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#31
(08-14-2025, 10:28 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Kind of done a little edit of my last comment with additional questions to ponder.

Take it you have also heard of Scientology, and the ethos they promote? 

Icke is interesting, and also a bit nuts imho.

First discovered him via his book "Truth Vibrations" which i read on a trip to Lloret de Mar, many, many, moons ago.....................and also the Terry Wogan show. 

Here are my conclusions thus far:

1. Clarity at the moment of death is imperative.
 
2. Have no fear. Fear will produce a memory wipe and forced reincarnation.
 
3. Do not go to the light. Do not believe anyone that meets you is there for your wellbeing. They aren’t your family or friends. They are a construct created by an AI using your mind to feed you bullshit that you will be endeared to.
 
4. Do not ask, but COMMAND that your higher self returns to you. Wait for this to come.
 
5. Once step 4 is complete. DEMAND to see the exit points to return to your original point of creation.
 
Very important to note: we do not ask - we DEMAND. We are creators and should be subservient to absolutely NOBODY! The worship gene was placed in us for a reason. We are meant to believe we are lowly spiritual beings that require a higher power. We ARE the higher power.
#32
(08-14-2025, 10:26 AM)AlroyFarms Wrote: @KKLoco

I hear ya, and you and I agree on almost everything except about the reason for the prison and memory wipes. All religions do speak of the material world being a shadow compared to the divine. Everyone knew it was a prison from the start.

Jesus, Buddha and other Avatara did come to teach the way out. There is a way out. All religions do agree there is a way to attain the divine once again. 

Happy journies and God bless

What do you believe the prison and memory wipes are for?

I have spent countless hours trying to come up with any type of rational explanation for memory wipes. I cannot come to any conclusion that has any type of benefit for us. As an example, we go to elementary school, then middle school, followed by high school. Then many go on to college. We do not forget everything we learned from the previous schools when advancing on. The idea is to retain all of it. So how do we learn when we aren't able to remember?
#33
(08-14-2025, 10:34 AM)KKLoco Wrote: Here are my conclusions thus far:

1. Clarity at the moment of death is imperative.
 
2. Have no fear. Fear will produce a memory wipe and forced reincarnation.
 
3. Do not go to the light. Do not believe anyone that meets you is there for your wellbeing. They aren’t your family or friends. They are a construct created by an AI using your mind to feed you bullshit that you will be endeared to.
 
4. Do not ask, but COMMAND that your higher self returns to you. Wait for this to come.
 
5. Once step 4 is complete. DEMAND to see the exit points to return to your original point of creation.
 
Very important to note: we do not ask - we DEMAND. We are creators and should be subservient to absolutely NOBODY! The worship gene was placed in us for a reason. We are meant to believe we are lowly spiritual beings that require a higher power. We ARE the higher power.

Well, im good at demanding.  Spin

The "have no fear part" when im dying, im not so sure.

Considering fear of the unknown is part of the human condition and directly connected to our fight or flight response.

Truth is KKLoco, we simply won't know until we go.

My advice is to hedge one's bet, after all, if im wrong, im never going to know. 

Hopefully, wherever we land is better than this verse, put it that way.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#34
(08-14-2025, 10:41 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Well, im good at demanding.  Spin

The "have no fear part" when im dying, im not so sure.

Considering fear of the unknown is part of the human condition and directly connected to our fight or flight response.

Truth is KKLoco, we simply won't know until we go.

My advice is to hedge one's bet, after all, if im wrong, im never going to know. 

Hopefully, wherever we land is better than this verse, put it that way.  Saint2

This is why the monks meditate in the Himalayas for decades before they die. They know the system and are trying to escape it. 

The absolute worst way to die is in your sleep. Very difficult to understand that you have transitioned from that state to the afterlife. 

It's interesting, since I have come to these understandings, I do not fear death anymore. I used to hate my birthdays, as it signaled older age and eventual death. I actually relish them now. I look forward to the day when I transition off this shithole. 

