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(04-16-2025, 02:50 PM)argentus Wrote: I don't think that youtube link was a good test. Why? Because it consisted of horrific images that would trigger most people. Your image here is what I perceive as a pancake cooking. Wonderful. To show me a completely unnatural image of a human hand with completely unnatural bleeding holes in it is not a test of anything, other than my ability to supress disgust at unnatural things.
Okay good point, I got about 2 seconds in to it and noped out.... nope nope nope
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There are different levels of misophonia, while I can tolerate slurping, I can not tolerate chewing, specifically someone chewing gum open mouthed.
During holiday family dinners, I have music playing in the background and I keep the conversation going to distract myself from the open mouthed eaters. Or put in ear plugs, that works too.
The cure is to expose oneself more to the sound so as to become desensitized to it - as per cognitive behavourists. No thanks...I will use ear plugs.
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I have a particular problem with family dinners --holiday dinners, for example, of which one is coming up this weekend. People are talking and sharing 'fellowship' and passing food around and eating, and at any moment if I look up and see the masticated food inside someone's mouth, it makes me want to hurl. So, I mostly eat with eyes down, which makes me present as a former con who wants to defend their plate.
I have seen some horrific things in my life, people torn and blasted apart, and I have pushed through that. Something about food in a person's mouth truly disgusts me. I'm sorry if I've hijacked this thread to tend toward my own thing. I guess the sounds matter less to me than the sights. I think that slurping soup sounds are natural and don't affect me at all.
We are not really so far from the Savannah as we think, are we? Our technology has outpaced our humanity, but that's another thread. Don't chew with your mouth open. PLEASE. Whatever you have to say can wait. Trust me on that.
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I was taught by my parents to chew with my mouth closed. One reason of course was that this goes a long way in preventing food from falling from the mouth that would later need to be cleaned up. I was taught that it is polite to do so. I never questioned this simple standard of polite behavior when in other peoples company.
It's simple to do. So when I eat with other people who do not hold with this simple standard of politeness I find that I don't eat at their, or invite them to eat at mine. Simple politeness.
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(04-16-2025, 04:59 PM)argentus Wrote: I have a particular problem with family dinners --holiday dinners, for example, of which one is coming up this weekend. People are talking and sharing 'fellowship' and passing food around and eating, and at any moment if I look up and see the masticated food inside someone's mouth, it makes me want to hurl. So, I mostly eat with eyes down, which makes me present as a former con who wants to defend their plate.
I have seen some horrific things in my life, people torn and blasted apart, and I have pushed through that. Something about food in a person's mouth truly disgusts me. I'm sorry if I've hijacked this thread to tend toward my own thing. I guess the sounds matter less to me than the sights. I think that slurping soup sounds are natural and don't affect me at all.
We are not really so far from the Savannah as we think, are we? Our technology has outpaced our humanity, but that's another thread. Don't chew with your mouth open. PLEASE. Whatever you have to say can wait. Trust me on that.
My partner has started talking and eating at the same time, so I told them that they are asking for a choking hazard and I don't feel confident in performing the Heimlich maneuvre on them. It didn't work, but hey that approach may work for you. A choking hazard may also happen with open mouthed eaters who also breath while eating.
All my family members normally eat with mouths closed as I trained them through nagging, but when we have friends or other guests, I would hope they would notice and copy the closed mouth unwritten rule. So far so good, but I still apply background music and keep the convo going to district myself. Most Misophoniacs say it's not other people's problem, it's our problem, so we need to deal with it, not them.
I don't have an issue with viewing masticated food because I am a cook and some cake batters can look pretty nasty (like banana bread batter), but there is another disorder associated with Misophonia named Misokinesia, but that's more being bothered by repetitive or fidgiting movements from others.
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(04-16-2025, 02:15 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Misophonia gives me the same chthonic feeling as trypophobia (the thing with holes). Here is an absolutely awful video I will link to but not embed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiD1EXAgKyw
Egads.
