Apocalypse running. Only 2 events now.

[ntech]

Ok.  I have been watching this subject since 2001.   And after 24 years I've figured out quite a bit.   I'm thinking it's time to create a new thread on it and reference a old one or two from ATS which I can't seem to access anymore.   So here goes.

After looking everything over I came to the following conclusion valid as of today.  There's only 2 events left before the big one.  So here's the list.

1. The downfall of Iran.  From Daniel 8.
2.  The end of the days of the gentiles.  From Luke 21.

And it also seems there are 2 timers running from prophecy.  

1. The 2000 year curse from Hosea 6:2
2. The 80 year timer from Matthew 24:34 

So it appears that for there to be a 7 year Apocalypse the 2 events I mentioned above must occur this year and maybe into next year.   But if the 2000th anniversary of the death of Jesus Christ is important for the curse then  it seems all of it needs to complete by April of 2033.   So at the latest the 7 year agreement occurs in 2026.

So this is the start of the thread and I'll expound on the above later.

[ntech]

Oh, and what is the big one?  Well, that appears to be a major shakeup of the world where a number of nations collapse and new ones form.  But here are the various prophesies to look at.

Luke 21
24..and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Matthew 24
27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 6 
12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Daniel 8
7And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.
8Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
19And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
20The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
21And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
22Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
 


Daniel 11
3And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will.
4And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those.   

So.... Donald Trump for the first king???

[AlienGhost]

Interesting take here. I have some differing thoughts on this and am curious what you would think.

1) I personally do not see Trump as the first king.

His dominion being divided “to the four winds” means to the four corners of heaven. Thinking of this as North South East and West, it would more mean Adversity, Warmth, Change and Blessing.

I think we have Adversity, but I also do not think you can find a time in history without adversity.
Warmth … I do not see warmth. That would to me mean a safety or comfort in what is occurring, and not many have that.
Change … yep, this is happening but again, show me a time in history without change.
Blessing … where is the blessing? Would this not mean the Pope would bless the king and his dominion?

An argument could be made for this, but to me, I do not think it to be biblical.

2) what about tribulation? When would that 7 year period begin? Is this what you are saying must happen by 2026? If that were true, then let’s look at what must happen before that.

1 - the rapture. This is a no go, that most won’t talk about. This MUST happen before the anti-Christ arrives.

2 - after the rapture, the anti-Christ will unite the world under a one world government until tribulation, and God’s wrath.

So we have two years for those to happen?

[ntech]

Actually I see the two events happening in this year.  Then a major event where a number of nations collapse or otherwise disappear from the world stage. As far as the US fracturing 4 ways Daniel 8 explains it a bit more.   

21And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
22Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

23And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Then Daniel 11 explains that a number of nations form a confederacy that then goes to war with a confederacy in the middle east.  And the war lasts for most of the final 7 years.  As I see it Daniel 11 after verse 5 is a description of what happens on the earth while the trumpets, thunders, and bowls occur in heaven. 

And for the rapture I see it happening during the major event that happens with the red sky and the earthquakes.

And you put it together like this. 

Matthew 24
28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 7 after the 6th seal was opened.

9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

And there's the rapture prophecy. Could add Luke 21 there too.

[AlienGhost]

Actually I see the two events happening in this year.  Then a major event where a number of nations collapse or otherwise disappear from the world stage. As far as the US fracturing 4 ways Daniel 8 explains it a bit more.   

21And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
22Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

23And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Then Daniel 11 explains that a number of nations form a confederacy that then goes to war with a confederacy in the middle east.  And the war lasts for most of the final 7 years.  As I see it Daniel 11 after verse 5 is a description of what happens on the earth while the trumpets, thunders, and bowls occur in heaven. 

And for the rapture I see it happening during the major event that happens with the red sky and the earthquakes.

And you put it together like this. 

Matthew 24
28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 7 after the 6th seal was opened.

9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

And there's the rapture prophecy. Could add Luke 21 there too.

Thanks for the response! I lot for me to research and try to wrap my head around. I will give this some thought.

My hard sticking point would still be rapture. I do not view it as during an event, that could be justified as deaths. The rapture should be viewed by all as them missing out from being spared tribulation, not something that they should be happy surviving.

[Byrd]

The old "Rapture Ready" board was full of this (since 1999) and they even had a "Rapture countdown clock" and several times when the clock showed it was absolutely imminent.

Myself, I don't believe in these prophecies.

[ntech]

The old "Rapture Ready" board was full of this (since 1999) and they even had a "Rapture countdown clock" and several times when the clock showed it was absolutely imminent.

Myself, I don't believe in these prophecies.

And that's why I brought up this thread.   More than a few prophesies are complete.  And the 2 timers I found are saying it's getting up to that time where it's now or never. 

12 to 18 months to go.   Now I'm watching Iran and Israel go at it.  And wondering if Iran goes out with a bang or a whimper.

 Article on Iran

Iran's never been weaker.

[Ravenwatcher]

Every generation has claimed it was going to happen in their lifetime sure there will be war there will be pandemics a super volcano could blow an asteroid could smash into us or something we have not witnessed before these things all have happened in the past, but we are still here and If extraterrestrials have been visiting us since recorded time they want nothing to do with us. Sure, there will be a time the sun no longer shines but hopefully we have become smart enough to cooperate and find another planet to keep the human race going. 

there's nothing written that predicts the future, but we can always read into predictions made after the fact and try to tie them to current events all day long look and the ramblings of Nostradamus absolute gibberish, but people swear by them after the fact. I can predict the future driving over a bridge I know one day it will be rubble, but I can't tell you the exact date it will happen.

[ntech]

Every generation has claimed it was going to happen in their lifetime sure there will be war there will be pandemics a super volcano could blow an asteroid could smash into us or something we have not witnessed before these things all have happened in the past, but we are still here and If extraterrestrials have been visiting us since recorded time they want nothing to do with us. Sure, there will be a time the sun no longer shines but hopefully we have become smart enough to cooperate and find another planet to keep the human race going. 

there's nothing written that predicts the future, but we can always read into predictions made after the fact and try to tie them to current events all day long look and the ramblings of Nostradamus absolute gibberish, but people swear by them after the fact. I can predict the future driving over a bridge I know one day it will be rubble, but I can't tell you the exact date it will happen.

However the problem here is I'm reporting that there's a number of completed prophesies now.   And that the most important and definitive prophecy appears to be in striking distance.  The end of the days of the gentiles as outlined in Luke 21:24.   And it's stating once that happens the return of Jesus Christ is imminent. It's not just a prophecy it's a warning siren.   It's SHTF time.  That's the one thing previous generations didn't have.

So when you hear the initial reports of the Jews restarting their temple and the Waqf has been kicked off the temple mount then you will know the balloon is going up.However the problem here is I'm reporting that there's a number of completed prophesies now.   And that the most important and definitive prophecy appears to be in striking distance.  The end of the days of the gentiles as outlined in Luke 21:24.   And it's stating once that happens the return of Jesus Christ is imminent. It's not just a prophecy it's a warning siren.   It's SHTF time.  That's the one thing previous generations didn't have.

So when you hear the initial reports of the Jews restarting their temple and the Waqf has been kicked off the temple mount then you will know the balloon is going up.



hit play on the video when you see it happening.

[RadioKnecht]

I think you refer to this thread: April 7 2033 the start of the 1000 year reign...