There is more to this, though. Because there is a huge part of me that is PISSED OFF! I do not believe the majority of us deserve to be here. When I do escape this realm, I will make it my eternal mission to free everyone here. While I do believe some deserve this prison (such as most political leaders), the fact is - it has been abused. So that means everyone gets freed. This place is the opposite of 'divine'.
#35
The thing is life rarely gives us what we "deserve". 

It tends to give us what we negotiate, fight for, or stumble into. 

Deserve is the human sense of justice.

Reality operates on chance, power, and circumstance.

Which tends to be why effort, adaptability, and persistence.

Matter more than fairness in this verse.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#36
(08-14-2025, 03:55 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I dont know about reincarnation, it's fraught with issues like the rest of our organised religious practices. 

I hope it's not real.   Imagine being punished in this life for something you did in a past life, but that you don't even remember doing.   Doesn't make any sense.   There is nothing to be learned from that.   Useless suffering.
#37
(08-14-2025, 10:39 AM)KKLoco Wrote: What do you believe the prison and memory wipes are for?

I have spent countless hours trying to come up with any type of rational explanation for memory wipes. I cannot come to any conclusion that has any type of benefit for us. As an example, we go to elementary school, then middle school, followed by high school. Then many go on to college. We do not forget everything we learned from the previous schools when advancing on. The idea is to retain all of it. So how do we learn when we aren't able to remember?

I believe it's because of just how horrid a collective memory of multiple lifetimes can be. A single lifetime is already tough enough to deal with in this prison.

I'll try to share one of my experiences when I asked to see why I'm in this prison. I demanded that proof. 

Nature is brutal. It's a dimension of life feeding on life and that's just the animal kingdom. Human beings wantonly do despicable acts and violence to each other. Do you really want to remember every killing, raping, torture? Whether something done to you or something that you've done to others? (I can't speak for every person's reason for being here, but me personally yes, I'm here for a good reason. I'm serving a sentence.) 

What about things like losing friends, family, children. Losing loved ones can take a lifetime of work to cope with. 

You're right, this prison sucks. It's filled with a lot of pain and suffering. 

When I began to go down that dark hallway I had to stop almost immediately. You feel it all at once. Life flashing before your eyes. Do you really want to hold onto several lifetimes of pain instead of just the current one?

I too asked how progression works if we can't remember. It's just intrinsically built into the current bodily incarnation. We're not rapists and murderers right now, are we? No. We have an unexplainable feeling of right and wrong, that moral compass. Just somehow we know. We're able to empathize with others and see the life in each other and learn to respect that now.

We get the updates while being spared the memories. The reason is to learn how to continue being a model prisoner. We get out on good behavior. And it's all a choice--this is why we can't see every karmic effect, otherwise it would be a forced response instead of a choice.

Now this is the part I find to be total BS. Often we are shown the example that the worst behaviors are rewarded while the pious suffer. Choice. We have to make a choice based on faith.

If you've learned to rest in The Lord, then you'll be able to maintain your cool during the transition of shedding the physical body.

Once we're out a new set of lessons and work begins. You already know this part. We're being taught about the nature of the divine and how to be loving expressions of that without the horror. We're being taught how to be effective creators ourselves. 

The lesson of the prison is to keep us OUT. It's not a vacation. We can be sent back in at any time too for bad behavior in the higher dimensions.

Don't worry we're not totally on the bottom. There are lower dimensions where it's just a weird fog of confusion and fear.

This is my rationale anyways and hey I'll be the first to admit I got duped by The Archons into spreading more New Age BS. 

At the very least, it's something to consider and discuss right?--gotta pass the time in a jail somehow.
#38
(08-14-2025, 11:10 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I hope it's not real.   Imagine being punished in this life for something you did in a past life, but that you don't even remember doing.   Doesn't make any sense.   There is nothing to be learned from that.   Useless suffering.

