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Ok not sure where this started, but it looks as if some media types might be trying to tie the shooter with antifa. We shouldn't get sucked into a misdirection trap.
If you see this type of talk going on you might need to review the source of it. My source, take it or leave it, is from a newsroom producer I met through a friend. I think the narrative is going to get pushed toward forcing a full-on confrontation between antifa and the Feds before Portland and Seattle get National Guard units.
I'm posting this as just a heads up.
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(09-11-2025, 11:23 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Jesus... is it too late to do another final guess?
* Recomputing *
Its a foreign national that wants to appear like a transactivist. Misdirection. Like leaving the engraved gun and bullets behind to frame it that way.
They could be mixed enough to look almost white... but still could be Asian.
Better than another demonization-worthly LGBT person out to be a counter-productive martyr. Which everything appears to want to suggest.
And I cant be the only one, that upon closer inspection, thinks this person looks a little Chinese.
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...hinese.jpg]
It's late, and I can't tell if you are being serious or dismissive
... but we can have a transgender component and still have a foreign element, whether they are paid or programmed.
Crooks likely had a foreign influence.
This gives Uncle Sam the worst-case scenario
We have foreign agents influencing and agitating an already agitated, enflamed, and unbalanced pain in the ass demographic group.
It would be better if it were just a lone nutter, but I don't think thats the case here.
It appears to be a loose group or one with some support from a domestic or foreign source, likely with bad intentions.
The sad part is that the transgender community has come a long way since the 70s and 80s, but they stand to lose much of that advancement by being hard cases now ...
It's not realistic to get Uncle Sam's full platinum package of individual rights in such a short period of time, especially if the main platform is having 1% dictate its reality for the rest.
America is built on compromise, but there seems to be no compromise in the extremist left.
The smart move would be to stand down, solidify your gains, and wait till there is a more advantageous political climate
You know, like every other minority group EVER in the history of America.
Think about it? We are just now getting to where racial and religious minorities are represented in Congress
Continue to force-feed the majority, and the majority is likely to regurgitate all it's been forced to eat. Small doses are easier to keep down; the majority have an extra-sensitive gag reflex.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
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Just the words of 2 prominent people of the 1990s and 2000s
J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling
If you believe free speech is for you but not your political opponents, you're illiberal.
If no contrary evidence could change your beliefs, you're a fundamentalist.
If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you're a totalitarian.
If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you're a terrorist.
She isn't wrong...
Nor is Mike Rowe
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
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09-12-2025, 03:59 AM
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(09-12-2025, 03:40 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Just the words of 2 prominent people of the 1990s and 2000s
J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling
If you believe free speech is for you but not your political opponents, you're illiberal.
If no contrary evidence could change your beliefs, you're a fundamentalist.
If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you're a totalitarian.
If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you're a terrorist.
She isn't wrong...
Nor is Mike Rowe
Perhaps, perhaps not....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ation.html
Quote:Trump administration threatens crackdown on foreigners who 'make light' of Charlie Kirk assassination.
On X, Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau stated that the U.S. will respond to foreign nationals within its borders who express support for or downplay the assassination of Charlie Kirk on social media.
Specifically, 'praising, rationalizing, or making light of' Kirk's assassination on social media.'
'In light of yesterday's horrific assassination of a leading political figure, I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country,' Landau wrote on X.
Landau added, 'I have been disgusted to see some on social media praising, rationalizing, or making light of the event, and have directed our consular officials to undertake appropriate action. Please feel free to bring such comments by foreigners to my attention so that the @StateDept can protect the American people.'
Landau responded to a comment asking how people could flag these individuals. He responded saying he will direct consular officials to monitor the comments to his post.
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
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They still have not apprehended the suspect or seemingly even have a name.
This is really strange considering the coverage and resources at their disposal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c206zm81z4gt
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-12-2025, 04:21 AM)andy06shake Wrote: They still have not apprehended the suspect or seemingly even have a name.
This is really strange considering the coverage and resources at their disposal.
I don't think they are going to catch him.
AND ...
I don't think Kash Patel is up for the job.
Three times they have hauled people in saying 'this is the one' ... and three times they were wrong.
That's pretty bad.
make russia small again
Don't be a useful idiot. Deny Ignorance.
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(09-12-2025, 03:40 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Just the words of 2 prominent people of the 1990s and 2000s
J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling
If you believe free speech is for you but not your political opponents, you're illiberal.
If no contrary evidence could change your beliefs, you're a fundamentalist.
If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you're a totalitarian.
If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you're a terrorist.
She isn't wrong...
Nor is Mike Rowe
[Video: https://youtu.be/coVA0jtYPd4?si=s16Nf-0zeQxiE7py]
The problem is that a lot of the right wing seem to be blaming Democrats without evidence.
Thus ticking some of those boxes, framing it as war, and using very militant rhetoric.
All the baseless calls for violence do is escalate tensions.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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This is the footage of him jumping off the roof and leaving the site
The only thing in his hand is a bag
If the gun is in that bag, it's disassembled
So...after firing the shot, he disassembled the gun, put it in the bag, ran to the woods, reassembled the gun, wrapped it in a towel and left it
Link
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(09-12-2025, 04:27 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I don't think they are going to catch him.
AND ...
I don't think Kash Patel is up for the job.
Three times they have hauled people in saying 'this is the one' ... and three times they were wrong.
That's pretty bad.
It's really strange.
And yeah, they do seem to be fumbling about in the dark.
I do hope the perp is caught all the same.
Because, without proper justice, some people might be inclined to do some rather silly things, if im taking the current temperature of the likes of FB and Twitter accordingly.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-12-2025, 04:35 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: [Image: https://i.imgur.com/n8vQQVv.jpeg]
This is the footage of him jumping off the roof and leaving the site
The only thing in his hand is a bag
If the gun is in that bag, it's disassembled
So...after firing the shot, he disassembled the gun, put it in the bag, ran to the woods, reassembled the gun, wrapped it in a towel and left it
Link
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/cXUWDd2.jpeg]
Well spotted.
How long does a ballistic comparison test take?
I would imagine they should be able to determine relatively easily if that was the weapon used to make the shot.
As to reassembling the thing, yeah, that makes little sense.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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