Crop Circles

[sahgwa]

I’ve seen that before in FE.

Act like something answers something if you just watch this. While trying to push the inconvenient question in the background.

in otherwise words.  You can’t explain simple things without a whole piece of propaganda.

Asked you a fundamental question on the basis of all this concerning crop circles.


Now.  Please explain how microwaves or the electromagnetic spectrum can bend a plant stalk where bending is compressing the object on the inside radius and causing the object to elongate on the outside radius without cooking it like fresh broccoli in the microwave oven.

Quite simply what the pages I shared say, which I am sure you didn't read, is that the electromagnetic radiation, perhaps microwave in spectrum weakens the cell walls only in the specific cm/mm range of that part of the stalk so it falls over at that point. 
It is directed, not ambient or environmental.
Simple yes?

[quintessentone]

I’ve seen that before in FE.

Act like something answers something if you just watch this. While trying to push the inconvenient question in the background.

in otherwise words.  You can’t explain simple things without a whole piece of propaganda.

Asked you a fundamental question on the basis of all this concerning crop circles.


Now.  Please explain how microwaves or the electromagnetic spectrum can bend a plant stalk where bending is compressing the object on the inside radius and causing the object to elongate on the outside radius without cooking it like fresh broccoli in the microwave oven.

All the videos I post are theories and speculation from the scientists and/or researchers that conducted testing, whether or not microwaves or electromagnetic fields are the causes, is the theory not the answer. The question you are asking should be directed to the MIT Physics Lab, where they did the testing.

I have posted other videos that offer theories, such as energy transfer process that interacts with the plant structure and the soil in a consistent way. Formations show a high degree of precision with no trampling or other clues that humans may leave.

AI revealed that the some patterns displayed relationships based on prime number sequences, fractal geometry, and golden ratios.

Satellite readings show changes in soil density and moisture retention, long after some formations have disappeared. Changes are not visible to the naked eye, but can be detected using sensors that measure subsurface density and thermal gradients. When sensitive magnetometers are placed within the boundaries of some formations they detect low level magnetic flux (lasting magnetic footprint), whereas outside the formation show no activity.

For more in-depth explanation, here is yet another video: (this one is a treasure trove of many theories)

[quintessentone]

Geez, this isn't even my thread. Time for a musical interlude.

"Green Circles"

[WallFlowerActive]

Quite simply what the pages I shared say, which I am sure you didn't read, is that the electromagnetic radiation, perhaps microwave in spectrum weakens the cell walls only in the specific cm/mm range of that part of the stalk so it falls over at that point. 
It is directed, not ambient or environmental.
Simple yes?

Ok.  Techno babble.

Bending isn’t weakening.  I can tie knots in hemp rope without weakening or breaking fibres.

I can make broccoli go limp in the microwave oven because it’s cooked.  That’s not bending.  It’s a different mechanism.

You mentioned something about cell damage.  I stated that electromagnetic radiation attacks the atoms in a cell resulting in killing the cell or causing the cell to mutate.

So how does electromagnetic radiation that I can’t get to bend anything that results in killing and cooking cells makes stalks in a field bend.  Where microwaves actually cook cells.

  Where bending is the actual compression of a material on the inside radius and expansion in the outside radius.

So.  All the evidence for crop circles is a mechanical force is applied to cause a physical bend which would be using something like boards to lay down the plants.  Like I’ve see large sections of young corn fields laid down by the wind to straighten up over a week.  It’s quite evident you can lay down plants and not break them.  Where I have no examples of applied electromagnetic radiation to lay down plants other that your fantasies in how crop circles are created.  Where there is documentation of people creating crop circles.

[quintessentone]

Ok.  Techno babble.

Bending isn’t weakening.  I can tie knots in hemp rope without weakening or breaking fibres.

I can make broccoli go limp in the microwave oven because it’s cooked.  That’s not bending.  It’s a different mechanism.

You mentioned something about cell damage.  I stated that electromagnetic radiation attacks the atoms in a cell resulting in killing the cell or causing the cell to mutate.

So how does electromagnetic radiation that I can’t get to bend anything that results in killing and cooking cells makes stalks in a field bend.  Where microwaves actually cook cells.

  Where bending is the actual compression of a material on the inside radius and expansion in the outside radius.

So.  All the evidence for crop circles is a mechanical force is applied to cause a physical bend which would be using something like boards to lay down the plants.  Like I’ve see large sections of young corn fields laid down by the wind to straighten up over a week.  It’s quite evident you can lay down plants and not break them.  Where I have no examples of applied electromagnetic radiation to lay down plants other that your fantasies in how crop circles are created.  Where there is documentation of people creating crop circles.

There was one story of an Australian farmer who went to his fields in the early morning and heard a loud 'hissing' sound, then saw a craft over the field, then it vanished and a crop circle was found.

Could the 'hissing' sound be the result of water (steam) leaving the stalk from heating, therefore causing the bend?

I don't know, I'm just throwing out theories here.

Nobody seems to know anything.

The strength of plants: theory and experimental methods to measure the mechanical properties of stems - PubMed

[sahgwa]

Ok.  Techno babble.

Bending isn’t weakening.  I can tie knots in hemp rope without weakening or breaking fibres.

I can make broccoli go limp in the microwave oven because it’s cooked.  That’s not bending.  It’s a different mechanism.