That's the particularly problematic part. 

If life is about experience, wiping them out and starting again, is simply counterproductive, or so it would seem.

How punishment can be administered without knowing why, is also problematic at best, and defeats the purpose.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#39
(08-14-2025, 11:14 AM)AlroyFarms Wrote: I believe it's because of just how horrid a collective memory of multiple lifetimes can be. A single lifetime is already tough enough to deal with in this prison.

I'll try to share one of my experiences when I asked to see why I'm in this prison. I demanded that proof. 

Nature is brutal. It's a dimension of life feeding on life and that's just the animal kingdom. Human beings wantonly do despicable acts and violence to each other. Do you really want to remember every killing, raping, torture? Whether something done to you or something that you've done to others? (I can't speak for every person's reason for being here, but me personally yes, I'm here for a good reason. I'm serving a sentence.) 

What about things like losing friends, family, children. Losing loved ones can take a lifetime of work to cope with. 

You're right, this prison sucks. It's filled with a lot of pain and suffering. 

When I began to go down that dark hallway I had to stop almost immediately. You feel it all at once. Life flashing before your eyes. Do you really want to hold onto several lifetimes of pain instead of just the current one?

I too asked how progression works if we can't remember. It's just intrinsically built into the current bodily incarnation. We're not rapists and murderers right now, are we? No. We have an unexplainable feeling of right and wrong, that moral compass. Just somehow we know. We're able to empathize with others and see the life in each other and learn to respect that now.

We get the updates while being spared the memories. The reason is to learn how to continue being a model prisoner. We get out on good behavior. And it's all a choice--this is why we can't see every karmic effect, otherwise it would be a forced response instead of a choice.

Now this is the part I find to be total BS. Often we are shown the example that the worst behaviors are rewarded while the pious suffer. Choice. We have to make a choice based on faith.

If you've learned to rest in The Lord, then you'll be able to maintain your cool during the transition of shedding the physical body.

Once we're out a new set of lessons and work begins. You already know this part. We're being taught about the nature of the divine and how to be loving expressions of that without the horror. We're being taught how to be effective creators ourselves. 

The lesson of the prison is to keep us OUT. It's not a vacation. We can be sent back in at any time too for bad behavior in the higher dimensions.

Don't worry we're not totally on the bottom. There are lower dimensions where it's just a weird fog of confusion and fear.

This is my rationale anyways and hey I'll be the first to admit I got duped by The Archons into spreading more New Age BS. 

At the very least, it's something to consider and discuss right?--gotta pass the time in a jail somehow.

It would seem that you have accepted the prison sentence. I honestly believe that the majority of us are here because we didn't conform to their ideals. We did nothing wrong. We simply had a different way of thinking.

So you think they wipe our memories to spare us the pain of our past transgressions? This would presume that they have some type of compassion for us. I do not believe this to be the case whatsoever. 

The beings that trapped us here are not benevolent. They are in fact the definition of malfeasance. You should look in to what remote viewers have seen about the death process. There is nothing kind about it at all. After the tunnel of light, comes a hell all of its own. What's crazy is, almost every remote viewer around the world, from different organizations, have all seen the same thing: A tunnel of light, warm and fuzzy feeling, dead loved ones that meet you to take you to 'heaven'. Once you're through the tunnel, hell begins with a life review telling you everything you did wrong (we never do anything right, BTW). Then a trip to the memory wipe machine. Followed by implants of false memories and an 'important mission' scheduled for your next life.

Check these guys out: https://www.farsightprime.com
#40
(08-14-2025, 11:44 AM)KKLoco Wrote: It would seem that you have accepted the prison sentence.

Well I can't exactly commute my time here can I  Tongue

For real though I'll look into that remote viewing stuff. It's not a rabbit hole I've ever been down so thanks for that lead. This is why we talk, right?

Have a good one out there fellow inmate



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