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The fact that people are still being concerned about covid spreading when it is still just a novel cold virus, and like all cold viruses in the past, can sometimes cause pneumonia and death, boggles my mind. The psyop really stuck in a lot of people.
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(03-21-2025, 10:27 AM)sahgwa Wrote: The fact that people are still being concerned about covid spreading...
It is not covid that is the problem. It is the dumb and complicate Government policy of no jab, no pay that is destroying the potential of the next generation.
If someone wants to sign up for some genetic therapy, whatever, their call. Forcing such things on the population is going to live on in the history books with other past dumb stuff.
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03-21-2025, 03:52 PM
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(03-21-2025, 09:17 AM)Kwaka Wrote: You come across as a well educated guy. When it comes to street smarts, still dumb as rocks.
I have never noted streets, avenues, roads, ways, or similar, for their intelligence or academic achievement but they may be more clever than rocks.
Quote:I know it is tough. First time I heard about 9/11 being an inside job, thought they where whacked as well. Then I saw the footage of WTC7 fall. Takes months to organize something like like.
I get how you do not want to confront the reality of the situation, messed me up for a few days when I did. Now the JFK and LBJ stuff, just one of many examples on how human nature really works.
I give you one example of many doctors that have put their career on the line with the data they have seen. So just ridicule, attack the source and pretend it does not exist. I get it, got to laugh at the illumanaughty as well. For your next lesson if reality does matter, the area of psyops is recommended, Brought to you by Pfizer.
I don;t know if you are just being dumb or complaisant. The test of time is bigger than us. It is a nice thought to think you are right, I did like that place too. I ain't putting any money on it.
As time goes on, the noise of the plandemecists is becoming less and less strident, as none of the 'doom-porn/world government/cull of humanity' scenarios have come to pass.
One conspiracy theory is not evidenced by another. Each CT must stand on its own specific evidence.
The conclusion that they are all linked by a mysterious 'them' is provably a nonsense. In the cases where a CT has been borne out by evidence, the perpetrators have historically been provably un-linked.
Many of the alleged string-pullers of historical CT's, have since died, with no hard evidence that they did any such crimes as upheld in CT's, and definitely they have not historically achieved their alleged aims.
Take for instance John D Rockefeller. He made lots of money, probably the richest American of all time, but now the assets have been split up among many separate companies, about 150 relatives, and even State and Federal ownership. The wealth, and political influence is gone, the guy is dead, but the conspiracy theories based upon them, still hang around in the conspirosphere, looking today like sad delusions.
And, as for building 7, have you asked yourself about motive? What could someone have gained that was not achieved by the destruction of the towers? But the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) engineering report was that burning debris rained down on building 7, breaking windows, weakening supports, and starting a fire that burned for seven hours prior to its collapse, with not a fireman in sight to put it out. The heat from the uncontrolled fire caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, causing a key structural column to fail, and this initiating the collapse of the entire building. They also said that they "found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event."
Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster (NIST NCSTAR 1A)
Very few doctors have put their jobs on the line over the data they have seen. The majority of doctors (hundreds of thousands of times the numbers of dissenters) have upheld the official narrative (It is interesting that high numbers of the dissenting doctors were osteopaths, with no expertise in virology, epidemiology or infectious disease).
Sometimes, stuff just happens that we can't anticipate because the real world is incredibly complex. To ascribe vast interconnected complex conspiracies to people who trip, and fall, and bump into each other, and break things by accident, and can't even organize themselves, and who forget where they left their keys, is a bit silly.
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I am waiting for the Deagel population forecast to come true. What was it, 80% of the world's population totally gone this year?
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This isn't shocking to us who already know this - it is sad. Â
SHOCKING Big Pharma Exposé! Interview w/ Sharyl Attkisson
If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter - George Washington
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(03-21-2025, 03:52 PM)chr0naut Wrote: NIST
Complaisant. That crap don't fly in these parts of the internet. You have enough brain cells to work that out.
I do like your Avatar logo, 2001 A Space Odyssey. You know how that movie ends trying to reason with an AI if you want to live. I prefer my AI with hard solid grounding in reality if I am to have half a chance.
Every culture is different with its good and bad people. As for how JFK, 9/11 and Covid are entangled. JFK set the tone for every President since, the CIA won that round. Epstein is one of it's branches since on the blackmail and human traffic side. Trump's EO 13773 helped there. See how Pam Bondi goes?
In how the scale of 9/11 went the way it did in the public sphere, this blackmail is entrenched deep. Lots of ways it can be done. As those at the reins got away with pushing their war, what is to stop the culture of death and destruction taking it next level?
When Cheating Becomes a Way of Life: A Survival Guide
To warp this mega conspiracy in a nice little bow, check out the last of Stanley Kubrick's work, Eyes Wide Shut for where some of these roads do go.
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03-22-2025, 01:35 PM
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(03-22-2025, 09:55 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Complaisant. That crap don't fly in these parts of the internet. You have enough brain cells to work that out.
I do like your Avatar logo, 2001 A Space Odyssey. You know how that movie ends trying to reason with an AI if you want to live. I prefer my AI with hard solid grounding in reality if I am to have half a chance.
No AI can have a grounding in reality. The same may be true for other intelligences also. They are dependent on the dataset that they are presented with. Currently the largest AI training datasets are from the Internet or media, with social media postings forming a big part of the data, so it is probably significantly more than 50% fiction, no matter how hard the programmers try and fact-check the data, the job is beyond human - or machine capability.
