06-12-2024, 11:51 PM
(06-10-2024, 05:54 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Respectfully disagree there mate - when CIA Director Woolsey asked Chief Historian Gerald K Haines write the official history of the 'CIA involvement with the subject of UFOs' he made some very specific claims (and also some extremely curious omissions).Thank ya, thank ya!!!
Bruce passed away recently but you can read all about the details involving the U2 / OXCART (SR-71 or Blackbird) projects here - don't know how long his site will be up but didn't want to just copy and paste everything as there are lots of data sets and statistics.
Also, if you want to know what the CIA were actually saying about the UFO subject during those years then this is a relevant book as it focuses solely on the internal reaction to it from military and intelligence communities.
Am not that fond of the ETH as an explanation for UFO origin myself mate (despite constant mainstream promotion) and quite a few researchers I respect don't think UFOs are extra solar aliens either.
Thought this video was a good one as it posits that to assume UFOs are aliens is 'inherently contradictory, presumptuous and unscientific'.
Walked away from a lot of "document bickering" years ago cause at some point it finally registered with me the answers I was looking for weren't down that avenue. Plus the notion "whatever" was behind unsolved ufo incidents didn't give 2 figs what any of us think about it & had no intention of coming forward.
It's only in the last few years I got interested in the historical aspects so I love me a good history lesson!! You do have to admit these agencies parse words tighter than my Mom making a penny scream for mercy. Omission is still a tool they use.
Whether in corporate circles or IC circles key to keeping your butt outta a sling is
"You only answer the question you want to answer, never the one the opposition wants you to answer". You always control the narrative.
The CIA said "Unusual things in the sky are ours"" is exactly that tactic.
Several problem arise. OK if they're ours why can't you track them? If they're ours they are "homed" someplace yet instead we're told "We don't know where they come from". Anyone else believe the US military doesn't know where they keep their assets? Obviously the public has no need to know where our military resources are based but we do expect the military to know.
Chris Mellon & crew after the Grush drama backfired switched quickly to NHI terminology. Back in the 1900's I'm sure the CIA had a very different mindset, so the historical stuff is true. But equally true is "action plans/directives/policy change over time. NHI study is now ripe with new funding, extremely difficult to define, the general public is woefully ignorant about how to dicern a legit scientific study from a flawed one. The IC community has to be thrilled beyond belief!!
