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(10-28-2025, 06:42 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Sadly, but not surprisingly, the first sentence you posted is the only one that is 100% accurate....
Some states, or localities, will give you assistance to buy a house. But, if you can't afford it, that won't last long until you get evicted or foreclosed on.
Notice how I was using the word "I", but then again I have more common sense than someone who would say "Man, I can't afford to have this child, so I am going to have it anyway and make it everyone else's problem to pay for me to not raise this child". My wife and I have wanted a child, but know we can't afford one. So, rather than have one and not be able to afford to properly take care of it, or make everyone else pay for it through snap or welfare, we don't have one until we can afford it. There will be those that will always make it happen without assistance from anyone else, and I applaud those people. I know several and they are the real deal.
The mindset you, and plenty of other people in this country have, is why we have so many people that rely on welfare, SNAP, food stamps, etc. They would rather make everyone else pay for their way of life because they are too lazy to get a job or have just been raised on that mindset of "everyone else will provide for you, don't worry about anything". Are all people on those programs the lazy POS losers that we are talking about in this thread, no.
This thread is not about "bashing minorities who are the culprits and abusers of animals", but I'm not surprised you view it that way. This thread is showing how anyone on the left will make anything about racism if they feel it will get them something or gain them some sort of "sway" with the minority population.
But as in carding and stopping young black men driving in cars and incarcerating more black people than white people, it is about systemic racism. It rears it's ugly head everywhere. Denying the truth doesn't change the reality.
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10-28-2025, 08:44 AM
This post was last modified: 10-28-2025, 08:45 AM by quintessentone. 
(10-28-2025, 07:36 AM)Ray1990 Wrote: The Communists saw dog ownership as decadence basically. Kill the dogs, break the bourgeoisie... Not that peasants and farmers are all that rich other than in culture.
Capitalists think the poor shouldn't have dogs? So put them down? Going by this thread people have different opinions of what looking after an animal entails. I would say it includes vet visits and medical bills, you can be prosecuted for not getting your pets the treatment they'd need in the UK and the same goes for livestock too.
The problem with poor people having pets, especially cats and dogs is the fact they're hardly ever neutered. Cat's can devastate ecologies and packs of wild dogs need culling, one way or another your taxes will end up paying for other people's fuck ups. Apparently communism did a number on Romanian farmers too (probably everywhere tbh) where 1000s of dogs were abandoned as they forced whole communities into those tenament monstrosities.
Idk. It's almost like the same conclusions are met by both sides of the fence here. People who don't need dogs and can ill afford them should not have them. I'd personally say nobody should ever have the right to tell you if you can have pets or kids barring obvious reasons like child abuse or animal abuse. I'd go one further and say government should probably have a hand in the welfare of animals and children since when it goes wrong it ultimately becomes a problem government and society will be forced to manage.
That or just kill all the poorly raised animals and children, the owners too. Joking of course.
In my neighborhood there are neutering programs for the community costing a fraction of what a vet would charge as well as rehoming/fostering programs if you absolutely can't help the animal. There are people out there with the means and that have a heart and may take your pet and handle their healthcare.
There are ways to get antibiotics from your doctor to use on pets, I do it all the time. When I visit my doctor with congestion in the chest, I ask for an antibiotic prescription 'just in case' it turns into something else and I don't want to make a second visit. I always get the prescription, fill it and the doctor never knows. I have saved many lives doing this. Start a gofundme page, ask friends and family to help, find a vet with a heart that will let you pay in installments, etc.
You and I agree on this issue and it's nice to see members with a clarity of reality here chime in. Anyway, I had to chime in between packing for my trip to thank you for your post.
As for the main underlying topic of this thread, it's about systemic racism taken back to the minorities as needing extra enforcement of animal welfare without good reason, except for poverty, which
Enforcement should be looking more at young, poor men mostly in Western U.S.
"Cruelty to animals is associated with elevated rates observed in young, poor, men with family histories of antisocial behavior and personal histories of conduct disorder in childhood, and antisocial, obsessive-compulsive and histrionic personality disorders, and pathological gambling in adulthood. Given these associations, and the widespread ownership of pets and animals, effective screening of children, adolescents and adults for animal cruelty and appropriate mental health interventions should be deployed."
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(10-28-2025, 08:28 AM)quintessentone Wrote: But as in carding and stopping young black men driving in cars and incarcerating more black people than white people, it is about systemic racism. It rears it's ugly head everywhere. Denying the truth doesn't change the reality.
Except that's not what we are talking about, and is not what is happening in this thread......but you already know that
Does racism still exist in this country, sure, but that is not an excuse to say anything that is said or done to a minority group is racism. That would be like someone saying every black man is a criminal, it is just factually false.
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I love how certain political nutjobs (many who think they are sane) make it easy to know which drivel to ignore and so save my precious time on.
Anything focussing on using the words or concepts:
"Inclusion
Diversity
Equity
Marginalised
Racism
Institutionalised
Economic Class"
in a serious matter, can be safely scrolled/clicked/paged past without worrying I am missing some useful information.
Also not shocked to see a large part of this 'research' was done by Denver University. lol
I do have to thank the gods for this political group's obsession with broadcasting their virtue, it helps the rest of us avoid them.
Fricking dogs for crying out loud. lol
Treat all beings with compassion , the end.
No need to ask Fido his preferred pronouns and judge his owner based on their skin colour., and certainly not to discriminate against an innocent animal because of who owns it.
roflmao
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11-03-2025, 10:52 PM
This post was last modified: 11-03-2025, 10:55 PM by Wild Bill. 
