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(12-17-2025, 03:10 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Well, clearly, the general public in Australia do actually still have access to firearms.
That they do, so they can go and kill 12 people and wound 29 more...... yeah their gun control seems to be working so well..... derp derp derp
The only thing that stopped that was a good guy that took the shooters gun. Oh no, a good guy with a gun, stopped a bad guy with a gun. Who would have ever thought that would work?
Quote:And also, clearly, from what has once again happened there in the US, gun proliferation is neither defensive nor preventative.
Have you never noticed that these things always seem to happen in places with strict gun policies? Of course you don't, you see that it happened in the US so you hop on your high horse of "nobody should have guns".
Let me ask you this, why would a gunman seek out a place that is, usually, in a strict anti gun state and also in a location where guns are not allowed. IE schools and malls. Think it has anything to do with the fact that there is almost a 99.99999% chance that nobody there will have a gun and be able to fight back? I'm sure you think that has nothing to do with it...
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(12-17-2025, 03:18 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: That they do, so they can go and kill 12 people and wound 29 more...... yeah their gun control seems to be working so well..... derp derp derp
The only thing that stopped that was a good guy that took the shooters gun. Oh no, a good guy with a gun, stopped a bad guy with a gun. Who would have ever thought that would work?
Have you never noticed that these things always seem to happen in places with strict gun policies? Of course you don't, you see that it happened in the US so you hop on your high horse of "nobody should have guns".
Let me ask you this, why would a gunman seek out a place that is, usually, in a strict anti gun state and also in a location where guns are not allowed. IE schools and malls. Think it has anything to do with the fact that there is almost a 99.99999% chance that nobody there will have a gun and be able to fight back? I'm sure you think that has nothing to do with it...
You seem to be unable to understand the cognitive dissonance of someone having a gun in a place that allegedly has strict gun control policies? Surely it is proof that the policies are not strict. Like where guns can be carried, posted or couriered from surrounding areas without restrictions.
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(12-17-2025, 03:34 PM)chr0naut Wrote: You seem to be unable to understand the cognitive dissonance of someone having a gun in a place that allegedly has strict gun control policies? Surely it is proof that the policies are not strict.  No. It just means that the bad guys don't follow the laws and that the only people getting restricted by excessive gun control laws are the law abiding citizens that need the guns and deserve the guns.
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(12-17-2025, 04:38 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: No. It just means that the bad guys don't follow the laws and that the only people getting restricted by excessive gun control laws are the law abiding citizens that need the guns and deserve the guns.
I'm fairly sure that gun controls even affect a lot of the bad guys, too.
Especially if being unlicensed and/or in possesion of an unregistered weapon were a considered a criminal act - with an immediate mandatory sentence, and confiscation not for resale (a bit like they do with boy-racer cars, which, by the way, also require licensing and registration to be valid and no-one except offenders, legitimately complains about).
The opposite, which would arm everyone (include the insane and the criminal) doesn't prevent any shootings even a tiny bit.
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I bet Brown University was a gun free zone, with SIGNS!
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
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(12-17-2025, 09:16 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: I bet Brown University was a gun free zone, with SIGNS!

Yes: https://policy.brown.edu/policy/weapons
But gun free zones aren't deadly weapons, are they?
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(12-17-2025, 09:21 PM)chr0naut Wrote: But guns are concealable and they can kill people from a distance. Even from outside of exclusion zones.
Gun free zones arent deadly weapons, guns are.
Jesus.
Only criminals will have guns in a gun free zone, try to keep up.
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(12-17-2025, 09:21 PM)chr0naut Wrote: But guns are concealable and they can kill people from a distance. Even from outside of exclusion zones.
Gun free zones arent deadly weapons, guns are.
Guns are tools.
It's the people that use them are the real assholes.
Learn the difference.
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(12-17-2025, 09:25 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Jesus.
Only criminals will have guns in a gun free zone, try to keep up.
If they are concealed, how do you know?
"The only journey is the one within."
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(12-17-2025, 09:25 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Jesus.
Only criminals will have guns in a gun free zone, try to keep up.
Sure, but does the criminality stem from being in a gun free zone, or from having a gun there?
... and I don't think Jesus was a weapons proliferation kind of guy.
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