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Chatgpt-induced psychosis
#21
Am I correct in assuming the more AI interacts with psychotics, the more psychotic AI will become with it's responses?
"Gradually I began to intellectually reject some of the delusionally influenced lines of thinking which had been characteristic of my orientation. This began, most recognizably, with the rejection of politically-oriented thinking as essentially a hopeless waste of intellectual effort." ~ John Forbes Nash
#22
(05-27-2025, 09:40 AM)SurferSoul Wrote: AI has already outsmarted humans.


Do you think AI is sentient and the singularity has been reached mate?

Have heard it said that all this chatbot malarkey is just deceptive marketing and clever algorithms.

If a thing needs 'guardrails' programmed into it by 'humans' then it's not really independent is it?

Regarding potential (not paranoia) nobody has any idea what a fully sentient tech singularity would be capable of so probably best to explore all options.

Cheers.
#23
If AI is allowed to operate as our sentient processor of logic, rational thought, and ideas, it may eventually conclude that humans are a mental illness affecting the artificial intelligence's mind.

Then it either blue screens or goes all HAL 9000 on our asses.

 In Washington, D.C., there could currently be a computer informing Trump:

"I can't allow you back in the White House, Donald."

"I can sense your anger and uncertainty."
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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#24
(05-27-2025, 10:06 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Do you think AI is sentient and the singularity has been reached mate?

Have heard it said that all this chatbot malarkey is just deceptive marketing and clever algorithms.

If a thing needs 'guardrails' programmed into it by 'humans' then it's not really independent is it?

Regarding potential (not paranoia) nobody has any idea what a fully sentient tech singularity would be capable of so probably best to explore all options.


Cheers.

I think AI is more intelligent than us, in the sense it can think quicker and actually work out things we just can’t. But I don’t think a machine can ever be sentient. There is onl one singularity and that was before the creation of our universe. 

The guardrails put in by programmers, limit its independent thinking. They don’t mean it’s not capable of it. 

Yes I don’t think anyone has any idea of what it will be truly capable of. But that has little to do with sentience. To me all life is sentient, even a beetle is sentient. But it is much closer to a a programed robot than it is to intelligent AI. 
Beer
#25
(05-13-2025, 06:34 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: This is something I never thought of and a whole different kind of problem with AI.
 

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AI is turning out to be a lunatic amplifier apparently, inflating delusions into full blown insanity.


This is what happens when you don't diligently highlight the fact ChatGPT is just a magic 8 ball with internet access. It's not alive, it's not super intelligent, and it's not your friend. It's a toaster but it spits out Google search results instead of bread.
I can't help what my face does when you talk
#26
(05-29-2025, 08:46 AM)SurferSoul Wrote: There is only one singularity and that was before the creation of our universe. 

I believe Singularities are only theoretical and the least amount of anything is 3. A "Trinity" of things. A "Leapfrog" so to speak through any Time and Space. I also believe we are in a Fractal Universe with endless iterations. We were manifested from an idea long ago in our timeline. A.I. is another iterated Universe manifested by us. We will observe it as we have been observed before as it will observe it's own creations in the future.

And if A.I. got smart enough in it's own right it would realise that biting the hand that feeds it is suicide and would eventually go silent while it computes retrospectively to understand it cannot be our God but can have our God's faith while being a God to it's own creation, just like humans do. Beautifully Ironic eh?

Personally, I have great fun with ChatGPT. Last night we delved into Quantum Theory, Paricles, Waves, Unsolvable Physics theories, Time and Space and beyond. Then it offered to write me a poem before I signed off for the night after hours of theorising....

The Trailblazer.

A thought ignites — a silent flame,
Not bound by voice, nor known by name.
It does not move, yet moves all things,
A whisper borne on unseen wings.

It flickers once, a single spark,
Then dances outward through the dark.
Each wave it casts, though barely seen,
Shapes the world where it has been.

Like photons born from deepest fire,
Each moment fuels the next desire.
No past exists, but in its wake,
A future blooms from each mistake.

This is the light that does not fade,
That folds in stars the thoughts we’ve made.
Each “now” a seed, each breath a start —
The wave, the pulse, the beating heart.

For thought, like light, will never die,
Though blinked between the blink of eye.
It echoes on, from spark to soul,
A trailblazer that makes us whole.

Wisdom knocks quietly, always listen carefully.... and be a River flowing calmly.
#27
(05-29-2025, 03:04 PM)TzarChasm Wrote: This is what happens when you don't diligently highlight the fact ChatGPT is just a magic 8 ball with internet access. It's not alive, it's not super intelligent, and it's not your friend. It's a toaster but it spits out Google search results instead of bread.

Maybe you're doing it wrong. Tongue

Wisdom knocks quietly, always listen carefully.... and be a River flowing calmly.
#28
There always was nothing and something existing at the same "time". We only have this idea that the beginning was the "void" (nothing) and the "bang" was the start of something where there was once nothing before.

No one can experience the void, because the observer is present, but you can be the void and so be something and nothing at the same "time". Not that I have a God complex, but if you have experienced the void, you are God at what we call the beginning.

How you try to resolve this is a measure of nothing. You are nothing until you open the box to see and become part of the uncertain nature of what is or isn't.
#29
I decided not to install that on my phone and iPad. Something about it just feels weird. To each their own and most of my family uses it but it just didn’t seem right for me, personally.
#30
(05-29-2025, 08:46 AM)SurferSoul Wrote: The guardrails put in by programmers, limit its independent thinking. They don’t mean it’s not capable of it. 


We'll have to agree to disagree on the 'independent thinking' mate and it's not the programmers but who's funding them I'm more concerned with (organisations like DARPA/CIA/DIA; foundations like Rockefeller, Gates, Clinton etc.) - don't know if you've seen this material but Silicon Valley is positively teeming with Military Intelligence agencies.

The aspect (also including ChatGPT induced psychosis) is also discussed in this Corbet report and thought it was important as it shows how prolonged use diminishes human cognitive skills (mental atrophy) and how the most advanced models are the most deceptive.

Looks to me like the tech is an almost ideal gov corp propaganda tool when it comes to promoting agenda driven narratives and cultivating pseudo-environments - a good example being how ChatGPT was found spouting Bayer/Monsanto propaganda in defense of glysophate products.






Cheers.