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(09-03-2025, 09:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Oh, please, classic deflection 101 as per usual.
"Where were they for 30 years?" how about in fear, traumatised, and silenced by some very powerful people?
And suggesting survivors had a duty to prevent abuse is disgusting victim-blaming, well done, at least you are consistent as ever.
"Why no names?" stab in the dark, because naming predators isn't as simple as pointing fingers.
It's legally risky and terrifying for a start.
And telling people to subscribe to podcasts for "truth" is just a weak attempt to gaslight and dismiss decades of documented abuse.
And calling it a "carnival."
Yuck, all you're doing is belittling the survivors while ignoring systemic abuse.
Pathetic really.
And exactly the kind of smokescreen rhetoric meant to protect the guilty and shame the victims.
The victim shaming and blaming really makes you wonder about some people
If you know what I mean
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09-03-2025, 11:10 AM
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(09-03-2025, 10:09 AM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Just dingleberries and matted fur here
Well, thats some mighty peculiar peccadillos...
Trump put himself in this position by thinking he could finagle a release of evidence behind the judicially protected NDAs he should have known he could not.
THE RELEASE of evidence without knowing what is new and what isn't makes it all a convoluted mess
The Congressional effort is going after the DOJ... this will be a long effort, even if they get a full release, nobody will believe it
Listen to the videos, it's all skeevy AF.... I trust no one involved here...
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But change is
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09-03-2025, 11:22 AM
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(09-03-2025, 10:49 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The victim shaming and blaming really makes you wonder about some people
If you know what I mean
Thanks for confirming you didn’t watch that circus show of “survivors” either.
Those women there with Gloria Allred are no longer victims.
They are now grifters and virtue signaling attention whores.
“Please subscribe to my podcast….”
If you’re a victim and don’t wish others to be victims, you speak up about it.
What you don’t do is…
Politicize this.
Use it to make even money.
Pretend like you care about other women.
If there was a pedo cabal of blackmailers and the like, then thousands more women have been abused since you’ve been counting your payout money and staying silent.
If it was truly about abused kids, either that’s a lie or those victims are the worst kind of opportunistic enablers by not naming names.
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During Trump's 1st term
When we waited day after day for document release
It was liberals and Democrats who tried to intimidate and shame anyone who wanted the truth
They were scared that their favorite politicians might be implicated in disturbing crimes
Since Trump turned 180, his followers are doing the same
Now they're the ones doing the intimidating and shaming of anyone wanting the truth
They've turned into Democrats
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(09-03-2025, 11:22 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Thanks for confirming you didn’t watch that circus show of “survivors” either.
Those women there with Gloria Allred are no longer victims.
They are now grifters and virtue signaling attention whores.
“Please subscribe to my podcast….”
If you’re a victim and don’t wish others to be victims, you speak up about it.
What you don’t do is…
Politicize this.
Use it to make even money.
Pretend like you care about other women.
If there was a pedo cabal of blackmailers and the like, then thousands more women have been abused since you’ve been counting your payout money and staying silent.
If it was truly about abused kids, either that’s a lie or those victims are the worst kind of opportunistic enablers by not naming names.
You defended Weinstein
Nuff said
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09-03-2025, 11:58 AM
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(09-03-2025, 11:47 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: During Trump's 1st term
When we waited day after day for document release
It was liberals and Democrats who tried to intimidate and shame anyone who wanted the truth
They were scared that their favorite politicians might be implicated in disturbing crimes
Since Trump turned 180, his followers are doing the same
Now they're the ones doing the intimidating and shaming of anyone wanting the truth
They've turned into Democrats
Both political parties are being held in the spotlight for protecting their rich and powerful campaign donors. They only look after their own interests and turn a blind eye to child trafficking/rape by the filthy and corrupt elitists and those than enable them.
"The only journey is the one within."
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09-03-2025, 12:24 PM
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He has point... and other quotes from theblogosphere
Quote:Why are they not naming the names now that they literally have everyone watching? They know who is involved. They know the players. They’re not waiting for the authorities or politicians anymore. Why are they not naming names?
UGH ugh
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Most of them settled in court already This entire production smacks of
@dnc
propaganda
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Maybe they took the payout. They were payed to keep their mouth shut and they want the government to spill the beans as a work around.
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09-03-2025, 02:12 PM
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(09-03-2025, 12:24 PM)putnam6 Wrote: He has point... and other quotes from theblogosphere
“Why are they not naming the names now that they literally have everyone watching? They know who is involved. They know the players. They’re not waiting for the authorities or politicians anymore. Why are they not naming names?”
Very good questions that a certain side doesn’t want to answer.
If they actually had names they could have gone to the FBI, or to any bonafide investigative journalist.
It was always about money.
You can’t cry victim as you hold your hand out for money.
The real victims know who abused them and named names.
This new found batch of “victims” are just disgusting opportunists looking for more attention and money.
If Kamala had won, you would have only heard crickets.
33,295 pages.
How many did the democrats release? LoL
Say what you want but you can’t deny that’s a ton of disclosure.
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FWIW
https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1963305300062020007
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claiming President Trump has been secretly helping to take down Jeffrey Epstein since 2009.
He says Trump supplied investigators with critical information that advanced their case.
He adds that Trump was never a suspect and now wants him to release everything.
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09-03-2025, 03:32 PM
This post was last modified: 09-03-2025, 03:33 PM by cherokeetroy. 
(09-03-2025, 02:12 PM)Vermilion Wrote: “Why are they not naming the names now that they literally have everyone watching? They know who is involved. They know the players. They’re not waiting for the authorities or politicians anymore. Why are they not naming names?”
Very good questions that a certain side doesn’t want to answer.
If they actually had names they could have gone to the FBI, or to any bonafide investigative journalist.
It was always about money.
You can’t cry victim as you hold your hand out for money.
The real victims know who abused them and named names.
This new found batch of “victims” are just disgusting opportunists looking for more attention and money.
If Kamala had won, you would have only heard crickets.
33,295 pages.
How many did the democrats release? LoL
Say what you want but you can’t deny that’s a ton of disclosure.
If anyone politized the Epstein issue, it was Trump’s camp when
his son,
his FBI director,
his Deputy director,
his AG
all cried in unison for the "release of the fles"
Then Trump gave the green light
The release turned out to be a sham
Then promises of more release
Then an abrupt "case closed"
Followed by TACO,
Ghislaine Maxwell relocated
and everyone was told to STFU
I'm trying to imagine Biden pulling the exact same stunt knowing conservatives would have an absolute field day
But now we've got MAGA saying there's nothing strange, suspicious, disreputable or underhanded going on right before our very eyes
Most of the 33,000 released pages are already in the public domain
and now the WH is threatening congress members against signing Massie's petition calling it a "Hostile Act"
Quit pretending Trump is being transparent
He's obstructing
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