You mentioned something about cell damage.  I stated that electromagnetic radiation attacks the atoms in a cell resulting in killing the cell or causing the cell to mutate.

So how does electromagnetic radiation that I can’t get to bend anything that results in killing and cooking cells makes stalks in a field bend.  Where microwaves actually cook cells.

  Where bending is the actual compression of a material on the inside radius and expansion in the outside radius.

So.  All the evidence for crop circles is a mechanical force is applied to cause a physical bend which would be using something like boards to lay down the plants.  Like I’ve see large sections of young corn fields laid down by the wind to straighten up over a week.  It’s quite evident you can lay down plants and not break them.  Where I have no examples of applied electromagnetic radiation to lay down plants other that your fantasies in how crop circles are created.  Where there is documentation of people creating crop circles.

It's not fantasy. 
It's science.

https://www.popsci.com/technology/articl...p-circles/
 PS: How would microwaves flatten crops?
RT: A typical crop has these sort of joints in the stalks. If you expose those to the microwaves, the stalks expand. It’s called superheating. It’s a bit like what goes on in your microwave oven — as the stalk heats up, they expand. The stalks fall over in a horizontal position. When you switch it off, switch off the microwave, the stalks stay in that position. It would make more sense to radiate with microwaves than to go physically stomping these crops. And one interesting phenomenon is the stalks are never broken, they’re just bent.
It’s all a consequence of the development of modern technology. It’s only fairly recently that we’ve been able to have portable magnetrons that can run off a 12-volt battery. Before, you would have to take a generator with you to a crop field.
I’m not saying this is actually what is going on; my article is one explanation. This seems to fit all the facts, and you don’t need aliens. 

Directed electromagnetic radiation of some type, microwave or other, makes the most sense to me.

Have you seen the video footage of the orbs flying over the fields flattening the crops? It's intense.
It's viewable in Why Files. 
I believe it's from VHS from the 90s from Andrew Collins.

[quintessentone]

It's not fantasy. 
It's science.

https://www.popsci.com/technology/articl...p-circles/
 PS: How would microwaves flatten crops?
RT: A typical crop has these sort of joints in the stalks. If you expose those to the microwaves, the stalks expand. It’s called superheating. It’s a bit like what goes on in your microwave oven — as the stalk heats up, they expand. The stalks fall over in a horizontal position. When you switch it off, switch off the microwave, the stalks stay in that position. It would make more sense to radiate with microwaves than to go physically stomping these crops. And one interesting phenomenon is the stalks are never broken, they’re just bent.
It’s all a consequence of the development of modern technology. It’s only fairly recently that we’ve been able to have portable magnetrons that can run off a 12-volt battery. Before, you would have to take a generator with you to a crop field.
I’m not saying this is actually what is going on; my article is one explanation. This seems to fit all the facts, and you don’t need aliens. 

Directed electromagnetic radiation of some type, microwave or other, makes the most sense to me.

Have you seen the video footage of the orbs flying over the fields flattening the crops? It's intense.
It's viewable in Why Files. 
I believe it's from VHS from the 90s from Andrew Collins.

Someone commented, somewhere in one of the videos I posted, that it could be from military microwave space weapon satellite doing testing and maybe the computer genius' got bored (but always wanted to be an mathematical artist) (?)

[WallFlowerActive]

 A typical crop has these sort of joints in the stalks. If you expose those to the microwaves, the stalks expand. It’s called superheating.

It cooks. Goes limp.  Kills the cells.  The Cellulose of the plant is forever broken down and limp.  Unless it dries like paste.  That’s not bending.

Added: When you cook broccoli in the microwave oven you are super heating the water in the broccoli.

The crop circles are more like being bent like I’ve seen then wind lay over young corn where the corn can straighten up with time.

[DanZarfati]

Microwaves in this capacity are not BS at all.
Multiple studies and also readings of microwave radiation:

Exposing plants to microwave radiation causes their knobbly joints to expand, causing the plants to fall over without breaking (an important part of the crop-circle maker’s code of conduct). “Today’s magnetrons are small and light, and some require only 12-V-battery power supplies” to produce microwaves that could quickly knock over great circular swaths of plant matter, Taylor tells Newscripts. “If these artists are not using microwaves, then they should be.”

https://cen.acs.org/articles/89/i34/High...fords.html


https://www.livescience.com/15323-physic...rcles.html


This DOES NOT explain the hovering lights on video that you can see physically flattening the stalks though. 
Unless they are controlled radiation.

Point being is quite simple, microwave is harmful, but most of the plants do not present any harmful effect in growth. 
Vallee point was that a satelite could do that, before they were pushing the idea thata a blimp could do that. It was utterly bollocks. What we are dealinhg with is much beyond that simplistic solutions.

[sahgwa]

Point being is quite simple, microwave is harmful, but most of the plants do not present any harmful effect in growth. 
Vallee point was that a satelite could do that, before they were pushing the idea thata a blimp could do that. It was utterly bollocks. What we are dealinhg with is much beyond that simplistic solutions.

For non man-made ones: 
My theory is that the orbs that are floating around are beaming some sort of EM to the stalks to bend them. I am not sure where the orbs come from or if they are sentient, or just a tool of someone else. 


What is your theory?