DC police leaders face termination amid crime data probe

[David64]

Right-wing extremism is also strongly associated with attitudes and actions that are either illegal and/or deeply rejected in society because they are so contrary to the common good.

So, ANTIFA and BLM are Right Wing ?

[chr0naut]

So, ANTIFA and BLM are Right Wing ?

Although dogs are quadrupeds, you cannot assume that every four legged animal is a dog.

[govshill2]

Does that not prove how much these statistics are closely watched by numerous 3rd parties?

And, of course, there will always be those who have different data that does not agree with the majority. It doesn't mean that those in disagreement are right, but in a fair society they do have their voice.

And, those with different stats could simply be propaganda ("lies, dammned lies & statistics", LOL).

This is usually easily identified by things such as ideological affiliation of the publishers, date of publishing and collection of their 'contrary data', and things within the dataset such as the use of approximate 'round numbers' and those that don't follow Benford's Law

Your post is un-understandible for most people (by design?) I assume.

But there's good reasons why the Cities crime stats are being audited.

Again, The FBI never verified anything until recently when many became suspect.

It's about Federal Funding and City corruption and skimming and money funneling 

some info on this search.........
search "federal money for cities crime" (bing search)

[David64]

Although dogs are quadrupeds, you cannot assume that every four legged animal is a dog.

Platypus lay eggs but that doesn't mean they're a chicken.

I mean, if we're going for obtuse shit instead of straight answers.......

ANTIFA and BLM both meet your definition of "Right Wing" but they're obviously not, so apparently you are wrong.

[chr0naut]

Your post is un-understandible for most people (by design?) I assume.

But there's good reasons why the Cities crime stats are being audited.

Again, The FBI never verified anything until recently when many became suspect.

It's about Federal Funding and City corruption and skimming and money funneling 

some info on this search.........
search "federal money for cities crime" (bing search)

The Trump Federal government is corrupt. Clearly, more so than the State governments - it does not robustly audit and verify its own figures like it once used to.

Let me explain;

Trump's 'Department of Government Efficiency' (DOGE) cut many government offices that audited and verified statistical data. The literally cut hundreds of departments and offices. I tried to get a list of exactly what was cut, but here's the kicker - no-one knows - it appears that the departments that would normally audit and report on the bureaucracy itself are gone! LOL. The government cannot audit the States without the staff to do so.

Do you think that top officers of the administration go up to Trump and say, "we are running out of, or have blown, our budget", or "unemployment is up to 4.3%" or "petrol is at nearly $5 a gallon" or anything but the most vapid appealing to Trump's ego? They are all scared shitless that they will be sacked and publicly ridiculed for incompetence (like so many Trump insiders already have been).

So, I strongly doubt that Trump, or even his toadies, have the slightest clue about what is actually happening in the outside world. They cannot abide bad news. Knowledge is their enemy. Clearly, from his answers to reporters, Trump doesn't seem to know there is an affordability crisis right now.

But getting back to the people who used to collate, verify and report the statistical data to the government and the public, that was their full-time job. They did it. It was checked and verified (and, like I said, there were multiple parties that also checked on each other) - but they don't work there anymore!

At present, the administration just makes up most of its 'vital' statistics. They are not rigorously verified and validated.

Have you not noted that Trump never gives any exact numbers on anything, they are always vague round numbers, and everyone who should have reason to actually know keeps saying they are totally wrong? That is how you can be fairly damn sure he is making it all up.

Oh, and Benford's Law, that I linked to previously, is a mathematical trick that shows when someone is making shit up. Every accountant, data scientist and statistician knows about it. If Trump had really passed his exams at Wharton, he'd know about it too.

[govshill2]

The Trump Federal government is corrupt. Clearly, more so than the State governments - it does not robustly audit and verify its own figures like it once used to.

Let me explain;

Trump's 'Department of Government Efficiency' (DOGE) cut many government offices that audited and verified statistical data. The literally cut hundreds of departments and offices. I tried to get a list of exactly what was cut, but here's the kicker - no-one knows - it appears that the departments that would normally audit and report on the bureaucracy itself are gone! LOL. The government cannot audit the States without the staff to do so.

Do you think that top officers of the administration go up to Trump and say, "we are running out of, or have blown, our budget", or "unemployment is up to 4.3%" or "petrol is at nearly $5 a gallon" or anything but the most vapid appealing to Trump's ego? They are all scared shitless that they will be sacked and publicly ridiculed for incompetence (like so many Trump insiders already have been).

