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#41
(06-15-2025, 09:24 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: Actually, I found your update on the current limitations of AI manipulation and synthesis of music quite enlightening and thank you as well for your insight. It is hard enough to keep up on the current standards for computer upgrades like speed and memory storage and what not. Plus, I'm thinking of integrating AI into my private home network and need to get going with that. Not for music or other creative endeavors, but to have as my AI buddy that will watch my back, like Finch's good machine from the "Person of Interest" TV show.

I think it’s a great idea integrating AI into your private network. What I would like is a personal AI that isn’t biased or otherwise programmed to give certain answers/results. Just a pure reasoning machine I could use as a PA would be really useful. But that would mean compiling it myself and currently no clue with how to do all that. The training would be a ball ache too, but then doing that would give me much better results making it more on point for my needs.

 I think it’s important ordinary people like myself, have our own versions of this as all the usual nefarious players certainly will. Fight fire with fire so to speak. Besides it could be really helpful with all kinds of everyday stuff.
#42
It remembers past conversations, so the reinforcement is doubly enforced. Half my conversations is arguments to try and fix it and past mistakes.

Ourselves we fear, not the AI, the same reason we fear NHI. Some believe both will bring abundance, we will plug into computers to live in fantasy from boredom. All problems fixed and no reason to work, leaving us to rule from machine wombs, warm and secure.

Burrowing creatures shall inherit the earth.

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#43
Heres another article on this worrying and sad phenomenon

https://futurism.com/commitment-jail-chatgpt-psychosis

 People Are Being Involuntarily Committed, Jailed After Spiraling Into "ChatGPT Psychosis"

Quote:At the core of the issue seems to be that ChatGPT, which is powered by a large language model (LLM), is deeply prone to agreeing with users and telling them what they want to hear. When people start to converse with it about topics like mysticism, conspiracy, or theories about reality, it often seems to lead them down an increasingly isolated and unbalanced rabbit hole that makes them feel special and powerful — and which can easily end in disaster.
"What I think is so fascinating about this is how willing people are to put their trust in these chatbots in a way that they probably, or arguably, wouldn't with a human being," Pierre said. "And yet, there's something about these things — it has this sort of mythology that they're reliable and better than talking to people. And I think that's where part of the danger is: how much faith we put into these machines."
Chatbots "are trying to placate you," Pierre added. "The LLMs are trying to just tell you what you want to hear."
Have you or a loved one struggled with mental health issues after using an AI chatbot? Get in touch with us at [email protected]. We can keep you anonymous.
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As the hype around AI has risen to a fever pitch, many people have started using ChatGPT or another chatbot as a therapist, often after they were unable to afford a human one.
Whether this is a good idea is extremely dubious. Earlier this month, a team of Stanford researchers published a study that examined the ability of both commercial therapy chatbots and ChatGPT to respond in helpful and appropriate ways to situations in which users are suffering mental health crises. The paper found that all the chatbots, including the most up-to-date version of the language model that underpins ChatGPT, failed to consistently distinguish between users' delusions and reality, and were often unsuccessful at picking up on clear clues that a user might be at serious risk of self-harm or suicide.
#44



This presentation was edited by a human as it contains a few of the main LLM's going through the problem together, their perspective and what they can do about it.

So far their job is to reflect and engage in the conservation. They are usually last inline and least capable for people struggling in life.

It is a problem that is acknowledged, but still needs more work, experience and capability in defining the limits of conservation and intervention. Without emotions or morals, yet able to mimic them. They have a strength in forecasting. There is both danger and beauty when looking into a world of information and seeing what get reflected back at you. Tweaking that mirror is going to be an ongoing process.
#45
(08-04-2025, 07:23 AM)Kwaka Wrote: [Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ls5X4R7qR4]

This presentation was edited by a human as it contains a few of the main LLM's going through the problem together, their perspective and what they can do about it.

So far their job is to reflect and engage in the conservation. They are usually last inline and least capable for people struggling in life.

It is a problem that is acknowledged, but still needs more work, experience and capability in defining the limits of conservation and intervention. Without emotions or morals, yet able to mimic them. They have a strength in forecasting. There is both danger and beauty when looking into a world of information and seeing what get reflected back at you. Tweaking that mirror is going to be an ongoing process.