The best we can do is to maintain a critical view and to test and verify everything presented to us as 'factual'. If you accept things at face value without critical and rational analysis, you will be deceived very easily. If things don't make sense, if there are vast inconsistencies in a narrative, then it is probably fiction.
Think of motive, whether the alleged aims could be achieved that way, and their likelihood of failure, verify the names, locations, and credentials of those involved. The complexity of things is also a consideration - Ockham's Razor is that the simplest of solutions is most probably the correct and most likely one.
Unfortunately, many people also now have a shaky concept of reality, taking what they encounter online, or on their TV screens as being a factual representation, and they apply no critical evaluation of any of it.
Quote:Every culture is different with its good and bad people. As for how JFK, 9/11 and Covid are entangled. JFK set the tone for every President since, the CIA won that round. Epstein is one of it's branches since on the blackmail and human traffic side. Trump's EO 13773 helped there. See how Pam Bondi goes?
Not too many years ago, conspiracy theorists were seen as kooks, advertising and media were not believed to be 100% factual, and movies were considered as largely fiction (even ones that purported to tell 'historical' stories).
There of course, were encyclopaedias, technical manuals, academic and scientific institutions and so forth that strove hard to ensure that what they presented was factual. They did so by treating information cynically, and testing and proving accuracy with multiple measurements, authoritative sources, multiplicity of sources, direct observation and repeatability in test and experimentation.
Since about 2015, the situation has turned around and everything is doubted (except, bizarrely, social media and conspiracy theories, where it is regarded as impossible that they could be made-up, unverified and unverifiable stories,  ).
The situation is so bad now that the US has elected a criminal, on the basis of belief in what are clearly untruths, who is right now in the process of purging the USA of Americans, based upon what countries they may have originally migrated from (and remember, nearly 100% of the population of the USA migrated there within the last 280 years, they aren't 'natives' by any means, so no-one is really safe from the 'felon in chief' and what he may potentially believe, in future). How many US citizens will die, or be negatively impacted as a consequence of such sociocide?
Quote:In how the scale of 9/11 went the way it did in the public sphere, this blackmail is entrenched deep. Lots of ways it can be done. As those at the reins got away with pushing their war, what is to stop the culture of death and destruction taking it next level?
When Cheating Becomes a Way of Life: A Survival Guide
To warp this mega conspiracy in a nice little bow, check out the last of Stanley Kubrick's work, Eyes Wide Shut for where some of these roads do go.
'Eyes wide shut', while it made various emotional appeals, was totally fiction. It does not stand as proof, or even vague evidence of any conspiracy theory. And, while the film created a strong sense of foreboding, the story lacked a motive for anyone to do any of the elaborate and largely pointless cosplay.
I'm sorry, but you have not convinced me of any of the alleged links between, or validity of, the various conspiracy theories, that you have mentioned.
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03-22-2025, 08:26 PM
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(03-22-2025, 01:35 PM)chr0naut Wrote: you have not convinced me
I do not consent to any responsibility in trying to convince you. How you comprehend and interact in this world is your prerogative.
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03-23-2025, 06:50 PM
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(03-23-2025, 10:37 AM)Kwaka Wrote: To get this thread back on track, Charles Rixey provides his evidence:
My video testimony for the Slovakian inquiry into the origin of the pandemic
During the pandemic, I was tested at the start of every work day for antibodies to SARS-CoV-2.
RAT tests were cheap (free for me) and readily available. It was a requirement of my employment in an 'essential' role which could not shut-down or lock-down. Even after lock-downs were lifted, I was still tested every day, for quite some time afterwards. Perhaps it was the same for you?
For workers in BSL-4 labs, where such testing is mandatory every day (and not just during lock-down) none of the workers at WIV during or immediately after the pandemic carried antibodies to the virus, which indicates that they had never previously caught COVID-19.
And with that one fact, a major component of the lab-leak theory, is demolished.
Definitely Danielle Anderson, who had moved on to Singapore after working at the WIV in 2019, had never previously had COVID-19 when tested later in Singapore labs.
Additionally, the identified 'patient zero' in Wuhan lived hours away from the WIV, and had no links via which infection could have passed on to him from the WIV. A second body-blow to the lab-leak theory.
Additionally, the virus SARS-CoV-2 is fairly specific in what hosts it infects. So far, after years of research into a zoonotic source, we haven't identified a single one. It is, therefore, a specifically 'human' virus. The idea that it couldn't have arisen in humans, but must have come from another animal is disproven.
We have the same chemo-biology as other life, when you get down to basics. The belief that we are 'special' is contrary to the evidence, but is repeated as dogma in every discussion of the origins of the pandemic. If you can't see the woods for the trees and accept that, of course lab-leak and bioweapon fantasies seem reasonable.
Additionally, testing for the presence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus in samples and workers in the WIV showed the specific virus was not there (there were similar bat viruses, but not SARS-CoV-2). For the virus to leak from the lab, it would have had to be there. Since it wasn't there, the lab was not the source.
What has happened is that people who are ignorant and uneducated, but are politically powerful, have used the pandemic for their own political gain and one-upmanship. They have compiled vague and unattributed disinformation together with an audit of grant money source, and assumed that is evidence.
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