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(07-18-2025, 08:56 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: How is pointing out with everyday knowledge how microwaves actually work on dry and green plants with cellulose babbling?
Again. I’ve seen wind lay down corn stalks 3 foot tall in fields where the young corn can straighten with time.
Claiming super heating with techno babbling doesn’t explain how making steam in a stalk can bend a stalk in a controlled manner where super heating results in cooking cellulose and making it go limp and lose any ability to maintain any particular rigid shape. Where, if there is no water in the plant microwaving causes no deforming and may lead to charing.
microwaves are microwaves. They aren’t some magical force shield bending over plants. Where you can’t get past microwaves uses water to create superheated water that results in cooking the cellulose and breaking it down.
I've gone past, way past that theory and as you can plainly see from my new post above, other theories may also hold explanations. But you stick with your broccoli in the microwave explanation if that is all you got.
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07-18-2025, 09:05 AM
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(07-18-2025, 09:00 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I've gone past, way past that theory and as you can plainly see from my new post above, other theories may also hold explanations. But you stick with your broccoli in the microwave explanation if that is all you got.
So. You can’t address actual knowledge and examples. And how superheating water in a stalk making a steam explosion? Can be controlled to bend a stalk in a specific direction much less thousands of them? Without cooking and breaking down the cellulose just making the plant go limp? Where you ignore insects make homes in stalks causing nodules. And what do you think happens when a young plant is damaged by wind or hail and continues to grow. What does that healing process result in?
Where I provided a link to a thread on this very site of ball lightning/ plasma in a field which was ignored by crop circle people. Why is that?
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07-18-2025, 09:12 AM
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(07-18-2025, 09:05 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: So. You can’t address actual knowledge and examples. And how superheating water in a stalk making a steam explosion? Can be controlled to bend a stalk in a specific direction much less thousands of them? Without cooking and breaking down the cellulose just making the plant go limp? Where you ignore insects make homes in stalks causing nodules. And what do you think happens when a young plant is damaged by wind or hail and continues to grow. What does that healing process result in?
Where I provided a link to a thread on this very site of ball lightning/ plasma in a field which was ignored by crop circle people. Why is that?
Show us where a ball lightning/plasma field creates intricate or even simplistic interwoven patterns. We want pictures posted, got any? If there are any, then we also want to see lab testing results as to how the stalks were affected. The links I provided have laboratory results depicted by pictures.
While you are at it, please post specific wheat or barley stalk damaged by wind or hail and the stages as to how it becomes erect again and the healing process, with pictures. And where these stalks damaged by same created intricate or even simplistic women patterns.
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07-18-2025, 09:39 AM
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(07-18-2025, 09:12 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Show us where a ball lightning/plasma field creates intricate or even simplistic interwoven patterns.
It’s a good start how something “super heated” reacts to a field. Just stalks in general.
(07-18-2025, 09:12 AM)quintessentone Wrote: We want pictures posted, got any?
Where it’s been demonstrated people with boards and strings can make very intricate crop circles.
Where I asked something specific.
You can’t address actual knowledge and examples. And how superheating water in a stalk making a steam explosion? Can be controlled to bend a stalk in a specific direction much less thousands of them? Without cooking and breaking down the cellulose just making the plant go limp? Where you ignore insects make homes in stalks causing nodules. And what do you think happens when a young plant is damaged by wind or hail and continues to grow. What does that healing process result in?
We know people with boards can make crop circles.
You can’t show how super heating water in a stalk to make a steam explosion can be controlled to make one stalk bend to a specific direction to a rigid shape without cooking the cellulose and making it go limp. Much less thousands of stalks. Where you don’t have an explanation why that would create an interwoven pattern any more than a person with a board. Where you take much liberty with woven, where you mean just different layers laid on top of each other in different directions.
The actual definition of interweave.
Quote:Other forms: interwovenly
When things are knitted or laced together, they're interwoven. Baskets are traditionally made with interwoven strips of straw, bamboo, or palm.
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/interwoven
Any examples of a crop circle that is actual a woven basket?
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(07-17-2025, 06:06 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Levengood’s innuendo from 1994 that couldn’t be verified.
I think back in the day I watched something on crop circles. The pro crop circle peps couldn’t even acknowledge insects can infect a stem and make weird nodules / expansions. Make a bulge in the stem that once grown the insects exit out of. Has nothing to do with how they lay eggs and the larva develops.
should I bother with the other link.
So. I have gone through and explained how there is no evidence strong magnetic fields, radiation interact with plant cellulose with a force to bend them.
Plasma and lasers have to take away material and would cook and breakdown the cellulose. So would microwaves if there was any water in the plant. People microwave dry rice and beans for heating pads no results of being deformed. Often repeatedly.
What we know. The weight of a person and a board can bend stalks. Wheat stems are usually one segment and not like reads with many segments. Insects can infect stems and make nodules. Then creat eruptions when the lava or insect leaves. Hail and wind can bend plants. We have a good idea how much force it takes to bend plants. So. Radiation or magnetism is going to have to act on something to force it to impinge on the plant to act like 80 mph wind or a hail storm to bend the plant. What would be in the environment that radiation or magnetism act on to create wind or hail. Thousands of loose BBs? Freeze the humidity and make ice bullets. That’s about it.
So you are just completely ignoring Taylor's research I posted earlier too? Or is that also 'innuendo'?
You just don't want to admit a possibility. Various types of EM radiation can and do weaken cell walls.
This is not 'acting like wind' in a physical manner. It's a different force.
Nothing anyone posts here will convince you, it's pointless.
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07-18-2025, 10:09 AM
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(07-18-2025, 09:48 AM)sahgwa Wrote: So you are just completely ignoring Taylor's research I posted earlier too? Or is that also 'innuendo'?
You just don't want to admit a possibility. Various types of EM radiation can and do weaken cell walls.
This is not 'acting like wind' in a physical manner. It's a different force.
Nothing anyone posts here will convince you, it's pointless.
I’m not ignoring. Your not addressing anything.
We know people with boards can make crop circles.
You can’t show how super heating water in a stalk to make a steam explosion can be controlled to make one stalk bend to a specific direction to a rigid shape without cooking the cellulose and making it go limp. Much less thousands of stalks. Where you don’t have an explanation why that would create an interwoven pattern any more than a person with a board.
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(07-18-2025, 09:12 AM)quintessentone Wrote: interwoven patterns.
I have seen people weave. They do it all the time. Please show me how to weave with a microwave.
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One flaw in the "its Ted and Dan with planks on their feet" is at no point did Ted and Dan make a crop cricle of the dishonorable member for finchley, because even Ted and Dan would, like most of us, would wand cows to shit on Maggies face.
Also Ted and Dan were in Ibiza at the time.
I was not here.
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Microwaves are used in line of sight communication. How do you make a vortex out of a microwave?
huh.
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(07-18-2025, 11:05 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Microwaves are used in line of sight communication. How do you make a vortex out of a microwave?
huh.
Who and what researcher claimed microwaves are used to make a vortex?
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