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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(03-31-2026, 01:18 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Is “arranged” supposed to be a spooky word when it’s in quotes? LoL

Yeah .. that was funny.    Lol
The man arranged for the turn in.
So why get all spooky with the quotes around the word?
Ridiculous.
(04-01-2026, 09:57 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Rolleyes Rolleyes Rolleyes

The bullet going into Kirk struck bone and shattered.
It's not that the bullet didn't match the gun ...
It's that the bullet isn't able to be matched to anything.
It's in many shattered fragments.

.... this per TV news this morning.

Kirk did it.
He admitted it.
He turned himself in.
There is no conspiracy here.
He's a murdering wingnut. 
Nothing more.

It seems like sloppy forensic work to have not have originally tried to match the fragments to the other three bullets retrieved along with the firearm.

"Officials recovered the weapon near the scene of the shooting with one spent cartridge in the chamber and three unfired bullets etched with meme-influenced messages."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...399761007/

Sloppy.  Rolleyes
"The only journey is the one within."
(04-01-2026, 10:22 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It seems like sloppy forensic work to have not have originally tried to match the fragments to the other three bullets retrieved along with the firearm.

Lol   And who says they didn't?   You always try to pass yourself off as an expert in every topic on this forum even though you know nothing of the topics except that which google and AI tell you.  (the Dunning Kruger effect in full display).   Are you now supposedly an expert in police forensics and investigative processes?   

The investigators know what they are doing.   They are trained in this and have the years of experience.  You don't.

The bullet was too shattered to match to ANY weapon.
The fact that they couldn't match it doesn't mean that the gun wasn't the one used.

The man admitted to the shooting.
He turned himself in for it.
There is no conspiracy here.
(04-01-2026, 10:22 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It seems like sloppy forensic work to have not have originally tried to match the fragments to the other three bullets retrieved along with the firearm.

"Officials recovered the weapon near the scene of the shooting with one spent cartridge in the chamber and three unfired bullets etched with meme-influenced messages."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...399761007/

Sloppy.  Rolleyes


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Poor Horatio ....

Well, Golden Earring was wrong, we didnt "know" when the bullet hit the bone
 
Quote:Why didn't forensics match the bullet from Charlie's Kirk murder to the ones in the rifle

Forensic ballistics testing was inconclusive because the bullet recovered from Charlie Kirk's autopsy was a damaged fragment that lacked sufficient microscopic markings for a definitive match to the suspect rifle.
usatoday.com
Charlie Kirk was fatally shot on September 10, 2025, while speaking at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. Tyler Robinson, 22, was charged with aggravated murder (prosecutors are seeking the death penalty). Investigators recovered a Mauser Model 98 bolt-action rifle (chambered in .30-06 Springfield) near the scene in a wooded area, along with DNA evidence, a palm print, footprint, and other items allegedly linking it to Robinson. The rifle contained one spent cartridge and three unfired ones.
usatoday.com
In a March 27, 2026, court filing, Robinson's defense team cited a summary of an ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) report stating that the agency "was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr. Robinson." They are using this to seek a delay in the preliminary hearing (originally set for May) and may present it as potentially exculpatory evidence.
snopes.com
Why the match failed (per official explanations)
  • The evidence was a bullet fragment recovered during the autopsy, not an intact bullet. Ballistics identification relies on comparing unique microscopic striations, scratches, and impressions left on a bullet by the barrel's rifling (essentially like a "fingerprint" unique to each gun).
    cbsnews.com
  • Utah County Attorney's Office spokesperson Christopher D. Ballard explained: "When the results of a bullet fragment analysis come back as inconclusive, that means only that the fragment did not contain enough detail for the examiner to determine whether the characteristics on the fragment were consistent with having been fired by a particular firearm."
    usatoday.com

  • High-velocity rifle bullets (especially .30-06) often fragment or deform severely on impact—particularly if they strike bone—which can obliterate or obscure those individualizing marks. This is a well-known limitation in forensic ballistics; it's not proof the bullet didn't come from the rifle, just that the physical evidence on the fragment was insufficient for a conclusive link.
    cbsnews.com

