand and help these sorts of problems people have.  Hope, but doubt.  It's like everything else of meaning and consequence in the universe, the more you understand, the closer you look the more ambiguous and dispersed everything becomes 

My only concern is that rabbit hole idea being mentioned.  I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.  Sorcerer's apprentice but the mage is my compartmentalized inner demon and his tools are not so benign.

The things mentioned as experiences during binurial sessions are something I already experience without effort.  It's confusing to try to determine if something is a hallucinations or something else. If I fixate I lose focus on reality. The lines between here, there and inside my head blur and I have to snap myself out of it as fast as possible 

My meditation is short fast and usually used to make my body sleep because it lost that ability early.

Compartmentalize everything (put in box)
Clear field (same thing as before but for the light things my eyes make when I close them)
Focus all attention to third eye, usually I lose focus on my body at this point.

New lights like the ones in step 2 but they have shapes and move together seemingly with purpose

Usually at this point I'll get full visual hallucinations of people and places.  Random. I don't know most of them and haven't been to most of the places I've seen.  The images are gone instantly but I can see every detail

If I'm lucky at this point I wake up rested.

I sometimes have dreams that feel like months, even years once.

So there is some concern but I'm sure it's nothing I can't survive.


As for professional help, there's none. 
Machines, doctors, AI, everything can't interpret or track any of this because it's unique to each person during their unique development and simply isn't possible with the methods available today. Therapy is like rehab, a complete waste for someone who actively wants to get better.  Rehab/therapy never saved a single person who didn't want it.  I'm not above asking for help, I'm just not going to hand over my family's livelihood to do so.

[Nerb]

​​​​​Telling someone who's mentally unstable to seek help without additional input is as advisable as telling Karen to calm down or supporting Ukraine in Moscow.  Please be cautious throwing this at actually ill people...  Smh.......

I absolutely agree. I had to distance myself from someone and I did it politely but honestly without being direct about their problem. Someone else also dealt with the same person but told her she needed medication.

I was the one who didn't get their tyres slashed.



Interesting stuff and thanks to the O.P. for being honest and brave for sharing.

Be well.

[85303]

I absolutely agree. I had to distance myself from someone and I did it politely but honestly without being direct about their problem. Someone else also dealt with the same person but told her she needed medication.

I was the one who didn't get their tyres slashed.



Interesting stuff and thanks to the O.P. for being honest and brave for sharing.

Be well.

Hey don't blame me I tried the whole"my friend" thing and my"friend" here made it obvious.  Apparently hiding this isn't working out anymore. 
Sirius seriously has the best of intent. He's like a positive version of me, kinda, sometimes... It's irritating. Illuminating.  Fun, hopefully terrifying soon.

[Sirius]

Fuck dudes? Really? Maxmars made a wall of text explain things after witch I replied "Yes seek professional help, holistically. There are many support structures in a community."

Rehab is rehabilitation, they teach you to integrate back into society.