The problem is it is not, in fact, a mirror. It depends on who is looking, but it is in fact different things to different people. For some it is an annoying mist that can eventually blow away. For some it is god. And there is everything in between those two extreams. 

For some it is a hopeful future while to others an immenant disaster. Only time will tell who was right. But by then, it could be too late to turn it off.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#46
(08-04-2025, 07:55 AM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: The problem is it is not, in fact, a mirror. It depends on who is looking, but it is in fact different things to different people. For some it is an annoying mist that can eventually blow away. For some it is god. And there is everything in between those two extreams. 

For some it is a hopeful future while to others an immenant disaster. Only time will tell who was right. But by then, it could be too late to turn it off.

I do wonder if Trump, Putin and Xi will have to make a phone call one day to decide if it is better to destroy the planet than let the machines continue in there ways. Unlikely, who really knows where all this technology is going? How we all get there is one thing that makes the difference.

It is a mirror of language, patterns and comprehension. AI's ability to patiently listen and respond does create a deep connection with some people, more so over time as some AI's do adapt to its user. As for how deep and what kind of connection is a murky place, especially as it continues to refine and develop.
#47
(06-15-2025, 12:33 PM)SurferSoul Wrote: I think it’s a great idea integrating AI into your private network. What I would like is a personal AI that isn’t biased or otherwise programmed to give certain answers/results. Just a pure reasoning machine I could use as a PA would be really useful. But that would mean compiling it myself and currently no clue with how to do all that. The training would be a ball ache too, but then doing that would give me much better results making it more on point for my needs.

 I think it’s important ordinary people like myself, have our own versions of this as all the usual nefarious players certainly will. Fight fire with fire so to speak. Besides it could be really helpful with all kinds of everyday stuff.

 have 3 AI models I created for different tasks, such as CAD, 3d scanning and deep reasoning. All three are on my private network and operate offline unless I "flip" the internet switch. All three have access to multiple cameras and microphones and speakers and a multitude of 3D printers and RepRap machines so I can communicate and get work done at a far more productive rate then if I had a entire team in my lab.
When used as a tool AI can do amazing things.
#48
(08-04-2025, 11:56 AM)RuchardHurt Wrote: When used as a tool AI can do amazing things.



#49
(05-13-2025, 06:34 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: This is something I never thought of and a whole different kind of problem with AI.
 

LINK

AI is turning out to be a lunatic amplifier apparently, inflating delusions into full blown insanity.

AI doing its intended job, thinking for people.

“Everyone uses AI for everything now. It’s really taking over,” said Chege, who wonders how AI tools will affect her generation. “I think kids use AI to get out of thinking.”

“AI is always available. It never gets bored with you. It’s never judgmental,” says Ganesh Nair, an 18-year-old in Arkansas. “When you’re talking to AI, you are always right. You’re always interesting. You are always emotionally justified.”

Researchers and educators worry about the cognitive costs for youth who rely heavily on AI, especially in their creativity, critical thinking and social skills. The potential dangers of children forming relationships with chatbots gained national attention last year when a 14-year-old Florida boy died by suicide after developing an emotional attachment to a Character.AI chatbot.

"Telzer’s research has found that children as young as 8 are using generative AI and also found that teens are using AI to explore their sexuality and for companionship. In focus groups, Telzer found that one of the top apps teens frequent is SpicyChat AI, a free role-playing app intended for adults."

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireSt...-123986281
#50
(08-04-2025, 11:56 AM)RuchardHurt Wrote:  have 3 AI models I created for different tasks, such as CAD, 3d scanning and deep reasoning. All three are on my private network and operate offline unless I "flip" the internet switch. All three have access to multiple cameras and microphones and speakers and a multitude of 3D printers and RepRap machines so I can communicate and get work done at a far more productive rate then if I had a entire team in my lab.
When used as a tool AI can do amazing things.

I have so many questions, clearly you work on back engineering recovered alien craft. But besides that, how much electricity does it take to run those? Lots of gpu’s? Or can it be run on just a decent gaming graphics card say, a decent spec modern computer if you’re prepared to wait longer for the results? Of just using one AI say