It is not just the useless eater humans who ARE getting culled , now it's the pets who are the target of the mega corparations , who make chocolate and pet food and own ALL the vets practises.
https://www.mars.com/our-brands
Why stop at robbing people with medicine after you make them sick with all the additives in the food and profit biggly from it , now do the pets because most humans love their pets like family and would do anything for them especially when they are ill .
I noticed in the summer a lot of dogs in my area were ill with diarea, all were on the same brands of food and biscuits? , And remember Mars the god of war owns all the pet food brands and the vets / and profits greatly at both ends .
Now when you go near a vetinary practice expect to pay big money instantly no more pay you up at the end of the week or month routine .
My sister was asked to pay $6k up front when her young dog was diagnosed with cancer before the vet would even attempt any treatment, and I have dropped easily 2k on my old mutt recently getting blood tests and prescriptions for his bad heart etc .
Dogs share about 70 % of human DNA and can take a lot of medication that humans use and get a lot of ailments that humans get including dementia which my old dog has just like me .
Do NOT feed them beef dog food !
I was looking at slides from a Altzimer, Parkinsons/Dementia /Cjd ( mad cow ) cases and the neurology professor could not tell which was which or could AI under autopsy screening FYI and I remembered seeing about 10+ years ago a photo online which horrified me of big 5 foot plus round metal bins of euthanised pets somewhere in America and they were going for Pet food , including the rfid chips and collars they were wearing , and what started the mad cow CJD ,Feeding cows to cows !!! .
Luckily in the UK we have the PDSA ( people's dispensary sick animals ) charity which helps low income people with their pets bills if they are stuck .
luckily I know the my local vets family and got a decent discount and can manage on my own but have heard horror stories on the radio a few weeks ago about what people were paying across the country for vets bills , and when I was at the counter in my local vets practice paying my bill I looked down at the till roll and saw what others that day had payed wow .
remember you will own nothing and be happy // That includes pets BTW those useless little eaters are for the chop as well it seems .
trust nobody ?
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11-20-2025, 04:32 PM
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(11-03-2025, 10:52 PM)Wild Bill Wrote: It is not just the useless eater humans who ARE getting culled , now it's the pets who are the target of the mega corparations , who make chocolate and pet food and own ALL the vets practises.
https://www.mars.com/our-brands
Why stop at robbing people with medicine after you make them sick with all the additives in the food and profit biggly from it , now do the pets because most humans love their pets like family and would do anything for them especially when they are ill .
I noticed in the summer a lot of dogs in my area were ill with diarea, all were on the same brands of food and biscuits? , And remember Mars the god of war owns all the pet food brands and the vets / and profits greatly at both ends .
Now when you go near a vetinary practice expect to pay big money instantly no more pay you up at the end of the week or month routine .
My sister was asked to pay $6k up front when her young dog was diagnosed with cancer before the vet would even attempt any treatment, and I have dropped easily 2k on my old mutt recently getting blood tests and prescriptions for his bad heart etc .
Dogs share about 70 % of human DNA and can take a lot of medication that humans use and get a lot of ailments that humans get including dementia which my old dog has just like me .
Do NOT feed them beef dog food !
I was looking at slides from a Altzimer, Parkinsons/Dementia /Cjd ( mad cow ) cases and the neurology professor could not tell which was which or could AI under autopsy screening FYI and I remembered seeing about 10+ years ago a photo online which horrified me of big 5 foot plus round metal bins of euthanised pets somewhere in America and they were going for Pet food , including the rfid chips and collars they were wearing , and what started the mad cow CJD ,Feeding cows to cows !!! .
Luckily in the UK we have the PDSA ( people's dispensary sick animals ) charity which helps low income people with their pets bills if they are stuck .
luckily I know the my local vets family and got a decent discount and can manage on my own but have heard horror stories on the radio a few weeks ago about what people were paying across the country for vets bills , and when I was at the counter in my local vets practice paying my bill I looked down at the till roll and saw what others that day had payed wow .
remember you will own nothing and be happy // That includes pets BTW those useless little eaters are for the chop as well it seems .
trust nobody ?
They will ask for everything up front then when you don't have it they will refer you to their 3rd party finance company and you end up financing it spending even more in interest which I bet they get a kick back on.
I thankfully found an amazing vet in town who has gone out of her way to work with me on some things. She also owns her practice so no mega corp.
After searching for a food our frenchie could eat without messing up his very sensitive digestive system she sent me home with some prescription diet Science Hill that has worked wonders...finally don't have to wipe shitty dog butt everytime he poops...very rare now.
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(11-20-2025, 05:30 PM)RickyD Wrote: They will ask for everything up front then when you don't have it they will refer you to their 3rd party finance company and you end up financing it spending even more in interest which I bet they get a kick back on.
I thankfully found an amazing vet in town who has gone out of her way to work with me on some things. She also owns her practice so no mega corp.
After searching for a food our frenchie could eat without messing up his very sensitive digestive system she sent me home with some prescription diet Science Hill that has worked wonders...finally don't have to wipe shitty dog butt everytime he poops...very rare now.
We are lucky to find good honest animal doctors as I have come across horror stories of what some people are being charged in the vets office .
My sister had to hand over £4.5k before the vet would look at the cancer in her young dog and a local guy was charged about £ 1k to get a jack Russel put to sleep .
My old dog is on his last legs if I were to call the vet to uthnise out of hours and for a large dog 25 kg I will be looking at £ 1200 plus and a home burial , most want you to cremate them now at another 350 plus .
expensive when they get old and need work done
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