Here is a relatively benign example of a trypophobic image, if it makes you uneasy do not even attempt the test in the video link above:
[Image: https://psychotreat.com/wp-content/uploa...-Holes.jpg]
Anyway that feeling is what chomp chew gulp sounds are like too. Weird? OMG! I never had that, until I watch a (real or fake?) video, of a dog in Africa a long time ago, that they were remove some type of worm from it's sides, and it left holes like that!
Just thinking about it gives me the heeby jeebies!
As far as the eating thing, I can pretty much tune that out. Having 2 boys who liked to try to "gross" each other out, it was a necessity.
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(04-17-2025, 09:42 AM)Chiefsmom Wrote: As far as the eating thing, I can pretty much tune that out. Having 2 boys who liked to try to "gross" each other out, it was a necessity.
Oh that brings back memories:
1: "Wanna play ocean?"
2: "Ocean?"
1: "See-food!" (opens mouth)
Kids are horrible, lol.
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(04-17-2025, 09:08 AM)quintessentone Wrote: My partner has started talking and eating at the same time, so I told them that they are asking for a choking hazard and I don't feel confident in performing the Heimlich maneuvre on them. It didn't work, but hey that approach may work for you. A choking hazard may also happen with open mouthed eaters who also breath while eating.
All my family members normally eat with mouths closed as I trained them through nagging, but when we have friends or other guests, I would hope they would notice and copy the closed mouth unwritten rule. So far so good, but I still apply background music and keep the convo going to district myself. Most Misophoniacs say it's not other people's problem, it's our problem, so we need to deal with it, not them.
I don't have an issue with viewing masticated food because I am a cook and some cake batters can look pretty nasty (like banana bread batter), but there is another disorder associated with Misophonia named Misokinesia, but that's more being bothered by repetitive or fidgiting movements from others.
I have cleaned killed animals all my life, and still do so -- mostly feral chickens. None of that bothers me. I also am a cook, and feed my family every day. I don't know what it is. I can clean nasty stuff out of anywhere without a problem. I see people's chewed food in their mouth and I am officially through with that dinner. I don't see what's so important that people can't just wait, swallow their food, and talk. I also don't understand the cheek-packing thing. I was in jail 45 years ago -- L.A. County, not a good place -- for 60 days, and witnessed the very worst of eating habits. Likely that is where my angst comes from. I survived that place with my soul, life, and tender parts intact, and would kill myself before I'd ever allow myself to go there again amonst those human animals. I didn't know it until just this moment: that is why I have a problem -- a dire problem -- with people talking with food in their mouths. This has been cathardic for me. Thank you.
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(04-17-2025, 03:19 PM)argentus Wrote: I have cleaned killed animals all my life, and still do so -- mostly feral chickens. None of that bothers me. I also am a cook, and feed my family every day. I don't know what it is. I can clean nasty stuff out of anywhere without a problem. I see people's chewed food in their mouth and I am officially through with that dinner. I don't see what's so important that people can't just wait, swallow their food, and talk. I also don't understand the cheek-packing thing. I was in jail 45 years ago -- L.A. County, not a good place -- for 60 days, and witnessed the very worst of eating habits. Likely that is where my angst comes from. I survived that place with my soul, life, and tender parts intact, and would kill myself before I'd ever allow myself to go there again amonst those human animals. I didn't know it until just this moment: that is why I have a problem -- a dire problem -- with people talking with food in their mouths. This has been cathardic for me. Thank you.
That makes some sense because you could not remove yourself from the sound and sight of nasty eating. Maybe it felt like a type of extra torture added in with your sentence (?)
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(04-17-2025, 03:30 PM)quintessentone Wrote: That makes some sense because you could not remove yourself from the sound and sight of nasty eating. Maybe it felt like a type of extra torture added in with your sentence (?)
Perfectly said. I think in some ways, having realised the root of my disgust, I might just be free of it. We will see Sunday, when family is here for Easter dinner. I don't want to be disgusted by my family. That would be super if I were somehow more resistant to feeling disgust at their jolly eating habits (chewing, laughing, talking good God EWWW!)
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