The ATF report itself remains private, but defense attorneys quoted the inconclusive finding directly from the summary provided in discovery. Prosecutors note that supplemental reports (including from additional testing) are still coming.
usatoday.com
Ongoing/additional testingThe FBI is separately conducting:
  • A second comparative bullet analysis.
  • A bullet-lead analysis (comparing the elemental composition of the lead in the fragment to known samples, to check batch/source consistency).
These were not complete at the time of the defense filing.
usatoday.com
Broader context in the caseProsecutors are not relying solely on ballistics. Other evidence cited includes Robinson's DNA on the rifle (trigger, fired casing, unfired cartridges), a towel wrapped around the weapon, texts allegedly from Robinson admitting to targeting Kirk, surveillance/video, witness accounts, and items from the roof where the shot was fired.
cbsnews.com
The defense highlights that some DNA was mixed and argues the ballistics gap weakens the gun link, but courts treat an "inconclusive" result as neutral—it neither confirms nor excludes the rifle. This is standard in firearms cases involving damaged projectiles.No public evidence suggests tampering, a different gun, or that the bullet "doesn't match" in the sense of being from a completely different caliber or type. It's a common forensic outcome when evidence is fragmented. The case remains ongoing, with more forensic details expected as testing concludes and the trial proceeds.
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(04-01-2026, 10:39 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Lol   And who says they didn't?   You always try to pass yourself off as an expert in every topic on this forum even though you know nothing of the topics except that which google and AI tell you.  (the Dunning Kruger effect in full display).   Are you now supposedly an expert in police forensics and investigative processes?   

The investigators know what they are doing.   They are trained in this and have the years of experience.  You don't.

The bullet was too shattered to match to ANY weapon.
The fact that they couldn't match it doesn't mean that the gun wasn't the one used.

The man admitted to the shooting.
He turned himself in for it.
There is no conspiracy here.

Not true and your toxic manipulations don't work.

I'm not claiming there is a conspiracy here, I am saying sloppy forensics is what it appears to me. They have now claimed that they will do further analyses which they failed to do in the first place. Whatever they are doing, they aren't doing it properly and this sloppy forensics could affect the perps sentencing.

You don't seem to be able to understand a simple post and make up nonsense in your head, as usual.
"The only journey is the one within."
(04-01-2026, 10:46 AM)quintessentone Wrote:  I am saying sloppy forensics is what it appears to me.

Lol  And as Putnam6 just posted .... it's not.
This is standard for investigations as this one.
Which you would know if you were an experienced investigative police officer in the USA.
But of course you are not.  So what do you know?   Pretty much ... nothing.
(04-01-2026, 10:49 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Lol  And as Putnam6 just posted .... it's not.
This is standard for investigations as this one.
Which you would know if you were an experienced investigative police officer in the USA.
But of course you are not.  So what do you know?   Pretty much ... nothing.

"The defense said in its motion that it may try to use the analysis to clear Robinson of blame during the preliminary hearing, while prosecutors aim to show they have enough evidence against him to proceed with a trial."

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/31/us/tyler-...arlie-kirk

Robinson's lawyers seem to know how to proceed with this so called experienced ballistics investigative analyses.

Robinson has pleaded not guilty to the charges of aggravated murder and other counts related to the murder of CK.
"The only journey is the one within."
(04-01-2026, 11:07 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: What does this person know about the murder of Charlie Kirk

You bad. Did you see the courtroom drama with that person?
"The only journey is the one within."
(04-01-2026, 10:56 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Robinson's lawyers seem to know how to proceed with this so called experienced ballistics investigative analyses.
Lol Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol

They are desperately grabbing at anything and everything to try to save their murdering whackjob client.  Typical of a defense team stuck in the impossible situation that they are in.   As Putnam6 showed ... this is indeed experienced and educated investigative police investigations happening, and the NEUTRAL finding of the ballistics is to be expected considering that the bullet was severely shattered.

You didn't read the information given by Putnam6 ... did you?  
Yeah ... didn't think so.
Otherwise, you wouldn't be doubling down on this nonsense.
Then again ... it's you ... so perhaps you would.    Lol
(04-01-2026, 11:07 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: What does this person know about the murder of Charlie Kirk

That's just stupid.
Usually you do better than that.
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