So, I strongly doubt that Trump, or even his toadies, have the slightest clue about what is actually happening in the outside world. They cannot abide bad news. Knowledge is their enemy. Clearly, from his answers to reporters, Trump doesn't seem to know there is an affordability crisis right now.

But getting back to the people who used to collate, verify and report the statistical data to the government and the public, that was their full-time job. They did it. It was checked and verified (and, like I said, there were multiple parties that also checked on each other) - but they don't work there anymore!

At present, the administration just makes up most of its 'vital' statistics. They are not rigorously verified and validated.

Have you not noted that Trump never gives any exact numbers on anything, they are always vague round numbers, and everyone who should have reason to actually know keeps saying they are totally wrong? That is how you can be fairly damn sure he is making it all up.

Oh, and Benford's Law, that I linked to previously, is a mathematical trick that shows when someone is making shit up. Every accountant, data scientist and statistician knows about it. If Trump had really passed his exams at Wharton, he'd know about it too.

Trump isn't doing the FBI crime stat audits. Being biased against Trump isn't the problem that started in cities crime reporting and selective enforcement polices either.  Crime and stat reporting selectivity started long before Trump.  Not quite absorbing your points yet, seems clouded with prejudice. OK however. 

[chr0naut]

Platypus lay eggs but that doesn't mean they're a chicken.

I mean, if we're going for obtuse shit instead of straight answers.......

ANTIFA and BLM both meet your definition of "Right Wing" but they're obviously not, so apparently you are wrong.

Right at the top of my much earlier post I said that "Right-wing extremism is a specific ideology characterized by ‘anti-democratic opposition towards equality'". Both ANTIFA and the BLM strongly support democracy and equality ideals.

I tend to find that many right-wing apologists take partial phrases out of context all the time, as a way of subverting the meaning of an argument (much like the the gun lobby ignores much of the text of the 2nd amendment as if the mention of militias and States was irrelevant padding) - Perhaps there isn't room enough in there to fit a whole sentence or complex nuanced concept?

[DBCowboy]

Right at the top of my post I said that "Right-wing extremism is a specific ideology characterized by ‘anti-democratic opposition towards equality'". Both ANTIFA and the BLM strongly support democracy and equality ideals.

I tend to find that many right-wing apologists take partial phrases out of context all the time, as a way of subverting the meaning of an argument (much like the the gun lobby ignores much of the text of the 2nd amendment as if the mention of militias and States was irrelevant padding) - Perhaps there isn't room enough in there to fit a whole sentence or complex nuanced concept?

All bullshit.

they may support equity, but they don't support equality.

[chr0naut]

Trump isn't doing the FBI crime stat audits. Being biased against Trump isn't the problem that started in cities crime reporting and selective enforcement polices either.  Crime and stat reporting selectivity started long before Trump.  Not quite absorbing your points yet, seems clouded with prejudice. OK however. 

But if the stats have been false, decades before Trump, and have had cross-organizational consistency for decades, how could anyone know they are corrupt?

In fact, if the mechanism that verifies and checks for inconsistency has recently and provably been removed, where could these allegations have even come from?

It is clear that Trump is trying to impose martial law so that he cannot be voted out.

There is a history of memo's, directives, an insurrection, and people speaking out (like Bannon and Project25 etc), that Trump is going to try, once again, to stay in office. This time, it will be contrary to the 22nd Amendment.

The only way to do that is to manufacture an emergency, like a massive crime wave, or a war, or invasion (all of which he has used in speeches to describe fairly mundane stuff), to implement martial law and suspend elections. Otherwise, he simply cannot have a third (or more) term.

And he will, most probably, be arrested if and when he leaves office. The rulings are already in place, waiting until his shield of immunity falls. So, there's that.

[DBCowboy]

But if the stats have been false, decades before Trump, and have cross-organizational consistency for decades, how could you know they are corrupt? In fact, if the mechanism that verifies and checks for inconsistency has recently and provably been removed, where could these allegations have come from?

Thump is trying to impose martial law so that he cannot be voted out. There is a history of memo's, and directives, an insurrection, and people speaking out (like Bannon and Project25), that Trump is going to try once again to stay in office. This time, contrary to the 22 Amendment.

He needs to manufacture an emergency, like a massive crime wave, or a war, or invasion (all of which he has used in speeches to describe fairly mundane stuff), to implement martial law and suspend elections. Otherwise, he simply cannot have a third (or more) term.

Source your allegations or admit you are a liar.